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Without starting a useless debate here, let's just say that for me RPG =/= l3wting, killing and power levelling. Sure, there're dialogues involved too, but your choices are: black, grey and white. Not to mention the fact that the three options are always positioned at the same place, effectively eliminating the need to actually ponder any possible answers. So for me, this looks like an action game. Perhaps you can say that with RPG elements.
Over and out.
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| Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008 17:26 Post subject: |
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| r3dshift wrote: | Without starting a useless debate here, let's just say that for me RPG =/= l3wting, killing and power levelling. Sure, there're dialogues involved too, but your choices are: black, grey and white. Not to mention the fact that the three options are always positioned at the same place, effectively eliminating the need to actually ponder any possible answers. So for me, this looks like an action game. Perhaps you can say that with RPG elements.
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What RPG has the dialogue system you want? It's always black, green or white. You're either good, bad or neutral. Sure some RPG's might give you the feeling you have different choices, but in the end it usually turns out to be all the same. Maybe Witcher came close to good dialogue options.
And it's obvious this game isn't a hardcore RPG, it's an action/RPG.
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| Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008 17:38 Post subject: |
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I think the problem is more due to Bioware themselves. Their games since KOTOR (Baldurs Gate as well I suppose, but it never felt quite as clear cut for some reason despite it being D&D) have had very strong divides between the good/evil options and an "alignment system" that keeps track, and where the evil often amounts to being a thug or bully.
My biggest beef about Mass Effect is what many others like so much, the uber heavy narrative and cinematic approach. I wish devs would go back to providing a good story where it feels like the *player* discovers it instead of the game constantly forcing cutscenes and narrative on you.
I also don't particularly like the action-y approach, with stats working in the background. Give me pure action, or pure RPG "stats only" combat where the player is in a more tactical role instead of "in the action". I can't stand these hybrid systems.
Anyways, the upcoming Dragon Age will at least not have an alignment system at all, which is one reason to look forward to it I suppose.
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Sobaka13
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| Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008 18:11 Post subject: |
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If anyone wants to know...
It seems that russian version of MEPC won't have internet activation and/or number of instalation limit. Looks like no SecuROM for us... Say hello to StarForce, for better or worse...
Official info from local publisher and localicer
http://news.snowball.ru/?year=2008&month=5#A200805121306 (in Russian)
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| Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008 18:59 Post subject: |
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| Sobaka13 wrote: | If anyone wants to know...
It seems that russian version of MEPC won't have internet activation and/or number of instalation limit. Looks like no SecuROM for us... Say hello to StarForce, for better or worse...
Official info from local publisher and localicer
http://news.snowball.ru/?year=2008&month=5#A200805121306 (in Russian) |
google translation:
Studio Snowball.ru and firm 1 P reported that in order to launch the Russian version of role-playing MASS EFFECT Internet activation is not required. Game will be put on an infinite number of times an unlimited number of computers. Internet connection for the game is not necessary.
An agreement on this was reached in a long and arduous process of communicating with studio BioWare. At the final decision of Canadian developers have had a significant impact hundreds of users AG.ru, Bioware.ru and other Russian portals. Where there is activation of what was the reaction to it from the studio staff and how they have chosen to deal with it - all this can be found in the near videointervyu lokalizatorov.
Snowball.ru firm 1 and S express deep gratitude MASS EFFECT fans for their support and reminded that the Russian version of the game will be released on May 30, 2008.
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Ispep
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| Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008 19:02 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | r3dshift wrote: | Without starting a useless debate here, let's just say that for me RPG =/= l3wting, killing and power levelling. Sure, there're dialogues involved too, but your choices are: black, grey and white. Not to mention the fact that the three options are always positioned at the same place, effectively eliminating the need to actually ponder any possible answers. So for me, this looks like an action game. Perhaps you can say that with RPG elements.
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What RPG has the dialogue system you want? It's always black, green or white. You're either good, bad or neutral. Sure some RPG's might give you the feeling you have different choices, but in the end it usually turns out to be all the same. Maybe Witcher came close to good dialogue options.
And it's obvious this game isn't a hardcore RPG, it's an action/RPG. |
Nothing is perfect, not least games made ten or so years ago. The caveat is when games of a more recent stock fail to improve upon the ideas of old and instead go down the path of simplifying further. |
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008 20:46 Post subject: |
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Stupid of them, investing all that money into that many different protections and those online verifications and now the groups could just take the weakest one (Safedisc) and crack that executable.
(It's just a EXE after all and those were never that important in Unreal engine titles in regards to functionality aside from launching the game which means that I doubt using the Czech exe on the English version shouldn't cause any issues aside from patches and content addon as those require a legit EXE and also require re-verification to work.)
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| Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008 20:59 Post subject: |
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| fawe4 wrote: | I see you like Diablo clones.  As for me I don't care about leveling, all I want in rpg is good story. I never liked Diablo, Dungeon Siege and even Neverwinter Nights. And I seriously doubt that ME wlll leave me disappointed. |
I hope that smiley means sarcasm on your part, as for me =/= means "does not equal". Hence, I can't be arsed about hack 'n slash games.
| Quote: | | What RPG has the dialogue system you want? It's always black, green or white. You're either good, bad or neutral. |
The Witcher does. Most of the time in that game you have to choose between bad and real bad, and often the consequences become clear only at later stages. And it's bloody hard to even try and be neutral.
| Quote: | | And it's obvious this game isn't a hardcore RPG, it's an action/RPG. |
I totally agree with Ispep in this respect. Dumbing down games bodes no good; plus it makes me feel like the devs assume that everyone's a retarded 10-year old American kid, which is outrageous.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008 21:12 Post subject: |
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Mass Effect Goes Gold
Today, EA and BioWare announced that the PC version of the acclaimed sci-fi role-playing game, which debuted on the Xbox 360 more than six months ago, has gone gold, which means that the code is finished and off to the duplication plant.
When it will arrive at a store near you depends on where you live. North American gamers will get the game on May 28. European gamers will have to wait a bit longer, as it won't arrive on their continent until June 6.
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| Posted: Sat, 17th May 2008 01:34 Post subject: |
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| jamesb wrote: | Mass Effect Goes Gold
Today, EA and BioWare announced that the PC version of the acclaimed sci-fi role-playing game, which debuted on the Xbox 360 more than six months ago, has gone gold, which means that the code is finished and off to the duplication plant.
When it will arrive at a store near you depends on where you live. North American gamers will get the game on May 28. European gamers will have to wait a bit longer, as it won't arrive on their continent until June 6.
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"European gamers will have to wait" .. wana bet? there just asking for it to be pirated. im not waiting
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| Posted: Sat, 17th May 2008 02:38 Post subject: |
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Well, I was thinking about buying this ... but I'm not waiting for so many days, while the whole fucking internet gets their sweet Bioware-RPG dosage.
Maybe if it's really good I'll buy it afterwards, who knows.
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| Posted: Sat, 17th May 2008 04:09 Post subject: |
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i'm sure its more involved than what i seen in the new hd trailler but gameplay looks like bia:eib[just more ordering stupid ai around].
"no good deed goes unpunished" jesus to apostle john
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$n@ke
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| Posted: Sun, 18th May 2008 15:42 Post subject: |
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So the game is gold and hits stores the 28th, any hope for an early scene release?
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| Posted: Sun, 18th May 2008 18:15 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th May 2008 18:25 Post subject: |
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It will take at least a week before it's cracked.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th May 2008 18:36 Post subject: |
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yoyoxp
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| Posted: Sun, 18th May 2008 18:43 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 19th May 2008 21:43 Post subject: |
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when czech version comes out?
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0M3G4
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Aurochs
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| Posted: Tue, 20th May 2008 18:37 Post subject: |
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We have it in stores 30th may in Russia.
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JBeckman
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Sobaka13
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| Posted: Tue, 20th May 2008 22:06 Post subject: |
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Teniak
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| Posted: Tue, 20th May 2008 22:22 Post subject: |
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| Sobaka13 wrote: | | Personally I'd prefer to play games in original because translation often leaves much to be disered, so I'm not sure whether to buy or not... |
The translation in russian ME is almost perfect. I've seen it.
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Aurochs
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| Posted: Tue, 20th May 2008 23:27 Post subject: |
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Sobaka13
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| Posted: Thu, 22nd May 2008 23:06 Post subject: |
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| Vodka-Redbull wrote: | | The translation in russian ME is almost perfect. I've seen it. |
Well, I didn't, so meh.
But if it is really good then there is one more reason to actually buy it. Will live, will see. ETA Russia 7 days.
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oh yeah EA just LOOOOOVVVVEEEESSS americans hahahaha , the same will be with Alone in the Dark 5
