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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:34    Post subject:
dominae wrote:
Racism is usually a subtle thing, there are very few racists willing to admit that they truly are - the only racists that do admit that they are, are like the extremists of any belief.

What racism is ; is thinking a member of another race is worth less than any other (most commonly, your own). And it works out through the subtleties, like this:

"I think <they> shouldn't be leeching, they shouldn't be allowed to... "

First of all, I very much doubt that Jenni is referring to immigrants from eg. germany, sweden, france, or similar - she's really referring to "them", the ones with brown skin who speak or have an Indian, pakistan, or arab descent. But she doesn't outright say it, because that would be too damned obvious, no one wants to be accused of racism. "I'm not a racist, but..."

Also, it's in the semantics - for some reason a person with brown skin working in a country and paying taxes is a "leech", while someone (who is white) and preferably from that country is not.

Really, Jenni. You're a pro-colonialist, you are against immigration (especially from "brown people", you've stated previously that you think Indians are a filthy people (and India a filthy country). How much more obvious do you need to be before you live up to your own definition of being a racist, short of wearing an SS-uniform and a swastika?


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:38    Post subject:
How many times it's have I said thay it's not down to race. Just ask Deelix if I've been racist against him, I know what the answer will be already. It's simply economics.
As for my husband, well yeah he works in another country. He pays his taxes there though.
If he comes into Europe more than a couple of weeks a year he has to pay an unearthly amount. That is a disgrace.

I have no problem people coming here. If they pay their taxes and respect the country. When people like Under come here pay nothing towards their education then insult the country and the people of the UK, then you can be sure as hell I get annoyed. As I said, if he doesn't like it then he can leave. He won't be missed.

Cheese's post was insulting and derogatory and was ban worthy. It stays.
Someone reported Serben's post which Rinze left to me. I could have edited his post or warned him. I could have banned him. But I believe everyone should have their views expressed if they're not insulting.
My "mod powers" are not up for discussion Shadow. As I previously said, Rinze has seen the thread and has said nothing to me.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:38    Post subject:
NuclearShadow wrote:
Its a shame that racism exists even today. Someday all humans will be of mixed race of every combination and all have the same color of skin and probably a universal language... and I bet they will still make up reasons to hate each other Sad

Anyways...

Serben wrote:
Ha, you sure got her number! I bet she'll delete this thread now and then scurry away with her tail between her legs and hope everyone forgets this thread ever existed. And i agree with Under. She definitely needs a 2 day temp ban. Give her a taste of her own medicine.


No a complete loss of mod powers needs to take place. A mod that believes that he/she is above the rules while banning people for bogus reasons and then turning around and basically doing the same action is unacceptable. I do not believe she should be temp banned for her comment as she has a right to her own opinion no matter how unpopular. However I do believe she deserves to be stripped of mod powers and receive a equal length temp ban she unjustly given.



Hell yeah, i agree. But my poll about it got closed Crying or Very sad However, before it did, about 24 people voted on it, and most of them voted for her losing her powers. So hopefully it will finally happen.


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:41    Post subject:
People will always vote to get a mod removed. Besides we only have your word on that don't we.
No more discussion of my mod status on the forums. You don't question any other mod decisions on here and I believe that my position is only in question because I'm indeed female and some men can't take having a woman in a higher position. Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:41    Post subject:
jenni why not just keep your opinions to yourself in future, you are clearly offending many of us here but continue to push on with more and more comments about 'immigrants'. And no your mod status is in question because of the very offensive comments you have made in this thread noone could give a shit if you are female or not it has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:42    Post subject:
Why not. I'm voicing my opinion on something I feel very strongly about.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:43    Post subject:
beacuse your comments are offensive to me, serben and many others. pfiemel also voiced his opinions, you found it offensive, he got banned.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:45    Post subject:


Poor OP! I bet this shit-storm is making him have second thoughts about the whole emigrating thing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:46    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
People will always vote to get a mod removed. Besides we only have your word on that don't we.
No more discussion of my mod status on the forums. You don't question any other mod decisions on here and I believe that my position is only in question because I'm indeed female and some men can't take having a woman in a higher position. Smile


:S Thats gotta be one of the most ridicolous things I've ever read on this forum :S


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:47    Post subject:
Because you don't like my views on immigration. Well tough!
I have strong views on it because it's something that affects me personally.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:48    Post subject:
pfiemel thinks uk women are ugly, so tough! it affects him personally he finds it hard to get a good date. Its one rule for you and different rules for others!
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:52    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
You don't question any other mod decisions on here and I believe that my position is only in question because I'm indeed female and some men can't take having a woman in a higher position. Smile


That's a nice way to deflect/ignore even valid criticism. And it's not as if other mods haven't had their neutrality called into question. Saint used to have a bunch of threads/people trashing him.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:52    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
People will always vote to get a mod removed. Besides we only have your word on that don't we.
No more discussion of my mod status on the forums. You don't question any other mod decisions on here and I believe that my position is only in question because I'm indeed female and some men can't take having a woman in a higher position. Smile



Bullshit. I'm a socialist through and through, so i support the feminist movement all the way (except the extreme militant ones). There's nothing i hate more than macho wannabe jocks who brag about all the women they've fucked and who think they're SO fucking great just because they can bench 200kg and who think women belong in the kitchen.


So you being a woman has fuck all to do with why i have a problem with you. My problem with you is that you are arrogant, offensive, and biased. You're a bigot, who has claimed among other things that Indians are filthy and that immigrants are leeches (except your husband), and you consistently ban people based on your own personal beliefs/opinions instead of whether or not they break the rules, and you're extremely arrogant. The post i quoted above is ample proof of that. You seriously think that it's us who simply can't stand that you're a woman with power. You can't concieve of the fact that it's your personality and attitude that offends us.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:55    Post subject:
Serben wrote:
There's nothing i hate more than macho wannabe jocks who brag about all the women they've fucked and who think they're SO fucking great just because they can bench 200kg and who think women belong in the kitchen.


Sounds like the Cheese. Razz And besides Jenni's made him a martyr now. There'll probably be welcome threads by the thousands, mostly from his multitude of female fans.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 20:58    Post subject:
oh a bigot am I. Yes I said parts of India were filthy, are you seriously doubting me?
But never did I say that Indians in general were a filthy people.
Some immigrants are leeches, no doubt about it. But again I did not generalise.
If I was abusive of my mod powers, then pray tell me. Why have I not banned you yet. Why have I not locked or trashed this thread?
Because I believe people should have free speech as long as it's not insulting.


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Serben
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 21:01    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
oh a bigot am I. Yes I said parts of India were filthy, are you seriously doubting me?
But never did I say that Indians in general were a filthy people.
Some immigrants are leeches, no doubt about it. But again I did not generalise.
If I was abusive of my mod powers, then pray tell me. Why have I not banned you yet. Why have I not locked or trashed this thread?
Because I believe people should have free speech as long as it's not insulting.



Then how come the majority of the people who voted in my poll voted for you to get banned/stripped of your mod powers? That is, before you deleted it? What's the matter? Can't take the heat? Or is everyone else wrong, and you're the only one who's right?


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 21:04    Post subject:
I have now been threatened with a permanent ban for my comments in this thread. Apparently I am the mastermind behind people attacking Jenni. If everyone could please clarify why they are disagreeing with jenni that would be good, unless I am all contorlling you somehow Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 21:06    Post subject:
Clearly the problem isn't that you was defending your country, but you insulted everybody else and put them on a lower level.

Do you know how you sound with your gibbering about immigrants?
like them:
Everything you said fits perfectly to what they say.

"They steal OUR jobs, they benefit from all OUR social offerings, fuck OUR wifes..." and so on.

You may be no racist, but you defend what those fashist nazibastards are saying. Maybe you should just think about what you are saying, because with what you say, you are on their side..

And I understand that you are angry because he "insulted" your country, but you could have said that to him. Banning him was a misusage of power.


Note: I know that your english is better than mine, just wanted to say it, before you do.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 21:06    Post subject:
MasterJuba wrote:
I have now been threatened with a permanent ban for my comments in this thread. Apparently I am the mastermind behind people attacking Jenni. If everyone could please clarify why they are disagreeing with jenni that would be good, unless I am all contorlling you somehow Rolling Eyes



Bull-fucking-shit. People are attacking Jenni because of her own actions. She brought it all on herself.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 21:07    Post subject:
Quote:
Inbox :: Message
From: MasterJuba
To: Dazz99
Posted: 02 July 2008 18:03
Subject: chess n checkers it dont matter to me

* Quote

time to take jenni out, direct your attention to the thread in general and DESTROY HER


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 21:08    Post subject:
well rinze can check my pms. this is pure bullshit.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 21:09    Post subject:
masterjuba is rinze

believe it people


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 21:09    Post subject:
Hehehe. People can't see that I'm against immigration and think I'm a racist because of that. yet they call me narrow minded. I'm certainly no Nazi.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 21:10    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
I'm certainly no Nazi.



No, you just agree with all their views. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008 21:12    Post subject:
This is going no where now. So it's time for a lock.
I'll let Rinze or any other Admin have a look and see what action needs to be taken.


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