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 Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 00:35 Post subject: ESA, MPAA, RIAA targetting uploaders on Usenet |
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This was a shockin news for poeple on my site when one of our uploaders (PS2 games) received a kind of threatning email from Giganews yesterday.
This is your one-time Notice of copyright Infringement.
Giganews has received Notice from a copyright owner, or its Agent, that you, or someone using your account, have posted copies of unauthorized copyrighted material. Stop immediately.
Please review our Terms and Conditions, which you agreed to at the time you signed up for service with Giganews (http://www.giganews.com/info/terms.html).
Posting copyrighted material to Giganews' servers without the permission of the copyright holder, violates our Terms of Service, and subjects your account to immediate cancellation and forfeiture of any pre-paid money remaining on your account.
You will not receive any further notice should you, or anyone using your account, again post copyrighted materials without permission of the copyright holder. Your account will be canceled the moment we get notice that additional materials have been posted.
This is your only and last warning. Stop posting copyrighted materials to Giganews' servers or your account will be canceled without further notice.
We have suspended the posting privileges on your account. We will consider reactivating posting privileges only after you reaffirm, in a clear, unqualified, and unambiguous manner, your future compliance with the Terms of Service for Giganews service, and that no further unauthorized and/or infringing copyrighted material will be posted to our servers through your account.
We must receive a reply of compliance within 3 days from the date of this email or we may further consider your Giganews account for a permanent posting restriction, or account termination at our discretion.
We now send these one-time notices out for every received notice of infringement. If you are receiving this after having previously providing affirmation of compliance, we will investigate your actions to determine if they warrant account termination.
Sincerely,
Giganews DMCA Team
dmca@giganews.com
Attached to this email was the original complaint:
Date of Infringement: 21 Mar 2008 17:43:38 GMT
Dear Giganews:
The Entertainment Software Association ("ESA") is a U.S. trade association that represents the intellectual property interests of numerous companies that publish interactive games for video game consoles, personal computers, handheld devices and the Internet (hereinafter collectively referred to as "ESA members"). ESA is authorized to act on behalf of ESA members whose copyright and other intellectual property rights it believes to be infringed as described herein.
ESA is providing this notice pursuant to the Section 512 of Title 17 of the U.S. Code (as enacted by the 'Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act') to make Giganews aware that the IP Address identified below is using the services and systems of Giganews to infringe the exclusive copyright and other rights of one or more ESA members. This notice is addressed to you as the agent designated by Giganews to receive notifications of claimed infringement.
Based on the information at its disposal on 21 Mar 2008 17:43:38 GMT, ESA has a good faith belief that the subscriber using the IP address ******* is infringing the copyright rights of one or more ESA members by copying and distributing unauthorized copies of game products (through peer-to-peer or similar software/services), in violation of applicable copyright laws, through internet access that Giganews provides directly to the ******** or through a downstream provider that purchases this access for *********. The copyrighted works that have been infringed include but are not limited to:
Title: LEGO Star Wars: The Video Game
Infringement Source: Usenet
Infringement Timestamp: 21 Mar 2008 17:43:38 GMT Infringement Last Documented: 21 Mar 2008 17:43:38 GMT Infringer Username:
Infringing Filename: [4241]-[#altbin@EFNet]-[FULL]-[Lego_Star_Wars_Usa_PS2-GAMEOVER]-[01/52]"Lego_Star_Wars_Usa_PS2-GAMEOVER.par2" yEnc (1/1) Infringing Filesize: 686652605
This user got is uploading rights removed when he received the email so now the question is, is this the end, does all those associations will start threatning Usenet providers and then what, forced them to give the personal infomations about the users so they can sue them???
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 00:38 Post subject: |
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last I knew giganews won't give out information
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 01:01 Post subject: |
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ESA, MPAA, RIAA... 
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 01:24 Post subject: |
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Looks like I'll be switching providers again, back to my old one. I knew something about Giganews didn't smell right. Fucking suits.
I can never be free, because the shackles I wear can't be touched or be seen.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 01:51 Post subject: |
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Immunity, are you a poster? If not, why do you care?
Besides, Usenet providers know their role in the grand scheme of things. They know that without piracy they are gone too. No worries.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 04:25 Post subject: |
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the only other good provider was usenetserver but their quality has hit rock bottom. shit is always getting corrupted.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 05:17 Post subject: |
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Tainted's law: The quality of a product and/or service is inversely proportional to the amount of people that know about that product/service.
Simple economics: More people start using Usenet for warez, Usenet is seen as a major market by a lot of people, and usenet companies start popping up overnight. Greedy suits pop up to take over the management of the Usenet companies, and they start milking the Usenet cashcow for all its worth, notably decreasing the quality of the service. The newfound Usenet attention draws the attention of the MPAA, and they threaten the profits of the afore-mentioned Usenet companies with lawsuits. Thus, the Usenet companies react to protect themselves, in this case sending out warning letters. Thus, the quality hits a new low, and keeps on getting lower. In a year or so people will start migrating to another medium for warez, and the cycle continues...
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 08:20 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | Immunity, are you a poster? If not, why do you care?
Besides, Usenet providers know their role in the grand scheme of things. They know that without piracy they are gone too. No worries. |
Very true, all they give a toss about is money. This letter and others is just to cover thier own backs and to placate the movie/game bigwigs
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 08:59 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | Immunity, are you a poster? If not, why do you care?
Besides, Usenet providers know their role in the grand scheme of things. They know that without piracy they are gone too. No worries. |
Has nothing to do with whether I post or not - it's simply disconcerting to know that they are so easily willing to roll over. Who knows what other info they will offer up if pressured?
They've lost my respect and my business.
I can never be free, because the shackles I wear can't be touched or be seen.
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Grale
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 09:24 Post subject: |
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I've been with Giga for 3 years now, i'm not uploading so until my service gets affected i'm not moving, or they start handing out warnings about downloading aswell. but they are not alowed to do that, are they !!
I tried many providers and Giga have been awesome, i always get my max download speeds...
But this is bad news, could this be the start of the end of the usenets!! i don't think so
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 10:26 Post subject: Re: ESA, MPAA, RIAA targetting uploaders on Usenet |
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| Kommando wrote: | | This user got is uploading rights removed when he received the email so now the question is, is this the end, does all those associations will start threatning Usenet providers and then what, forced them to give the personal infomations about the users so they can sue them??? |
As Psykez said, Giganews does not give out information.
The real question is really: Is this story verified and true?
In either case it is strange that such companies are allowed to monitor traffic and drop everything that is called due process. There was a company that tried this in Norway, but their activities were dismissed. Only the police is allowed to do this here. |
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Cohen
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 15:40 Post subject: |
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It would be pretty ghey if those 4 diamond accounts where pulled the plug on over a rumour.. you are 100% sure of these claims, yes?
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 16:28 Post subject: |
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Wonder how valid this post is. It sounds valid but ya never know...hopefully its not true.
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repo1
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 16:53 Post subject: |
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I'm surprised this didn't happen earlier. I don't why everyone bangs on about usenet being so great, IMO it's the most dangerous and weak system there is. Most people pay with their credit cards so they have access to your details very easily. And do you think a company will ignore a subpoena and risk losing the business, or will they just offer up some sacrificial lambs? The only thing driving it is people's egos so there is not much incentive for people to keep uploading under threats like this (unless they are secretly getting paid by usenext or whoever).
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 18:17 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: |
The real question is really: Is this story verified and true? |
| watergem wrote: | | It would be pretty ghey if those 4 diamond accounts where pulled the plug on over a rumour.. you are 100% sure of these claims, yes? |
Yes its true, the person in question is a moderator on one of my sites and also a big uploader. At first we thought it was a prank from a moron sending fake emails but the sending adress was the real one from giganews and also when we tried to upload with Yenc, it says yenc error "440 uploading not allowed"
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 18:26 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | Immunity, are you a poster? If not, why do you care?
Besides, Usenet providers know their role in the grand scheme of things. They know that without piracy they are gone too. No worries. |
Has nothing to do with whether I post or not - it's simply disconcerting to know that they are so easily willing to roll over. Who knows what other info they will offer up if pressured?
They've lost my respect and my business. |
If MPAA or RIAA want to come to IL just to arrest me, they are more than welcome to try. Maybe 'Land of the "Free"' users should be afraid, but worldwide users just shouldn't care. Nobody recognizes MPAA or RIAA as authorities outside of US  |
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 18:44 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | the only other good provider was usenetserver but their quality has hit rock bottom. shit is always getting corrupted. |
That's the one i use.
These companys will soon go out of business.
How many ppl use newsgroups just for downloading games,films,apps etc...?
I'd say 80% of them,that leaves 20% of customers if this happens.
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 18:56 Post subject: |
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Ya I and I just canceled my account. I'm tired of their bullshit. The past year their "completion" rate has been a joke. And when I get a hold of their support about it, it's oh well that group got corrupted so were not going to reimburse you or anything. I've gotten ahold of them about 6 times now about this crap and each time it's been a new excuse with me getting nothing in return. I'll gladly pay double the amount.
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Cohen
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 19:09 Post subject: |
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lol, just buy a rapidshare premium account..
I stopped using usenet really, since I can get everything I need from a few RS link forums.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 19:26 Post subject: |
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No proper (i.e. HDBits) HD releases, so RS sucks. 
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 19:38 Post subject: |
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RS sucks period since everyoen tampers with the rar's
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 19:39 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | RS sucks period since everyoen tampers with the rar's |
Never had any problem with RS, and I use it extensively.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 19:46 Post subject: |
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If you know where to get your links from, you get proper stuff from RS. The problem is the content (or rather the lack of).
I do however get all my 0day apps from RS, just much more easier than looking for in Usenet or torrents.
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 20:32 Post subject: |
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Been using newshosting.com for several years, no problems whatsoever except retention is only ~80 days...
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 20:42 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | Been using newshosting.com for several years, no problems whatsoever except retention is only ~80 days... |
the NHXL ones don't seem too bad, only 5 bucks more than usenetserver, how's their completion rate? everyone says 99% which is a lie. |
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Apr 2008 20:46 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | nouseforaname wrote: | | Been using newshosting.com for several years, no problems whatsoever except retention is only ~80 days... |
the NHXL ones don't seem too bad, only 5 bucks more than usenetserver, how's their completion rate? everyone says 99% which is a lie. |
98-99%. Probably the last 100 GBs or so I've downloaded have been 100% complete as well.
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