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No......
I see your point though, but I don't think it's a reflection on people as individuals, just what happens when you have unlimited choice.....
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 18:31 Post subject: |
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Thought about it more....
Given that the opinion is with regards to art, it's subjective and so can never be taken as an absolute value, but taken as an average impression, my original point if anything implies that I take my information from the comunity as a whole not from an individual which I think your argument relies on.........
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 18:33 Post subject: |
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| LanceBullet wrote: | No......
I see your point though, but I don't think it's a reflection on people as individuals, just what happens when you have unlimited choice..... |
No to what? There is a clear difference between individuals on this site with regards to their objectivity, yet they are all part of this 'unlimited choice' demographic.
Why would it be a reflection on anything but the individual if they begin acting like a spoilt brat because of a privilege. Do you feel the same way about rich individuals who lose their appreciation for anything other then the grandiose.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 18:39 Post subject: |
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| LanceBullet wrote: | Thought about it more....
Given that the opinion is with regards to art, it's subjective and so can never be taken as an absolute value, but taken as an average impression, my original point if anything implies that I take my information from the comunity as a whole not from an individual which I think your argument relies on......... |
My argument relies on the fact that this community is far removed from the average gamer. If anything it is less representative of the quality of a game considering many games require an investment of time to truly show their quality. Yet because of the 'unlimited choice' dynamic many of these individuals are unwilling to invest time in a game that doesn't instantly satisfy their expectations.
How can you expect to get an objective consensus when you're basing your averages on this.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 18:41 Post subject: |
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FORUM Technique, the post sidetrack........
You can't beat 'subjective' irrespective of how hard you try.....
'I'm saying that I can get a reasonably accurate idea about my subjective opinion about a piece of art before I play it, based on the information I gather from this site....
And I'm right....
And you're wrong.... '
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 18:46 Post subject: |
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Which is the same point that I conceded in my first reply to your response....
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 18:57 Post subject: |
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Jade Raymond Does Germany
Everyone's favourite producer was recently in Berlin at Berlinale 2008 to present 'Not Your Daddy's Game - Why the best movie talent is getting involved in video games'. Touching on numerous topics, including the making of Assassin's Creed, Jade mostly talks about how film industry veterans can get involved with gaming to make better tie-in titles, and original properties.
http://ve3d.ign.com/videos/23091/PC/Assassins-Creed-Directors-Cut-Edition
Jade also reveals that Assassin's Creed has now sold over 6 million copies worldwide.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 19:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 20:56 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 21:59 Post subject: |
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So what do you think? If you dont buy things they will get cheaper? If you dont buy things the industry will continue forever and ever giving you products for nothing?
And again, think further. First, after this principle the price would raise but then they would just "produce" a greater number of, e.g. copys of a certain game. That would lead to a new equation of demand and supply and the price would fall again. And since there are more people who buy their stuff they could lower the price.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 22:12 Post subject: |
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In software price always get lower but too late.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 22:15 Post subject: |
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in mother russia, game is price of 2 years of salary
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 22:33 Post subject: |
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| Kujo08 wrote: | | So what do you think? |
Don't judge, you're not going to change peoples minds anyway and it's boring.............
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 22:47 Post subject: |
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in my experience the price and quality in games have on this decade nearly always been inversely relative
that is, cheap indie games have given me much more value than the latest overpriced supposedly "AAA" title
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Cohen
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 22:49 Post subject: |
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on the interwebz, games are free.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 22:55 Post subject: |
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| watergem wrote: | | on the interwebz, games are free. |
Wait... is there another way to get games?
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 23:25 Post subject: |
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| Kujo08 wrote: | So what do you think? If you dont buy things they will get cheaper? If you dont buy things the industry will continue forever and ever giving you products for nothing?
And again, think further. First, after this principle the price would raise but then they would just "produce" a greater number of, e.g. copys of a certain game. That would lead to a new equation of demand and supply and the price would fall again. And since there are more people who buy their stuff they could lower the price. |
Piracy kinda acts like an antagonist. Publishers can't put high prices in games because then more people will be driven to the "fuck you, i'm gonna pirate it" argument.
Now if piracy was to magically disappear (although i believe even magic can't do that) then publishers would be holding a monopoly in their hands. Nothing would be able to stop them from selling their games at a higher price.
And seriously i feel sorry for anyone that thinks that if it wasn't for piracy games/software/movies/music would be cheaper. I guess people forget that these multinational companies are ran by people in suits that no amount of profit is good enough for them. If more is obtainable, they want it.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Mar 2008 23:48 Post subject: |
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This topic is about ASSASSIN'S CREED, not about PIRACY AND BUYING GAMES.
Go start a new thread about that.
Anyways, can't wait for the proper release/entering Jerusalem!
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Mar 2008 00:10 Post subject: |
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I buy the games i like and bin the rest. As with films too many games look good via the trailer and screenshots and turn out to be complete crap this is why i choose to download games before i use any of my hard earned cash to buy one. I understand that we should all be buying what we use, but, until companies release games that work properly ie dont need patching every 5 minutes people will try before they buy, and i dont blame them. The rising cost is also a major factor in this and it has very little to do with sales more along the lines of pure greedy profit making.
And last but not least my pc wasnt free and neither is having to update its hardware every so often just to play these games, neither is my bandwidth, the software i use or the electricity i use to power these thngs it all costs ME not the big guy sitting at his desk looking out at his new Porsche ,ME , yes i make the choice to have all these things and do what i do but so does he, he has the choice not to roll out 99 crap pieces of software and 1 good one, thats his choice its just my choice not to support him.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Mar 2008 00:17 Post subject: |
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| streetunder wrote: | Jade Raymond Does Germany
Everyone's favourite producer was recently in Berlin at Berlinale 2008 to present 'Not Your Daddy's Game - Why the best movie talent is getting involved in video games'. Touching on numerous topics, including the making of Assassin's Creed, Jade mostly talks about how film industry veterans can get involved with gaming to make better tie-in titles, and original properties.
http://ve3d.ign.com/videos/23091/PC/Assassins-Creed-Directors-Cut-Edition |
She praises AC's story and talk about how it worked so well was because they brought in movie writers right from the initial brainstorming process. She actually says straight out something like "games are becoming more about the story than just some guy jumping around" HAHA. AC - lame story + more varied mission setups = the AC we really wanted. Movie writers stay away from games thx.
EDIT: Think two pirates on a ship ever had a conversation about their influences on the local economy and quality of traded goods? "I just plunder, man get off my back.."
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Mar 2008 00:38 Post subject: |
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| syke247 wrote: |
Think two pirates on a ship ever had a conversation about their influences on the local economy and quality of traded goods? "I just plunder, man get off my back.." |
LMAO!! That is SO my signature ^_^
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Mar 2008 02:31 Post subject: |
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Sorry to party crash here, but as I have been out of the loop for 2 weeks, none of the current releases work...or? Better wait for a proper release...or?
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Cohen
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Mar 2008 02:38 Post subject: |
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yeah non work. Crashes + can not get passed Jerusalem level on either release. Were waiting for PROPER still, but doesnt look like it will be here until april. So for now if you really want to , download RLD version and play the first few levels until you cant go further.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Mar 2008 02:40 Post subject: |
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Cheers man! I am in no hurry. Got the Silent Hunter IV add on, so that will keep me busy for a bit 
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