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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 19:46 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

@JBeckman yep this was a bit tedious to apply the patch several times, even if with a full directory backup reverting was rather quick. @ Nui Actually I use the pc xbox 360 controller and it is far better with it than with the keyboard+mouse, that game is really made for gamepads, and to play it otherwise would be like trying to play a FPS with the latter.

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 20:47 Post subject:

$en$i wrote:

Actually I use the pc xbox 360 controller and it is far better with it than with the keyboard+mouse, that game is really made for gamepads, and to play it otherwise would be like trying to play a FPS with the latter. Wink

I can imagine, that a lot of people prefer a gamepad for this game. I'm not one of them, because i'm way more used to a keyboard - play Mario 64 way better with a keyboard for example Laughing

And I don't really see a significant argument pro gamepad, as i can prolly do anything just as good with a gamepad or just avoid a problem. Its not like the keyboard+mouse config is less precise. You just have to make use of your mouse to look in the direction you want to go and your set. Although this way obviously eliminates a precise movement in every other direction, but i don't care to much about that Wink

Anyway, the 'gamepad vs. keyboard mouse' was just about the togglefeature in the control settings, i think.

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 20:49 Post subject:

|IcedFreon| wrote:

its going to be beyond hilarious when all you (sorry i cant come up with a nicer word) morons complaining about "black bars" will see the same thing in the final since its a 16:9 game running on either 16:10, 5:4 or 4:3 resolutions.

The fact that is a 16:9 means nothing. All pc games are made to support every format.

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 20:59 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Ah forgot that i also wanted to talk about the b² (blackbars ) So as long a dev actually thought about it and wants to have certain aspect ratio to provide a better ... something (atmo maybe ) i will gladly accept it, BUT as far as i can see there is no game on the market where my stated condition actually applies and given the fact that is most likely relatively easy to provide the user with a choice in this regard, they should just implement every standard ratio for satans sake.

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 20:59 Post subject:

WalkerBoh wrote:

|IcedFreon| wrote:

The fact that is a 16:9 means nothing. All pc games are made to support every format.

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 21:35 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Yes Freon morons is the correct word... @ WalkerBoh What part of Port do you not understand? They don't give a damn about PC Version, Port and it's done.

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 21:45 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Ahahaha can't believe the blackbars (b²) drama still goes on... My IMDb Ratings \| Fix NFOHump Cookies \| Hide Users / Threads \| Embedded Content (Videos/GIFs/Twitter/Reddit) \| The Derps Collection Death smiles at us all; all we can do is smile back.

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 21:46 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Ditto, waist of energy and OUR time!

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 22:25 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

not to speak of all the server bandwidth!

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 22:36 Post subject:

|IcedFreon| wrote:

How is a shitty port hilarious? And what the hell is a "16:9 game"? Are games bounded by screen ratio now? Rolling Eyes

Sorry, but you are the moron (that's actually a good word to describe you).

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 22:48 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

ugh. its hilarious that the people complaining think it will change in the final. and yes its a 16:9 game since its a console port and TV's arent 16:10 duh. so if youre in that OMG WHY DO I HAVE BLACK BARS crowd then you sir are the moron. Last edited by \|IcedFreon\| on Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 22:49; edited 1 time in total

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 22:48 Post subject:

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Ahahaha can't believe the blackbars (b²) drama still goes on...

then go the the condemned topic it was the beginning of the bitching bar saga Laughing

damn whats wrong with the sheepeople today don't they love the cinematic look

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 22:49 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

And some of you are pretty mean I will laugh with Freon if this b² drama continues after release

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2008 23:01 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

I can understand people with crappy 5:4 monitors whining about extra huge bars, but on a 16:10 they are tiny so it's ok. C2D E6750 @ 3.2Ghz, 4GB 800MHz DDR2 4-4-4-12, GeForce GTX 260 c216 OC 896MB, 3.2TB, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Xbox 360 Elite, PS2 Slim, Xbox

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 00:43 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

In what way are 16:10 superior to normal monitors?

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 00:48 Post subject:

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In what way are 16:10 superior to normal monitors?

They have smaller black bars in AC? Laughing

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 00:49 Post subject:

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In what way are 16:10 superior to normal monitors?

What's a normal monitor? Because for me 16:10 is normal.

If you meant 16:10 vs 5:4 then there are some significant advantages:

-In games with proper widescreen support you see more than nubs with their 5:4 or 4:3 boxes. Especially nice in multiplayer.

-In movies and tv shows you see very little bars because it's very close to 16:9

-Horizontal human eyesight is wider than vertical.

-You can have two application windows side by side with reasonable amount of workspace for each.

-Widescreen is now and future. 5:4 and 4:3 is yesterdays technology.

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 00:57 Post subject:

Glottis wrote:

fawe4 wrote:

In what way are 16:10 superior to normal monitors?

What's a normal monitor? Because for me 16:10 is normal.

A joke?

Just explain in what way are crappy monitors superior to your normal ones.

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 00:58 Post subject:

fawe4 wrote:

Glottis wrote:

fawe4 wrote:

In what way are 16:10 superior to normal monitors?

What's a normal monitor? Because for me 16:10 is normal.

A joke?

Just explain in what way are crappy monitors superior to your normal ones.

I did, learn to read please. And no it's no joke, for me 16:10 is normal.

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 01:12 Post subject:

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I did, learn to read please. And no it's no joke, for me 16:10 is normal.

I did, I replied to your unedited post.

Glottis wrote:

In what way are 16:10 superior to normal monitors?
If you meant 16:10 vs 5:4 then there are some significant advantages:

In games with proper widescreen support you see more than nubs with their 5:4 or 4:3 boxes. Especially nice in multiplayer.

And there are almost no games with 'proper widescreen' suport, are they?

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-In movies and tv shows you see very little bars because it's very close to 16:9

That's true, even most tv shows are in ws now.

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-Horizontal human eyesight is wider than vertical.

Last time I checked text in books and newspapers were in portrait orientation, human apparently reads better when columns are narrower.

Now, what about web browsing? Or about old games? Or about desktop publishing?

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 01:21 Post subject:

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Now, what about web browsing? Or about old games? Or about desktop publishing?

Your questions are ridiculous. Have you never used a widescreen monitor? School? Job? Friends? no?

Once you go widescreen you don't go back.

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 01:25 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

70 pages with a childish discussion about widescreen or not......wtf?......can you guys get over it.....either way!!

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 01:29 Post subject:

Glottis wrote:

fawe4 wrote:

Now, what about web browsing? Or about old games? Or about desktop publishing?

Your questions are ridiculous. Have you never used a widescreen monitor? School? Job? Friends? no?

Once you go widescreen you don't go back.

I'm just saying it's not so bloody superior as some like to portray them.

Anyway, thyttel is right.

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 01:30 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

The reason for the black bars are simple. SO they would NOT have to redo the HUD and all the menu art and stuff, which is originally made to be in 16:9. In 16:10 or 4:5 and whatever, the HUD and menus would be stretched out. Since the resolution cannot be changed on those things.

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 01:52 Post subject:

Glottis wrote:

fawe4 wrote:

Now, what about web browsing? Or about old games? Or about desktop publishing?

Your questions are ridiculous. Have you never used a widescreen monitor? School? Job? Friends? no?

Once you go widescreen you don't go back.

Actually, I tried Crysis on a widescreen monitor then went back to my 15 inch TFT :/

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 02:10 Post subject:

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In games with proper widescreen support you see more than nubs with their 5:4 or 4:3 boxes. Especially nice in multiplayer.

And there are almost no games with 'proper widescreen' suport, are they?

Most do have. Maybe you played only one game in your life?

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 02:10 Post subject:

Glottis wrote:

fawe4 wrote:

Now, what about web browsing? Or about old games? Or about desktop publishing?

Your questions are ridiculous. Have you never used a widescreen monitor? School? Job? Friends? no?

Once you go widescreen you don't go back.

They are actually very pertinent, ever noticed while browsing in a widescreen, all that blanc space in the sides? It's just a waste. For normal web browsing and office work 4:3 or 5:4 are still better. in gaming and specially in movies 16:10 is better. But that's all beside the point. We, as pc gamers, with different cpu's, graphic cards and monitors should be able to select the best settings for us. Like we choose graphic details etc.
I don't see how someone can disagree with that, and that only a shitty port would restrict to 16:9, I suspect you are not actually morons, just trools, not that different but...

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2008 02:13 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Don't know what sites you guys are surfing in, but on my laptop all sites take full advantage of the WS monitor... This is seriously getting ... My IMDb Ratings \| Fix NFOHump Cookies \| Hide Users / Threads \| Embedded Content (Videos/GIFs/Twitter/Reddit) \| The Derps Collection Death smiles at us all; all we can do is smile back.