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ahaha this is awesome. what a great way to screw over gamers (or atleast the suckers who pay for the game like i was for paying for the first one...) the cliffhanger ending - people want to see what comes next... instead... they get the same story from a different point, and they'll get screwed over at the ending all over again.. its brilliant... the third game.. Jesus Fucking Cryst will have the player going through the same story AGAIN, but from the korean point... this could go on for years before they have to even come up with the idea for a proper sequel.
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jun 2008 15:19 Post subject: |
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Don't forget about the Aliens. The story from their point must be told too.
I' am really pissed of because I hoped that in Warhead they gonna continue with the story.
I like the story so far and I want to know more about the aliens
CCIE
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jun 2008 15:29 Post subject: |
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you wont find out what happens next until crytek's finished milking the first bit for all they can... heck, given how quickly they became disinterested with supporting crysis (you know.. that game that they expected people to be playing 5 years from now when 'technology finally catches up'...) - never listened to the community, never protected the multiplayer, never bothered much with decent or useful updates, etc..., they'll probably never even bother CONTINUING the story... they'll just go...nah im bored, lets make a new game... any ideas team?
how about a sandbox game?
i like it!!
where should be set it?
umm..OOH! how about an island!!
NOW your thinking!! what shall we call it?
um...Cryland?
BRILLIANT! WE START WORK TOMORROW!!!
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jun 2008 15:38 Post subject: |
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Yam... Did you see the Live at the right top corner of the box?
Hmm ^^
Mayb this one will be a good mp game, Donno for sure. we'll see.
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jun 2008 16:16 Post subject: |
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I don't understand why ppl bitch so much about Crysis.
I don't have a top of the top machine. I play on a portable pc with a geforce 8700m that pretty much is the equivalent to an old geforce 8600, and I have all my graphics set to HIGH. I even used some of the tweaks available out there to emulate some of the very high dx10 graphics settings. The game runs like a charm in 800x600. And if I lower the graphics just a tad bit it runs perfect with no hiccups at 1024x768.
This game even on this settings surpasses any other game graphics in any system a person may choose. I've played Call Of Duty 4, MGS4 and other graphic intensive games and no they aren't at the same level as Crysis.
Now enought about graphics.
In my opinion Crysis has one of the best single player campaigns out there.
The nano suit does open up lots of options. Sorry but the AI IS GOOD. I'm running on the default settings, I play lots of FPS games like COD 4 and so on, and THIS AI is as good if not better than in other such games.
Sound is great, gameplay is open and dynamic. We get creepy moments like those aliens showing up. Action is just astonishing.
The problem with Crysis is really.... perception.
Even thought there was a game in there many people, reviewers and so on focused more on the graphics part then about exploring the real gameplay possibilities the game gives.
This didn't help.
The game is great but many people looked to it as a game to show they're machines. And because of that many have pirated the game.
It must have been one of the most pirated games out there. Also it was given the impression to many people that they would need a top geforce 8800 game to get decent graphics. Not true.
People craved for a game to test Directx 10 and when they saw (with the pirated versions) that they wouldn't be able to run it decently in Dx10 they simply dished the game.
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jun 2008 16:44 Post subject: |
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Comet, the suit is a gimmick. You cannot string together suit mode combo's as shown in the opening movie with how fast it drains energy. In fact, this is how you play with the suit.
Stealth Mode Activated
Shoot
Run
Take Cover
Stealth Mode Activated
Shoot
Run
Take Cover
Stealth Mode Activated
ETC.
Not only that but the writing is just piss poor awful. You're part of an elite special ops team but you don't even bring a knife to cut yourself down in case your parachute gets caught in the ****ing trees.
Your team mates are useless assholes. This is made evident in the first level. Also the way you are forced to do your missions all alone is just too obvious. Why is Nomad the only one capable of disabling this and that?
Crysis has the best visuals, sadly it fails in almost every other aspect of what makes a good game.
It's essentially an awesome tech demo, but a rather mediocre 'game'.
Gustave the Steel
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jun 2008 17:10 Post subject: |
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Obviously you guys did play the game.
The thing is we all have different opinions right? but I do am enjoying it.
So far i've been using the nano suit to its full extent and having great fun with it.
Of course a person may choose to skip huge parts of the map allways using cloak. They would be playing a stealth character. In my case i'm trying to mix things up and it has been fun.
For instance in one level I was in a barn like building full of enemies. I went to the top level of the building and silently grabed one of the enemies. Then I switched rapidly to strength mode and sent the enemy flying throught one window.
For me that was a really nice moment.
Also story wise it may not be top of the tops but it isnt bad.
The cinematics are well done, the action is well rounded up in my opinion. but well this is a personal opinion.
But fact is compared to the games out there it seams to me that crysis has gotten more flak than it deserved.
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Jun 2008 17:39 Post subject: |
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| Comet wrote: | I don't understand why ppl bitch so much about Crysis.
I don't have a top of the top machine. I play on a portable pc with a geforce 8700m that pretty much is the equivalent to an old geforce 8600, and I have all my graphics set to HIGH. I even used some of the tweaks available out there to emulate some of the very high dx10 graphics settings. The game runs like a charm in 800x600. And if I lower the graphics just a tad bit it runs perfect with no hiccups at 1024x768.
This game even on this settings surpasses any other game graphics in any system a person may choose. I've played Call Of Duty 4, MGS4 and other graphic intensive games and no they aren't at the same level as Crysis.
Now enought about graphics.
In my opinion Crysis has one of the best single player campaigns out there.
The nano suit does open up lots of options. Sorry but the AI IS GOOD. I'm running on the default settings, I play lots of FPS games like COD 4 and so on, and THIS AI is as good if not better than in other such games.
Sound is great, gameplay is open and dynamic. We get creepy moments like those aliens showing up. Action is just astonishing.
The problem with Crysis is really.... perception.
Even thought there was a game in there many people, reviewers and so on focused more on the graphics part then about exploring the real gameplay possibilities the game gives.
This didn't help.
The game is great but many people looked to it as a game to show they're machines. And because of that many have pirated the game.
It must have been one of the most pirated games out there. Also it was given the impression to many people that they would need a top geforce 8800 game to get decent graphics. Not true.
People craved for a game to test Directx 10 and when they saw (with the pirated versions) that they wouldn't be able to run it decently in Dx10 they simply dished the game. |
my problem with crysis.
game came out, i bought it.... yes yes i know, shut up... wont do it again...
game had problems, i expect fixes... never happened..
multiplayer was a MESS... crytek never fixed it... never bothered stopping the hackers that were ruining the game...
crytek never listened what what people were saying... balancing issues and other game issues were ignored...
crysis should have.. could have... been great... but crytek lost interest in it about 5 weeks before they even released it.
i dont hate the game, i just hate the company.. they lied about performance, they produced a half assed story that they didnt even bother to finish, and they never supported the game. But no ones arguing that its the most pretty thing out... its just a pity i want a little more in a game i guess.
crysis got so much flak because it pretended to be something it wasnt. it made promises and in the end it really was just a tech demo designed to promote the mightly cervat and crytek, and start a franchise that they could milk (need proof, please note the SEQUEL that esentially retells the half assed story from the FIRST GAME!!!)
crysis isnt a BAD game, but it DID deserve the flak that it gets, just the same as anyone who boasts about something deserves to get ripped apart when they fail and are shown for the full of themselves fools they are.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 10:01 Post subject: |
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http://futuremark.yougamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83377
A few details via a PC Gamer article, unsure if the game will actually be that optimized but if it is then they have really improved the engine.
(If the engine improvements are that good then they should release a similar optimization patch for the original game but I doubt that will happen.)
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 10:17 Post subject: |
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Crysis was awesome UNTIL the aliens came.
Then Crysis sucked until it finally finished.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 11:38 Post subject: |
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im sorry but i call bullshit... all the promises crytek made about how optimised crysis would be for high end machines, and how various patches would improve it, and how that all ended up to be utter bullshit... nah i think this is more bs hype as well.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 13:24 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | since theres no link to this magazine article, i'm just going to sumarize cause its good read.http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/crysis/news/pc-gamer-announces-crysis-warhead/a-200806041226105024/g-2006032914441159019
Chief among gamers complaints was the game's pushing of hardware boundaries, especially its so-called "future proofing" meant to allow its visuals to scale upwared withe the release of future hardware.
Yerli: this feature was included with the best of intentions, but the backlash was intense--gamers wanted to be able to max out Crysis graphics at launch on existing systems. In hindsight, Yerli agrees that the move was a "mistake" and that it would've been wiser to unlock the games highest graphics settings in a patch when better hardware became available
Crysis's high system specs were another bone of contention, and Yerli acknowledges that the launch specs were high. Warhead he promises will rewared those who upgraded to play Crysis. "if you were able to run Crysis, you'll be able to run Warhead better" says yerli.
it will still push the graphics barrier.
Warhead will benefit from a new global ambient lighting system that will boost visual acuity in the games enviro's and models. improvemtnts in the way of lights and shadows interact witht the world enhance small details previously unoticed, and spotlight the games shader effects and include new particle effects that are "dense and intense" says Yerli with no impact on frame rate.
new AI for both humans and aliens with less linear missions
"i think we announced Crysis too early" admits Yerli, who adds that unrealistically high expectations ultimatly hurt the game.
Warhead will ship this year, if Yerli has his way, all Cryteks future games will be announced in mere 3 months before thier release date. "if you have the right product, its never too late"
interview with Cvert Yerli:
q: recently, you've said that crysis was among the most pirated games, how do you know that?
a: Well, we went into the torrent stats and there were charts for this. there was a statistic that there were around 15-20 pirated copies than sold. of course it doesnt mean we would sell 15-20 times more, but at least if piracy was lower, we would double our sales.
overall our sales were good, not excellent but we broke even.
q: what would you say to someone like Brad Wardell, who argues that if you make a good game for the pc, it'll sell well, even if pirated?
a: i dont agree with him, if your pc game pushes the need for upgrading hardware, then the gamer will have to choose, its very easy choice because software you can copy, this is where we got harmed, with warhead, i think it will work differently, i hope this time they will be honest enought to buy the game.
Warhead is so optimized, it can play on a $635 machine at max settings. so Yerli says, heres what you need at newegg.
Intel E2180
samsung dvd burner
deskstar 7k160
adata 2gb ddr2 sdram
msi geforce 8600 512mb
vista 32bit premium total 652.93
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 14:56 Post subject: |
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| streetunder wrote: | | Quote: | | hard to believe eh? |
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yup
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 15:44 Post subject: |
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its funny that he talks about honesty of people and that they should buy not pirate the game, given how much bullshit yerli spat out... restricting quality settings to dx10 only so that they could promote vista, promoting quad cores when they didnt give the performance boost that yerli promised... like i said above, yerlis team didnt even bother to SUPPORT the game and the people who PAID for it, so why should anyone even bother paying for their games... hes such a hypocrite.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 16:04 Post subject: |
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He's complaining about piracy? Aren't these the guys who got raided for possessing illegal copies of model creation software and the like?
Gustave the Steel
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 16:06 Post subject: |
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Agreed with chiv
Crysis has many trade obligations with Nvidia, Intel, Microsoft, and some mistakes in its approach - final part linear, and so on. The business in the world of the PC is hardware - many dolars per high end videocar - , even today there is no videocarcard for able to move at high resolution and very high, many people will buy two or three generations of cards just to move the game;)
Crysis need a cursor for tweak the drawing distance and the distant landscape detail  . And tweaks and mods for the graphics reduce those parameters, for playing with very high settings but with minus drawing distance and detail .... and more framerate, 50 % or 100 & more .
And maybe , in the future, will be possible use this hipotetic cursor in maximun , but today is imposible
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 16:28 Post subject: |
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Pfft optimized, yeah right, I'm sure. And a C2D + 7900GT was supposed to run Crysis in its highest settings at the current grade graphics. Ya rly. Stop talking out of your ass, Yerli, and hire better programmers.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 16:58 Post subject: |
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That's not true. Look at Far Cry 2 (Dunia engine). It looks better, it has better effects, and everything runs on a fucking 360.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 17:02 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | That's not true. |
Whats not true?
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 17:08 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | That's not true. Look at Far Cry 2 (Dunia engine). It looks better, it has better effects, and everything runs on a fucking 360. |
FC2 doesn't look better. The textures are shit compared to Crysis
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 17:11 Post subject: |
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| Nui wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | That's not true. |
Whats not true? |
That devs shouldn't push graphics forward. "BEST GraFIX EVahr!" can be achieved without requiring a "starship" to run it. |
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 17:19 Post subject: |
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Far Cry 2 looks far from Crysis . Very Far
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 17:25 Post subject: |
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I enjoyed Crysis thorougly from start to finnish. I do not know how anyone couldnt, it was awesome. Im an oldschool gamer, I love it when the next massive game comes. I felt the awe of entering the alien ship just like I felt the awe of the final boss to Quake 1 in the 90's.
Sublime for me.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 17:26 Post subject: |
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| jonelo wrote: | | Far Cry 2 looks far from Crysis . Very Far |
Far better, I know. |
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 17:36 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Nui wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | That's not true. |
Whats not true? |
That devs shouldn't push graphics forward. "BEST GraFIX EVahr!" can be achieved without requiring a "starship" to run it. |
I didnt say otherwise.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Jun 2008 22:32 Post subject: |
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Plus, can you burn grass on Crysis? Nope! Far Cry 2 will at least have more patches than Crysis because of one factor, Ubisoft actually cares. EA just wanted to make a buck which is what they did.
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Add the fucking aliens to this boredom, I am glad there won't be any in FC2. 
