[XBOX360] Grand Theft Auto IV ***GAMEPLAY DISCUSSION***
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_SiN_
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:29    Post subject:
Yep, it was BS Smile The game runs fine anyway Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:31    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Yep, it was BS Smile The game runs fine anyway Wink


Good to know. Smile

What about the other stuff I asked. lol

Any stupid glitches like peds and cars disappearing and crap when you turn from them?
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:33    Post subject:
Vodka-Redbull wrote:
Only two things I object to:

- Dating is useless. Why on earth would you go on a boring virtual date with a boring virtual girl instead of playing the game? Please, enlighten me.

- Saint's Row is uber ugly compared to GTA4. In every aspect - architecture, car models, peds, everything. Explosions, fire and smoke FX too.


I disagree with explosions being better than SR - they're not


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:37    Post subject:
TheGame110011001 wrote:
Ace wrote:
i kinda agree, dating is useless.
sure you get bonuses but those are mostly with the guys i think.
since most woman turn you down, and you cannot try again


First the bitch didn't want sex... than later I just said goodbye and than she wanted sex...

I mean wtf rockstar how can we know in videogames if she is ready or not...


Just so that i know, is it possible to have sex with the girl? if not i wont bother with that fucking cunt.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:38    Post subject:
maxiepaxie wrote:
The only weird thing I've seen in those gameplay video's is the way Niko walks, especially when the player turns him to the left or right, he walks like this : \ instead of | , I've never seen anyone turn like that except for maybe a golem



yea i noticed that and its a bit annoying the way he turns corners like he's a fucking motorbike? and the whole screen spins in a way that will definitley fuck some peoples heads that usually only suffer from 3d motion sickness on the 1st person games.

strange.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:42    Post subject:
Anyone else find that the controls both on foot and in-car are pretty loose? It just feels so cumbersome to me.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:47    Post subject:
yea the camera is not great, and the on foot feel was a bit of a let down to me. originally i thought i could happily just wander around the city for ages at a time...but with the camera and the whole feel of it...no chance. hate to say it, but feels less natural than the gta 3 trilogy in some ways.

great game and all that blah blah, but it sure has been overtaken by its own hype..which of course suits rockstar, m$ and sony just fine Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:48    Post subject:
How big is the map of the whole thing, compared to Mafia for ex.?
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:51    Post subject:
the map is fine in terms of size/detail, no complaints there. plenty to see and do, and the scale seems about right. not far off gta:sa in terms of actual city areas i would say once you forget all the outlands and desert crap.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:54    Post subject:
gibster wrote:
yea the camera is not great, and the on foot feel was a bit of a let down to me. originally i thought i could happily just wander around the city for ages at a time...but with the camera and the whole feel of it...no chance. hate to say it, but feels less natural than the gta 3 trilogy in some ways.

great game and all that blah blah, but it sure has been overtaken by its own hype..which of course suits rockstar, m$ and sony just fine Smile


+1

Only played 2 hours so far, as you say great game and all BUT i am a little dissapointed so far, controls on foot feel sloppy to me, i end up retracing steps as i am not under full control of nico!
Hopefully i'll get too grips with the controls, i do love the driving though, def an improvment over the old gta's


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:55    Post subject:
Sound and physics on the cars? anyone?
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:59    Post subject:
yes i can confirm there are sound and physics on the cars
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 13:04    Post subject:
BigBasher wrote:
yes i can confirm there are sound and physics on the cars

Excellent news, that's definitely next-gen.

Now someone, please, tell us about building available for exploring.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 13:04    Post subject:
shit i love -

car crash sounds now sound REAL
flipping my car broke all the windows upon landing on the roof.
old cars the brake squeak (romans cars)
newer cars have GPS voice systems, different cars have different GPS voices and old cars dont have it at all.
The TV in Niko's room
jumping over open car doors
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gibster




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 13:08    Post subject:
Grale wrote:
gibster wrote:
yea the camera is not great, and the on foot feel was a bit of a let down to me. originally i thought i could happily just wander around the city for ages at a time...but with the camera and the whole feel of it...no chance. hate to say it, but feels less natural than the gta 3 trilogy in some ways.

great game and all that blah blah, but it sure has been overtaken by its own hype..which of course suits rockstar, m$ and sony just fine Smile


+1

Only played 2 hours so far, as you say great game and all BUT i am a little dissapointed so far, controls on foot feel sloppy to me, i end up retracing steps as i am not under full control of nico!
Hopefully i'll get too grips with the controls, i do love the driving though, def an improvment over the old gta's




(off topic) LOVE the logo Grale, cant wait for the 500 Abarth Very Happy


back on topic, yes driving is great. goes for me too, will play the game loads but it ISNT the best thing since sliced bread, jesus, whatever.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 13:32    Post subject:
Any cheats yet ? Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 13:34    Post subject:
My little review from yesterdays playing:

* Physics.
One of the most awesome thing about the game. Car handling is so improved, it's NOTHING like the old GTA. How Niko walks, adapts to the surface, how people react when you punch/hit/shoot them. I love the physics engine Smile

* Graphics.
The graphics are generally good, and seeing how detailed and big the game is, it's great. Characters are nicely detailed. Only drawback is some low-res textures, but i did expect that. Remember how big the game is people, you can't have high-res textures on everything. Some pop-ups, but they're not that much of a hassle, most of us are used to them anyway. I think only people who are very picky will find them very annoying.

* Sound.
Just great. The sound really brings the city to life, and the SFX are very good. From car crash sounds, to GPS voices, breaking things to voice actors.

* Details.
Here is where the game is unparalleled, NO GAME comes close to being as detailed as GTA IV. It feels like everything has been given a good amount of time to complete, from small things to buildings and large areas. Can't really explain it, you'll see! The city feels so much more alive because of this.

And thats all the technical stuff.
The gameplay/story is what makes GTA what it is. Sure, SR may be technically good (some agree, some don't - not the point) but so far no-one beats GTA in terms of storyline, immersion and ingenuity.

And im not that far in to the game, i've played for about 4 hrs so far, so my opinions about things MIGHT change, but im absolutely sure the game will be one of the best i've played in a long, long time.


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 13:49    Post subject:
I want the OST (Original soundtracks) to this game! I just love the radio channels.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 13:57    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
My little review from yesterdays playing...


Sweet. Thx to you and the rest that write their first impressions/reviews. Nice read!

Hopefully my xbox will come back from germoney soon and I´ll join in on the fun. And the MP! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 13:57    Post subject:
LIBERTY CITY HARDCORE! Very Happy

Easily the best station Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 14:01    Post subject:
gibster wrote:
(off topic) LOVE the logo Grale, cant wait for the 500 Abarth Very Happy


Yeah great that they brought it back, should be a quick little racer Twisted Evil
My last car was a Red Integrale16V awesome car, LOVED IT and miss it Crying or Very sad

*Sorry for off topic*

Sin did you find the city a little dull to start with? i might have to adjust the display settings again. I took michelle bowling and when i left to take her home it was morning and everything was foggy, absolutely awesome effects


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 14:01    Post subject:
nice review sin - my biggest gripe is the jerky camera when you turn or look around, really dunno why they've fucked that up so badly...other than that pretty good.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 14:02    Post subject:
Grale wrote:
gibster wrote:
(off topic) LOVE the logo Grale, cant wait for the 500 Abarth Very Happy


Yeah great that they brought it back, should be a quick little racer Twisted Evil
My last car was a Red Integrale16V awesome car, LOVED IT and miss it Crying or Very sad

*Sorry for off topic*

Sin did you find the city a little dull to start with? i might have to adjust the display settings again. I took michelle bowling and when i left to take her home it was morning and everything was foggy, absolutely awesome effects



yea same here - i put the brightness up 2 notches in display settings, has sorted that.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 14:02    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
I played for two hours yesterday and i've not even touched a gun!

Here is my mini review, or even, just some thoughts:

* It seems easy to get a 6* rating, or maybe this can been seen as just more realistic - if i kill a few cops, its at 6*

* There doesnt seem to be a helicopter available on the island you start on - driving around the airport, while fun - doesn't help you. You get a 6* rating (after a while). If you drive infront of an airplane jet, you dont get blown away. If you drive infront of the wheels, sometimes you get pushed aside, sometimes it goes through you.

* The story seems better than the usual GTA games, I feel more engrossed with it - and it is generally a much better story.

* using your phone to make or recieve calls, you can always phoen your gf and go out on a date instead of helping your cousin.. if you do that, you will later have to pick him up from the hospital and he will bitch for a good few dialogues about how you put pussy infront of family. Apparently, this also works the other way around (i.e. your gf gets bitchy if you dont take her on a date, helping your cousin instead)... I guess the respect and admiration stats for each character change with the paths you take. However, it would seem like choosing one over the other does NOT mean you miss a mission - they've cleverly designed the dialogue so that you still do the same missions, just with different chit chat.

* the handling of the cars is a bit more difficult - however i would say that this will come with practise and certainly doesn't negate away from the fun of driving around in any way.

* I've already seen sunshine, moonlight and a fog storm.

* going to "bed" advances the day by 6 hours, however you do not need to return to your house in order to save the game - it autosaves after each mission. (apparently, fail a mission and you can restart it straight away via the phone).

* talking of the phone, it works really well and adds a interesting factor into the game ... driving along and want to go on a date, sure, phone your GF.

* there is ALOT of detail in the environment, i got stuck behind a fence for a while and behind it was a garden table and chairs - something you wouldn't have seen / noticed from the normal road.

* fighting is really hard - in an early mission you are called to beat up two people - i nearly died during this - it's important to block (A) and jump out the way (AA), as well as kick, punch and "special" your enemy.

* graphically, the game looks really good. I would say its better than saints row, however I dont think its THAT much better. To be honest, Saints Row was impressive visually, and I think in some ways it stole GTA4's biscuit.

* it's worth noting that graphical slowdowns are not that hindering, and the odd frame skip is not noticable usually. its much smoother than saints row.

* the sat nav is pretty cool, and in some cars it'll tell you to not only turn left, but turn left in XX yards. this cannot be changed to meters.

* there are no load times, appart from an initial 30-60 second load. going into buildings is as smooth as it could be.

Any questions?


Theres an annilator helicopter on the island you start on airport right around the back. Smash the window and your in, flying seems way easier than GTA:SA Got rid of a 4 star wated level!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 14:17    Post subject:
Guys .. What about COMEDY CLUBS ... i heard Ricky Gervais was in the game ... How does interaction with Comedy Clubs work ? Cheers
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 14:18    Post subject:
Gervais was on one of the radio stations too. Not seen in the comedy club yet. You cant get rid of a 6 star wanted level, although I got the achievement of one man army for surviving one for ages!!
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 14:44    Post subject:
gervais is just his politics show material or something recycled for the game
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 14:47    Post subject:
Saw Gervais on TV (which is awesome, gotta love all the spoofs of real TV shows etc), still just starting out and I think I only have access to one club (The Perestroika, heh went there for a date and the show was so crappy it was good Very Happy).

Unarmed fighting is hard, either I'm doing something wrong or you have to time the dodge thing perfectly. Plus it's annoying how if you pick a fight with some random guy on the street, some other people might join in and they always seem to side with the other guy. And of course there's police everywhere to mess things up further.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 14:53    Post subject:
inz wrote:
Saw Gervais on TV (which is awesome, gotta love all the spoofs of real TV shows etc), still just starting out and I think I only have access to one club (The Perestroika, heh went there for a date and the show was so crappy it was good Very Happy).


Yeah the TV shows are fun, quite a lot of channels and shows aswell. The darkness had full length movies but all of them were old crap anyway and it was just a fun gimmick. These TV shows actually adds a bit to the immersion Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 14:59    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
LIBERTY CITY HARDCORE! Very Happy

Easily the best station Smile


AGREED, Love some of the adverts, Funny has fuck.
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