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I'll admit - when I first took a look at this game I was fairly intrigued. The classes looked interesting, the setting was fairly unique, and it looked beautiful graphically. Add to that the fact that the developers had enough balls to go for the M rating, and it pretty much had me sold.
However, the more I dug the grimmer the picture became:
1) Talked to a guy in Vanguard who was in the closed beta - basically summarized that it was about as finished as Vanguard was upon launch (alpha stage more or less).
Zones are fairly boxed in, and it felt more like an MMO FPS than RPG. Lots of mindless clicking. He said the closest thing he could compare the combat to was Dark Messiah of Might and Magic but faster. Also that character customization was on the light side.
2) As I started reading more and more about it - player cities that were instanced etc. etc. I couldn't help but get that shitty feeling I get when something doesn't smell right - kinda like when they touted Guild Wars as a Free to play MMO. Sorry, but an MMO does not have 80% of its stuff instanced.
and finally the kicker and killer....
3) Age of Conan is coming to X360. Sorry, but you can't have an MMO on a console. That alone speaks volumes about the depth of this game (or lack thereof). Guild Wars was in no way an MMO, and me thinks neither is this. More false advertising and bullshit claims.
Until I see otherwise , this thing just went off my buy list. Won't be conned like that again. That said, still give them props for going for the M rating. However, they shouldn't be allowed to tout a console portable game as an MMO - such a thing can't exist.
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 09:25 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | | I1) Talked to a guy in Vanguard who was in the closed beta - basically summarized that it was about as finished as Vanguard was upon launch (alpha stage more or less). |
Well right off the bat I can tell you, whatever this guys thinks, he is exaggerating big time. Vanguard was an absolute disaster! No getting around that fact. AoC may not be completely polished but from having played the Beta myself I can tell you, it's in a far far more finished state than Vanguard. A few features may be missing, but it will be playable.
| Immunity wrote: | | Zones are fairly boxed in, and it felt more like an MMO FPS than RPG. Lots of mindless clicking. He said the closest thing he could compare the combat to was Dark Messiah of Might and Magic but faster. Also that character customization was on the light side. |
True about the zones, although they have removed many invisible walls that were there was mere Beta restrictions.
Clicking? combat doesn't require you to click your mouse at all. It's the least 'clicky' game I've played. And combat like Dark Messiah? that's a bad thing??! that game had the best melee combat in a game yet! AoC isn't entirely like that, but it's certainly toward that style.. moving away from auto-attacks, and more toward real interaction.
| Immunity wrote: |
3) Age of Conan is coming to X360. Sorry, but you can't have an MMO on a console. |
Final Fantasy XI? Being on the PS2 never hurt that game none.
Excessive instancing does concern me aswell, but I haven't experienced and ins and outs of it, so I'm keeping an open mind for now.
I'd highly suggest trying it yourself before writing the game off.
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shadak
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 09:43 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | I'll admit - when I first took a look at this game I was fairly intrigued. The classes looked interesting, the setting was fairly unique, and it looked beautiful graphically. Add to that the fact that the developers had enough balls to go for the M rating, and it pretty much had me sold.
However, the more I dug the grimmer the picture became:
1) Talked to a guy in Vanguard who was in the closed beta - basically summarized that it was about as finished as Vanguard was upon launch (alpha stage more or less).
Zones are fairly boxed in, and it felt more like an MMO FPS than RPG. Lots of mindless clicking. He said the closest thing he could compare the combat to was Dark Messiah of Might and Magic but faster. Also that character customization was on the light side.
2) As I started reading more and more about it - player cities that were instanced etc. etc. I couldn't help but get that shitty feeling I get when something doesn't smell right - kinda like when they touted Guild Wars as a Free to play MMO. Sorry, but an MMO does not have 80% of its stuff instanced.
and finally the kicker and killer....
3) Age of Conan is coming to X360. Sorry, but you can't have an MMO on a console. That alone speaks volumes about the depth of this game (or lack thereof). Guild Wars was in no way an MMO, and me thinks neither is this. More false advertising and bullshit claims.
Until I see otherwise , this thing just went off my buy list. Won't be conned like that again. That said, still give them props for going for the M rating. However, they shouldn't be allowed to tout a console portable game as an MMO - such a thing can't exist. |
Did you play the beta or at least the PVP weekend? If not you shud try to get your hands on it.. you might change your opinion after that:)
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 09:52 Post subject: |
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| Radamez wrote: |
Final Fantasy XI? Being on the PS2 never hurt that game none.
Excessive instancing does concern me aswell, but I haven't experienced and ins and outs of it, so I'm keeping an open mind for now.
I'd highly suggest trying it yourself before writing the game off. |
Final Fantasy XI? PS2? Come on now, don't tell me we're going to have to dip our standards that low. Consoles are not conducive to MMOs. It's just not natural and simply doesn't work.
As for trying it before writing it off - yea, you're absolutely right. However, in order to try an MMO (or so called MMO in this case), you kinda gotta buy it. Thus, eliminating the whole purpose of trying 
I'd like to be pleasantly surprised by this title, I really would, nothing would make me happier. However, I'm not George W. Bush....fool me once.....
Also, not to get off topic but just so you know Radamez,
Vanguard in Jan. 2007 = alpha
October 2007 = beta
April 2008 = The game it was supposed to be.
They've really shaped it up, give it another shot. I did, and am glad 
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 10:04 Post subject: |
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hey that open beta (fileplanet) every day they bring out keys right until 30 april
but if i have my key today can i already play or can i just play on 1 may?
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 10:28 Post subject: |
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| matisto21 wrote: | hey that open beta (fileplanet) every day they bring out keys right until 30 april
but if i have my key today can i already play or can i just play on 1 may? |
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 12:28 Post subject: |
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Final Fantasy XI? PS2? Come on now, don't tell me we're going to have to dip our standards that low. Consoles are not conducive to MMOs. It's just not natural and simply doesn't work. |
did you ever play ffxi? i thought it was a good mmo, it had alot of nice features that no mmos have bothered with since
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 14:55 Post subject: |
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The game can be played perfectly well with a gamepad, anyway.
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Apr 2008 23:52 Post subject: |
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I could do with a key as well if anybody got spare.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008 01:23 Post subject: |
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is this one of those MMO pay to play or pay once
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008 13:22 Post subject: |
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just to be clear is this game multi player only or single player too?
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008 13:24 Post subject: |
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| gold24 wrote: | | just to be clear is this game multi player only or single player too? |
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008 14:37 Post subject: |
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can someone who pre-orderd the game explain me something...
lets say i pre orderd it from ebgames when and where do i pay the extra 5$ to pre download the client on 14 may???
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008 15:15 Post subject: |
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All I got to say is that I am glad i got to try it.
I won't be picking it up at releae.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008 15:35 Post subject: |
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| HoLyMaN wrote: | can someone who pre-orderd the game explain me something...
lets say i pre orderd it from ebgames when and where do i pay the extra 5$ to pre download the client on 14 may??? |
You can create an account with Funcom on May 2nd, and you pay the 5 dollars to funcom. That 5 dollars also buys you 10 additional days of play time.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008 15:55 Post subject: |
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hey that beta you can signup to from fileplanet do you also need to pay for the game on 1 may or is that free? and also how long can you play that beta?
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008 16:19 Post subject: |
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| matisto21 wrote: | | hey that beta you can signup to from fileplanet do you also need to pay for the game on 1 may or is that free? and also how long can you play that beta? |
you don't have to pay for the file planet beta client, and it lasts until retail launch.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008 17:52 Post subject: |
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| noxxle wrote: | | HoLyMaN wrote: | can someone who pre-orderd the game explain me something...
lets say i pre orderd it from ebgames when and where do i pay the extra 5$ to pre download the client on 14 may??? |
You can create an account with Funcom on May 2nd, and you pay the 5 dollars to funcom. That 5 dollars also buys you 10 additional days of play time. |
Is a similar deal open to the European market?
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008 18:28 Post subject: |
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| [sYn] wrote: | | noxxle wrote: | | HoLyMaN wrote: | can someone who pre-orderd the game explain me something...
lets say i pre orderd it from ebgames when and where do i pay the extra 5$ to pre download the client on 14 may??? |
You can create an account with Funcom on May 2nd, and you pay the 5 dollars to funcom. That 5 dollars also buys you 10 additional days of play time. |
Is a similar deal open to the European market? |
Probably. Check the official forums though because I am not sure. http://forums.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008 18:40 Post subject: |
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How does the game play on older machines? Any of you out there with a slightly older computer willing to share how it runs with all settings set to low? I'm aware it is in beta and optimizing is nowhere finished.
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