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 Posted: Sat, 10th May 2008 16:50 Post subject: |
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| Cebrail wrote: | Well dispite what SyN says, it's nothing even remotely like Vanguard, heck it's not even like Vanguard a month after launch.
The client is much more stable after yesterday's patch, even the Open beta one, and also the ones that whine about not enough going on, too linear and so on, well I guess you need to learn to read.
The first 20 levels of the game are linear, almost singleplayer, designed to put you into the story of the game, it has tons of singleplayer, instances and training for all the different skills and abilitee's
After level 20 the game opens up as a regular MMORPG, like WOW or so, with open worlds and such.
I preordered this game even though I was originally not interested in it, but after trying the beta, dispite it's crashes, I found that this game has a lot going for it, not least of which is an innovate combat system |
x1 Since im also in closed beta.
LvL 1-5 only singleplayer (tutorial- takes 10min to do)
LvL 5-20 multiplayer with a mix of singleplayer instances to get you into the basics and storyline.
lvl 20-80 open world regular MMO style.
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| Posted: Sat, 10th May 2008 16:55 Post subject: |
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Im in the Open beta and the Closed beta, both for AoC and for WAR
I just spent the last 2 hours testing level 20 (they put every at 20 with gear and Full world pvp, from level 13 which was open beta cap, to avoid spoiling the whole story) and i'll say this.
Open pvp is frantic, fun, and gives those who think a GIGANTIC advantage, like the fact that most classes can stealth to some degree, but few uses it.
Anyway the graphics are nice, and DX10 aint even activated yet, the combo's get much more interesting once they contain more than just 1 keypress and the classes are very varied in my view.
All in all im very glad I preordered, it is, much as I HATE to say this, a lot better than WAR currently, even though that was thankfully delayed to fix the TON of issues it has.
Only big difference is that AoC still have some stuttering/crash issues at places, though thats much improved in the real client from what I can see, and WAR has the total lack of pvp class balance.
I think AOC will be really good, once people get past the whole "oh noes, the game is a linear/singleplayer, wooooe!" and play to above 20
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| Posted: Sat, 10th May 2008 17:04 Post subject: |
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Can I use my closed beta account with Fileplanet open beta client? I see it posted on newsgroups and downloading from beta website is incredibly slow.
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| Posted: Sat, 10th May 2008 17:09 Post subject: |
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| Glottis wrote: | | Can I use my closed beta account with Fileplanet open beta client? I see it posted on newsgroups and downloading from beta website is incredibly slow. |
Yeah, just change the localconfig.xml.
It should look like this:
<HttpPatchAddr> http://externalupdate-us.ageofconan.com/upm </HttpPatchAddr>
<ClientHttpPatchAddr> http://externalupdate-us-game.ageofconan.com/upm </ClientHttpPatchAddr>
<HttpPatchFolder> GeneralBeta2 </HttpPatchFolder>
<UniverseAddr> generalbeta.ageofconan.com:7000 </UniverseAddr>
<DevName> conan </DevName>
<UniverseVersion> 2 </UniverseVersion>
<PatchVersion> 22 </PatchVersion>
It will patch for like 5 minutes then you are good to go.
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| Posted: Sat, 10th May 2008 17:17 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | All in all im very glad I preordered, it is, much as I HATE to say this, a lot better than WAR currently, even though that was thankfully delayed to fix the TON of issues it has. |
WAR are still only letting people test specific areas where there still needs alot of work doing ?
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| Posted: Sat, 10th May 2008 23:16 Post subject: |
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Yes Snop1050, it's still Focus Testing, so special side/class vs special side/class.
Also it's level and area defined, with templated chars and so.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 04:02 Post subject: |
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Well I thought I would throw my two cents in on this one.
Let me start by saying that im a huge MMO fan and I have been looking forward to AoC for sometime now. I have played all the usual suspects (WoW, L2, Eve, FFXI, DaoC) so I have a good grasp of the MMO landscape.
I have rolled a total of 4 characters for AoC and I must say that I am very disappointed by each and every one of them. I started in the CB back in Jan and had my initial character boosted to 40.
Before those that have played OB and CB jump on the bandwagon of "you didn't give it a good enough go", I played two of my characters to 40, one to 60 and the other is currently 26. The game while not totally instanced is instances after 20 and those of you that try and say otherwise need to take a step back and look completely at the non-PVP aspect of the game.
To address general stuff, the graphics while nice aren't anything to write home about. I have seen more complete graphics in games that have been out for several years now (eg L2). While they have obviously put alot of effort into the motions of this game they simply just don't fit correctly and appear oftentimes out of place in the environment.
Classes in AoC aren't balanced at all, I do not know if this is by design to encourage team work, or if they just have not gotten around to PvP and PvE balance. As it stands, some classes you just don't play, some you do play (can anyone who played CB remember back to Barbarians of February?)
The load times varied during the CB phase, sometimes they were good, sometimes they were bad however of late (after the servers were moved) the load times for the different zones (Khemi for example) are just woeful and not worth the waiting.
While they have advertised alot of different 'features' of the game in reality there is very little implemented for the higher end content. While this does allow them to have some breathing space while the MMO community gets up to the high level content Funcom need to realise that the hard core MMOers will get to the high level content in a matter of weeks. I was invited to attend the city building test they held a few sundays ago and it was a complete and total failure.
There is still alot of work that needs to be put into this product, releasing it on the 20th of May it will be in a state that most objective players would call 'beta' and certainly not worth paying 15 dollars a month (or more depending on where you live). The lower level content is about 75% complete but this only spans up to around level 20. For example there are several incomplete areas still during the initial learning areas of the game (Rorric prison cell for example).
All in all, i can't say that there is a better MMO out there as they all have their plus and minus, but I can say that I will not be playing AoC, they have promised alot but only delivered only a few of the key things that would have made this MMO stand out against the already packed MMO marketplace.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 09:52 Post subject: |
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| Trolldeg wrote: | | Glottis wrote: | | Can I use my closed beta account with Fileplanet open beta client? I see it posted on newsgroups and downloading from beta website is incredibly slow. |
Yeah, just change the localconfig.xml.
It should look like this:
<HttpPatchAddr> http://externalupdate-us.ageofconan.com/upm </HttpPatchAddr>
<ClientHttpPatchAddr> http://externalupdate-us-game.ageofconan.com/upm </ClientHttpPatchAddr>
<HttpPatchFolder> GeneralBeta2 </HttpPatchFolder>
<UniverseAddr> generalbeta.ageofconan.com:7000 </UniverseAddr>
<DevName> conan </DevName>
<UniverseVersion> 2 </UniverseVersion>
<PatchVersion> 22 </PatchVersion>
It will patch for like 5 minutes then you are good to go. |
Well the game updated fine but when I press PLAY updater just restarts and same thing over and over again. It seems as if AgeOfConan.exe does exactly same thing as patcher. exe and i need closed beta exes.
Could someone with closed beta client please upload AgeOfConan.exe, ConanPatcher.exe, dbDebug.patcher, Patcher.log, PatcherSetup.exe, PatchVersion.txt to some place such as www.filedropper.com or similar? Just rar them together and upload, thanks.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 12:56 Post subject: |
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@Darkergray
Well written and thought out post man. Thanks for the insights.
Looks like this will be another title not worth picking up for a year or so till they get it out of Alpha. May be good in the future though, who knows? After all, Vanguard shaped up.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 13:37 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | @Darkergray
Well written and thought out post man. Thanks for the insights.
Looks like this will be another title not worth picking up for a year or so till they get it out of Alpha. May be good in the future though, who knows? After all, Vanguard shaped up. |
Beta, he said beta
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 14:20 Post subject: |
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| Glottis wrote: | | Trolldeg wrote: | | Glottis wrote: | | Can I use my closed beta account with Fileplanet open beta client? I see it posted on newsgroups and downloading from beta website is incredibly slow. |
Yeah, just change the localconfig.xml.
It should look like this:
<HttpPatchAddr> http://externalupdate-us.ageofconan.com/upm </HttpPatchAddr>
<ClientHttpPatchAddr> http://externalupdate-us-game.ageofconan.com/upm </ClientHttpPatchAddr>
<HttpPatchFolder> GeneralBeta2 </HttpPatchFolder>
<UniverseAddr> generalbeta.ageofconan.com:7000 </UniverseAddr>
<DevName> conan </DevName>
<UniverseVersion> 2 </UniverseVersion>
<PatchVersion> 22 </PatchVersion>
It will patch for like 5 minutes then you are good to go. |
Well the game updated fine but when I press PLAY updater just restarts and same thing over and over again. It seems as if AgeOfConan.exe does exactly same thing as patcher. exe and i need closed beta exes.
Could someone with closed beta client please upload AgeOfConan.exe, ConanPatcher.exe, dbDebug.patcher, Patcher.log, PatcherSetup.exe, PatchVersion.txt to some place such as www.filedropper.com or similar? Just rar them together and upload, thanks. |
I did that thing and it worked on closed beta with my fileplanet client afterwards.
But with this crap game i´m not suprised it didnt work for you. I suggest you ask in the closed beta forums as the fix came from a programmer of theirs.
And sorry can´t help you with the exe´s as I deleted the game.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 14:24 Post subject: |
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Thats one persons viewpoint.. If they were all the same what a bore the world would be.
I say try it first if u dont like it so be it, if u do like it all good. Find me a game be it mmo or not that does not have one or more issues someone will pick up on and complain about..
As said there is hardly anything new still around to get your teeth into mmo wise that isnt so much the same as the last mmo you played etc, but at same time it does have some fun unique things going on.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 15:42 Post subject: |
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@moosenoodles, I am not sure if you are referring to my post, but I did not intend to convey that all MMOs should be the same. I am looking for something fresh in the MMO market place. There is only a limit to the amount of games like WoW that people can play. AoC promised alot of unique elements (eg direction combat, DX10, city building) but failed to deliver on their promises. Direction combat is a joke due to the very simplified version that they left in the game, IMHO the previous version would be been better even thou the learning curve was longer. City Building is very limited and does not work at the current point in time due to some major bugs.
@Immunity, I agree with you, I may go back and look at AoC in a year or so when they have sorted out their issues and realigned what the publics perception of the game is. PS: BSG owns 
@Ghworg, yes I did say beta, however the whole point of a closed beta is to test the game as it will be released. It doesn't make much sense to provide an earlier build to your closed beta testers unless you plan on testing specific areas of your product. It is clear from Funcom's previous focused testing groups (eg city building) did not require a different client (apart from a small <500mb patch) to perform the testing.
I would absolutely love it if Funcom released a new client when the launched the game however my money is on that fact that they don't release a new client which addresses alot of the AoC communities issues.
I am not here to rag on the game, I am here to present a balanced view of the problems with AoC at this present point in time so that people who did not get into the CB or OB can make a semi informed decision before shelling out 40 - 50 bucks to a company.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 16:16 Post subject: |
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hmmm i dont mind really the bug thing, ive been in so many mmo's that were in beta on release its untrue.. The thing for me is participating and not leaving it a year to join where then ive had a year to build up stuff required for having even more fun when all is much better gameplay wise.
If people can't afford to shell out the money for it then i suppose yes wait, but if u can i dont see why not giving it a go and sticking with it, heavens know weve all done it with umpteen mmo;'s before now..
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 16:59 Post subject: |
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Well for all your "balanced view" of the game Darkergray, your view is extremely scewed to one side, you don't enjoy it, so everything you write is colored by that.
I played all classes to 13 in Open Beta, 5 classes to 30+, I think that while the classes are not pvp balanced, they are for pve, all of them can do whats needed, some are just better at certain spots than others, just like in every single other mmo.
And the instancing is for missions, you can do free-world pve and pvp, just like you could in AO even if the missions were better.
As for the utter BULLSHIT about L2 having better graphics.....First of all they are not even remotely similar, one of them is a shiny version of a world with lots of crap, AND have years of upgrades and fixes, the other tries to be gritty and more realistic.
The game aint perfect, it has bugs, any game with so many classes will have balance issues, the pvp can be a serious gank problem because of so much stealth, but all in all, the game has tons of potential, more than any mmorpg I have seen the last several years, since WOW actually.
And I have been playing these games since the days of MUDS, UO and EQ
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 17:28 Post subject: |
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pvp dont work in games where the classes are balanced for pve
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 17:30 Post subject: |
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A little question can i still join the beta?
I can download the fileplanet client but where do i need to make an account and get the key if its needed?
Hope somebody can answer these questions.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 18:09 Post subject: |
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I have an open beta account if someone wants it message me. I am in closed so I dont use the open one.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 20:35 Post subject: |
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Bit late, Open Beta is over, Pre-Launch is the 17'th, Launch is the 20'th
Pre-lauch download starts later today
(EU Launch is 23, Prelaunch is still 17 for EU)
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 21:16 Post subject: |
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damn, hope there will be a trial.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 22:26 Post subject: |
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As for the lovely colorfull reply from a previous poster above about how he thinks the game sucks cause it aint finished and that kind of crap , no offence but sofar I havent seen any MMO that was done the way it went online as final.
Even WoW wasnt complete or done and even in WoW there where dozens of bugs.
As like someone else said before I think I go on with my own judgement and will try a trial before I buy it and come with my own personal opinion about this game.
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| Posted: Sun, 11th May 2008 22:28 Post subject: |
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No trial, at least not announced any.
Maybe after a while, but I would not count on it, not with the major interest in it, the just simply don't need freebies yet.
Still, on the other hand Funcom has a great record for trials and freebies with Anarchy Online.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th May 2008 02:34 Post subject: |
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hey k i have here the open beta from fileplanet but it's closed now
so what can i still do with this game on my pc? :s
nothing and can i just remove it?
or can you update from it when the pre launch starts
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| Posted: Mon, 12th May 2008 03:57 Post subject: |
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Cebrail, I think you might have become blinded a little by funcom and their new offering. For a game with far superior graphics they can't even get clipping done correctly, please tell me how this is a good graphical game? Also one of my characters breasts start around her mid section, not at all realistic.
Yes all MMOs have bugs however the more polished MMOs seem to do alot better, just check out the current subscribers for the MMOs these days. You state the Lineage 2's graphics are not even comparable to AoC, well they are shiney if you turn in bloom, but you can turn that off in the graphics options  I am talking about graphics being polished, of a decent resolution, if you mean that AoC being gritty means that textures sometimes don't render, or perhaps you can fall through the world or perhaps when you die your corpse never actually stops dying then I guess AoC is definitely gritty.
There is a difference between a game that launches with bugs, and a game that launches with show stopping bugs. AoC for example still has many instances of cyclic crashes that you need to get a GM to move your character in order to keep playing the game. Its ok if you want to buy the game, but just don't be disappointed or hold it up on a high pedestal of greatness and delude yourself of the games greatness. I am not going to loose any sleep if you do.
Funcom have not replied to any of the threads about trial versions but I seriously doubt that there will be a trail until later in the games life, perhaps when the interest goes down a little from the hordes of people that get disappointed with the game.
With regards to stroking your e-peen, I used to play red dragon on my local BBS before I played MUDS (3k) and EQ. So really take your BS stroking elsewhere to where people might actually care.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th May 2008 04:39 Post subject: |
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Darkergray are you perhaps a fan boy of a dif MMO cause I think you taking this AOC thingy a bit to serious .
Thats you dont like the game is something we can tell already and about bashing it well fine I and some others prolly dont give a flying fuck about untill they have tried it out themself.
Every MMO has it certain players that say I like it and give good points and there is also some people like you that bash it on every point they can find.
About trial well time will tell and i`m sure i`m not the only one that says to FunCom to go fuck themself when it comes to the point that I wont pre order it untill I tried it.
About saying to someone about his E-peen factor I think you have to look at your own comments first before saying that to someone else
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| Posted: Mon, 12th May 2008 05:09 Post subject: |
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