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CaptainCox
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 Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 13:27 Post subject: Never played Fallout II |
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Is it worth it, or will I find to old "looking"?
I am a bit of a graphic whore, but you know that 
That aside, would the game play compensate?
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 13:35 Post subject: |
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try Fallout tactics
It's the best looking in the series it's still outdated but I think bearable
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 13:38 Post subject: |
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Cheers will check it out, if I can't stand the dated graphics, well...
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 13:39 Post subject: Re: Never played Fallout II |
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| CaptainCox wrote: | Is it worth it, or will I find to old "looking"?
I am a bit of a graphic whore, but you know that
That aside, would the game play compensate? |
Definately.
You can also try Tactics, but it's story, gameplay and above all, it's freedom factor is medicore at best compared to Fallout 1 & 2 IMO. |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 13:45 Post subject: |
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I've played Fallout Tactics alot more than i've played F1 and F2 (i've beaten them 2-3 times or something) mostly because it's easier on the eyes and it's just action, guts and carnage without too much 640x400 roleplaying 
But the first run you'll do of Fallout 2 is awesome in my opinion and not worth missing. It's not what Baldurs Gate 2 is to Baldurs Gate but not far off.
As for the graphics there are mods that allows you to play it in whatever resolution you want, it doesnt get a whole lot prettier but at least it's easier to see what's going on.
So in conclusion - Fallout Tactics if you just want some Fallout feeling and action which isnt too shabby to look at. Fallout 2 if you want the underlying story as well as the roleplaying elements. I would definitely run through F2 now with F3 coming up sooner or later.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 13:56 Post subject: |
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You should really try Fallout 2. Just get the resolution patch from http://www.nma-fallout.com/ and the latest unofficial Killap's patch.
Then it's way better the Tactics where almost no story is present.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 14:13 Post subject: |
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It's worth it. One of the best games ever made, yes it might not be as enjoyable today if you never played it before but at least give it a try.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 14:37 Post subject: |
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Ok getting F2 including the Restoration patch.
Would I need the official patches prior or?
1.0 and 1.1? or are there more?
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 14:52 Post subject: |
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i highly recommend it, i played it and regret never finished it, the pros are the following, graphics, game play, it has the best physics i ve seen in a race, the career mode is fantastic. the cons are repetitive maps.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 14:54 Post subject: |
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fuck sorry i was to sleepy when i saw this topic, i was referring to flat out 2. I ve never played fall out 2
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Veki
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 15:29 Post subject: |
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| CaptainCox wrote: | Ok getting F2 including the Restoration patch.
Would I need the official patches prior or?
1.0 and 1.1? or are there more? |
Try to get F2 US version if you can.
No, you don't need any official patches, just F2RP.
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42776
Also there is one fix that's not yet included in F2RP.
And a lot of info can be found here :
http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/F2RP_Technical_Info
EDIT :
@SuTuRa
Yes, you can use High resolution patch with F2RP.
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42386
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 15:37 Post subject: |
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Play it NOW you won't be disappointed.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 15:41 Post subject: |
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Ok got em all installed, but my mouse is sort a jerky in game. Its like I have to force it to go to the point I want, or rather like its not responding in 0.1 sec intervalls or something. Anyone had this prob?.
I know the game is old and I am using a G9 and crap.
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Ispep
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 15:46 Post subject: |
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Vista? Works fine in XP with a G7.
Save often, and in different slots. Did you enjoy the original Fallout?
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 15:52 Post subject: |
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Hm, at the mo the game is more or less unplayable, you have to really be patience to aim and click and stuff, not fun at all. Looking for a fix but.
"Did you enjoy the original Fallout?"
Never played any FO game if that was directed at me?
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 16:01 Post subject: |
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| CaptainCox wrote: | Hm, at the mo the game is more or less unplayable, you have to really be patience to aim and click and stuff, not fun at all. Looking for a fix but.
"Did you enjoy the original Fallout?"
Never played any FO game if that was directed at me? |
if all doesn't work go for titan quest
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 16:09 Post subject: |
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He he, yea played that, but never finished, also did not try Immortal Throne.
Hm...there is something that has to do with the mouse prob here
| Quote: | Workaround for sluggish mouse cursor
by MIkael Åkersund on Saturday February 9th 2008, 9:04
Install a small utility called "sfall" (slightly modified ddraw.dll), set the dll override for "ddraw" to "(native,builtin)" in 'winecfg' (Libraries tab-> add override) and the mouse cursor behaves nicely again. Other benefits of sfall includes custom resolutions, scale filters, tweaks for encounter rate, world map travel time, removal of the 13 year game time limit.
Note: Several of the player-made mods and patches already include the sfall ddraw.dll.
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But I wonder if this applies to my situation. It seem to be for "Wine"
| Quote: | | Wine is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API on top of X, OpenGL, and Unix. |
seems a bit ambitious or?
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 16:28 Post subject: |
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Never played it 2, big deal.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 16:30 Post subject: |
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Getting Tactics at the mo, maybe not as good as I and II but want to try it out at least. The mouse prob is really a pain, totally unplayable 
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 16:51 Post subject: |
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just keep in mind that the tactics gameplay has nothing in common with FO1+2 gameplay
Tactics = Jagged Alliance-like gameplay
FO1+2 = Baldurs Gate-like gameplay(ok FO is turnbased but you get what I mean)
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 16:56 Post subject: |
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Sure, I get it. Unless I find a fix for that mouse prob I will have to skip FO1/2 , it's simply not fun. I also tried with "vanilla" install, but its the same. Will dig a bit more but before giving up.
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Ispep
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 17:20 Post subject: |
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The only thing I can think is that you are using vista? It doesn't play nice the best of times. What about mouse drivers, logitech's or generic?
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 17:31 Post subject: |
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Checked all drivers etc, using Logitechs. The mouse works fine when moving at "normal" speed, sort of moving from one point to another over the screen, but as soon as you slow down (aiming at a specific point, like in the menu select buttons etc) the pointer start to step/lag, really annoying. i will try to deinstall the Logi drivers and see if it persists.
EDIT:Same thing with generic mouse river, annoying lag.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 17:51 Post subject: |
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Really odd, never heard of the sluggish mouse problem before, even with people who are running FO on vista.. Shame tho if you have to skip it, FO:T doesn't even begin to compare as a game :/.
Edit: Maybe an obvious question, but you did try without the reso patch, right? I've never played with that myself, and as I understand it it's still a relatively early version.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jul 2008 18:13 Post subject: |
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nope US version has it, Water airplane - after you free the pilot from that Chinese city and win the karate tournament he will joint you and point to a junk yard when there is a air plane wreck but there are two engines missing you need to find them (just like the car engine that was hidden in the radioactive city slums) , the heli you will get after you have in your team that talking robot , you know the quest you have to find the robot parts - this robot has in his memory banks a map place with a hidden heli base but you get it to fly it after your car will be stolen and have to get it back from the thief's base (abandoned fuel station) [there is even a new car engine for your car if you have high negotiation/charisma skills and can convince the thief's mechanic to install it] with the fuel tanks (this heli runs on fuel)
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