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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 23:48    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
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Mchart wrote:
I've been lucky enough with Bluetooth and iOS 8. Still works better then the latest version of Android on my One M8.


Bluetooth for Apple products is shit, i can pair any bluetooth device with android devices (and none apple products). If i try to sync my laptop with my iphone it doesnt sync on the iphones part.

Tried it in a shop (galaxy s4 and s5 to sync with a iphone 4 and 5...everything fails).


And from my experience Bluetooth for Apple products /isn't/ shit. I've owned three different cars with different head units and Bluetooth pairing worked flawlessly with each one. It also pairs with my Dell laptop Bluetooth without any issue.

The fact is that there are problems with either. Given my poor experience with Android on the M8 it's proof enough that either software has issues.

Or maybe, just maybe, it's because the head units you've head were the typical iDevice compatible pieces of shit, like I told you a while ago.

I've paired lots of phones and BT devices together without any issues. In most cases paired because someone else had these phones and we wanted to play some of their music over my sound system. Pairing with my Macbook or my PC has never been an issue with anything.

On my current head unit (Pioneer DEH X8600BT):
- LG Optimus L3-II + Optimus L7 (both ICS)
- Xperia E + Xperia SP (both ICS)
- HTC Desire (Gingerbread)
- Nexus 4 (ICS)
- Galaxy S4, S5
- iPhone 4, 4S (iOS 6 and 7)

The L3, L7, Xperia E are all low-end devices, the Desire is old as fuck and still worked fine with my current head unit. And I bet I can grab the old Hero and pair it to my head unit without a single hitch right now.

On my previous head unit (Pioneer DEH...4600BT I think? Can't remember):
- HTC Hero (Froyo) + Desire (GB)
- iPhone 4
- Xperia SP
- Galaxy S4

Multiple Parrot CK3100's in multiple cars (my dad's, my neighbour's, my old car, my brother's and my cousin's):
- All of the above, pretty much.

In all cases phonebooks synced flawlessly, music worked with almost all of them on the head units, the only one that was a little problematic was the L3-II. A restart fixed that one though.

And you know what head units failed? Multiple Alpine head units and the fancy €300 manufacturer BT integrations (the VW one for the T5 platform costs like €249 - just for phone capabilities, not even streaming ). From low end (CDE-125BT I think it is) to very high end (INE-W977BT) and there's always issues with them. Alpine only really pay attention to Apple compatibility by cable, BT support on them is terrible - even with iOS. And Alpine used to be considered a premium brand (some people still do, for me they rank lower than Marquant these days).

Fact is that when it comes to head units, there's a lot of dogshit out there. Alpine, JVC/Kenwood, Philips all have terrible software and will not work with an awful lot of devices. The former two do integrate well with iOS; via a cable. Sony and Pioneer generally work well; a little less for Sony, they've slipped a little in recent years. Pioneer (*knocks on wood*) has so far not failed me with BT, although there are some things which are limited to Samsung devices on Android because a filthy deal they've got (MirrorLink used to be Samsung only; still is on every other brand besides Pioneer). And then there's the OEM builders, like Blaupunkt. Again, generally speaking just very buggy all around. From using flash drives to BT integration, it's all hit and miss.

But hey, you had lots of issues with your head units, so clearly there's something wrong in the base Android software. I must've been the luckiest bastard on the planet then.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I bet all of your head units have had full iPod compatibility, yet lacked even basic AVRCP when paired with Android. Don't get me wrong, there have been issues with Android's BT implementation and it's certainly not out of the question that some devices don't work well with specific software versions (bad BT radio on the S4 comes to mind, was fixed with an update a few days later though) - but that's not down to Android itself and your _one_ Android device certainly isn't a measure to make a bullshit claim like that. And most certainly not when it comes to pairing with head units.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Oct 2014 23:58    Post subject:
No, had full compatibility. The issues were more bugs with audio randomly cutting out, not pairing or phone book issues.

Just keep assuming and making up problems though. That's cool.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Oct 2014 00:12    Post subject:
Making assumptions and making up problems? Like you with your "I had problems with my M8 and thus Android has BT issues"?

No, your M8 might've had issues. Or your head unit(s) did. But it wasn't down to Android itself. Like I said, Apple probably broke the radio firmware this time, which is something some Android phone manufacturers have done too. But since Gingerbread, Android itself has not had any inherent BT issues. They have all been down to bad radio firmware or in some cases, apps themselves (Spotify for Android for example is a steaming pile of shit still). The big difference in this case is that an iOS update is tied to the radio. Apple produces both. On Android, 50% of it is down to the manufacturers themselves with the radio firmware and the driver for it.

And my ranting about head units is entirely correct, for the record. I've had and used more head units than most people ever will and the majority of them are shit, absolutely not worth the ridiculous prices they ask for them.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 20:00    Post subject:
iOS 8.1 is out

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iOS 8.1 is available immediately as an over-the-air download and after updating, it will allow iPhone 6 and 6 Plus owners to access Apple Pay, Apple's new payment service. With Apple Pay, the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus can be used to make payments in both retail stores that support NFC and participating apps.

Also included in iOS 8.1 is support for SMS relay, a Continuity feature designed to allow Macs (running Yosemite) and iOS devices like iPads to receive SMS messages routed through a user's iPhone. Instant Hotspot is also enabled through the iOS 8.1 update, letting Mac users remotely activate the Personal Hotspot capabilities of an iPhone when two devices are near each other.

Along with those major features, iOS 8.1 reinstates the Camera Roll, which was removed with iOS 8, and it gives all iOS 8 users access to iCloud Photo Library, Apple's new cloud-based photo storage solution. The removal of the Camera Roll turned out to be a controversial decision, with Apple opting to re-add it after iOS users asked for the feature to be returned.

iOS 8 has not been Apple's smoothest software release, with users encountering quite a few bugs in the operating system. While multiple issues were fixed with iOS 8.0.2, released in late September, iOS 8.1 fixes several other bugs, including a problem that caused some iOS 8 users to have trouble pairing their phones with their Bluetooth devices.


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 20:33    Post subject:
does it fix the bending?


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 20:46    Post subject:
Haha photo roll is reinstated.

Fuck you Apple you silly twats.


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 22:32    Post subject:
Does it fix the WiFi connectivity issues ? Damn iOS8 played silly buggers with my iPad. Could not get the Sonos app to stay connected to my Sonos system. Drop it back down to 7.1.2 and all is good again. So I'm a little wary about upgrading now...

*Edit: Nope according to the Apple forums. Still craps out. 66 pages of the same issue with countless other threads on the forum with regards to the WiFi crapping out. You'd think someone at Apple would look into it... Hoping against hope really :-/


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 23:09    Post subject:
I'd rather wait a bit more, had some issues with Wifi already but got those fixed quite fast. Don't wanna make things worse...


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Oct 2014 03:59    Post subject:
Yah my WiFi has been completely fucked since my new phone arrived. Drops it near everyday and refuses to even see the network again until I reboot. Even sometimes a reboot doesn't fix it and I have to do the whole "Reset network settings" path. Fuckers!


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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Oct 2014 17:38    Post subject:
And Pangu team released ios 8 and 8.1 JB Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 03:19    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
And Pangu team released ios 8 and 8.1 JB Very Happy


Wow..great news. I've had an old Iphone 4 for 5 or 6 years now and loved it jailbroken. But through my parents, I can get AT&T at half price so the wife and I was going to switch and get new iphone 6's too..wasn't looking forward to no more pandora downloader in the car..but if the JB is released already, I'll be happy again! Smile (I know I know..first-world problems..)
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 15:05    Post subject:
DAMN! Awesome. Smile

Finally time to update my iPad Air, since the AppStore is ALLLL sorts of fucked up on it. If I go to the app update section, not only does it tell me to update my apps that were already updated, if I try to tap "Update" on anything it simply opens the app instead.

AND the "Update All" button is gone!


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2014 21:26    Post subject:
sTo0z wrote:
DAMN! Awesome. Smile

Finally time to update my iPad Air, since the AppStore is ALLLL sorts of fucked up on it. If I go to the app update section, not only does it tell me to update my apps that were already updated, if I try to tap "Update" on anything it simply opens the app instead.

AND the "Update All" button is gone!


Same here. I guess it's Apples way to tell you "update now you mofo".


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Oct 2014 07:44    Post subject:
Does everyone have lag in safari when inputting something into the address bar? Started with iOS 8 and unfortunately hasn't gotten fixed yet.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Oct 2014 12:17    Post subject:
Haven't really noticed it on the iphone 6, but I can imagine on older phones it could be the case. Which model are you using?


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Oct 2014 13:05    Post subject:
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In a Bloomberg Businessweek column, Apple CEO Tim Cook announces he's gay.

apple support in eastern Europe and Russia will plummet Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Oct 2014 13:39    Post subject:
You always seem to post interesting discussion posts.

May I suggest to post in one of those "I almost shit myself" threads we have in The Bitching Section because that's only thing your posts have in common.


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Oct 2014 19:43    Post subject:
tw1st wrote:
Haven't really noticed it on the iphone 6, but I can imagine on older phones it could be the case. Which model are you using?



Ipad Air gen1. Its basically choppy framerate when you input an address or search string. When you turn off transparency it goes away, but then everything looks like ass Smile I did do a clean install with no difference. It's a 16gb model with probably 6 gig free.
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Oct 2014 01:01    Post subject:
W123 wrote:
Does everyone have lag in safari when inputting something into the address bar? Started with iOS 8 and unfortunately hasn't gotten fixed yet.


Not this, but when opening safari or new page, sometimes half of screen (upper) is black, until i move up or down.
Yeah and gestures sometimes stop working and i need to bring up bottom menu then close it to fix it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 31st Oct 2014 17:39    Post subject:
Just want to confirm FINAL PANGU 1.1.0 JB works perfectly fine on iOS 8.1, no problem whatsoever. Could even update my old iOS devices jailbroken on 7.1.2 from iTunes, without any brick, really funny Smile

so now, iPhone 6 jailbroken Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Nov 2014 09:40    Post subject:
Is there a release of Appsync for ios8 yet. I can't install any apps from tongbu and similar programs.


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Nov 2014 15:54    Post subject:
Install AppCake. Don't ask me why but it works without Appsync. I think it relies on PPSync. that's why. You can then install unsigned IPA.


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PostPosted: Sat, 1st Nov 2014 23:32    Post subject:
Appcake works thanks. I wish the would translate tongbu already. Much easier to download games. However appcake is pretty good.


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Nov 2014 18:36    Post subject:
You guys don't like 25pp?


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Nov 2014 19:55    Post subject:
AppSync Unified has been updated for iOS 8, still beta though, on the angelxwind beta repo.


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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Nov 2014 20:51    Post subject:
So, i am dipping my toes back in iOS after a few years with android.

Now hopefully you guys can help me out a little. There are a few things i will really miss from android, simple things really but important i feel.

Cydia will obviously installed asap to allow the tweaking! is there..

1) a tweak that will allow me to position my springboard icons anywhere on the grid. Android style, i hate having my icons all lined up from top to bottom. I want free reign to scatter them about as i wish with simply dragging and dropping the icon. Is there such a program?

2) is there a tweak to modify how to lock the screen. i.e with my HTC One i used long press on the back button to put the phone to sleep. Could i do this with holding the home button or maybe down volume, or even perhaps other ways.

There will be more, i'll probably find them as i use the phone and realize i can't do certain things.


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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Nov 2014 21:08    Post subject:
For icons, you have stuff like Gridlock.

If you have TouchID, I think you can use activator to make touching the sensor do stuff. Perhaps even volume buttons.
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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Nov 2014 21:25    Post subject:
Thanks Leo.

Gridlock will do the job perfectly.

TouchID, i never thought of using that. That will actually be as good if not better than what i use now.


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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Nov 2014 22:30    Post subject:
Some pretty cool stuff has been done with the TouchID sensor and jb. Just make sure the tweaks work well and shut down temporarily when the OS needs the sensor for its intended purpose - identification.
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