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 Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008 21:45 Post subject: violence |
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The other day I opened up the morning paper and I saw a friends (in the past) brother in an article.
He had been shot in some gang related thing and died on the street by his car. He died basically right across from my elementary school.
I was 15 yrs older than him. I remember when she (his sister) came to me because he was dl stuff off of Kazaa, mostly porn. He was really young and it was an Indo-Canadian family and they had the net nanny. Back then he knew how to get around it by changing the date and time on the computer. He would let it run all night to get a movie. (I don't know, I have never used it---->mac user but I was aware back then and she was asking me stuff back then) His sister didn't want to get the family involved (very strict) I understand fully. Him and his little Naptster.
He was really smart except that he got caught up in the drug scene. I don't know what he got into but I have an idea.
RIP: Prit
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Jenni
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Nasty stuff.
I thought shootings were rare in Canada.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008 22:21 Post subject: |
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Im sorry for you loss pistolshrimp, drugs do get you into some nasty things Im afraid...
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008 22:24 Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear that Pistol! Very sad!
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008 22:47 Post subject: |
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| Jenni wrote: | Nasty stuff.
I thought shootings were rare in Canada. |
No, not where I am from. We are the drug capital of North America. You should read what UN has to say about our lower east side. 3rd world living conditions by the mass because we have very little social housing and support services.
@everybody else
Thanks for the support but I didn't know him at all. I met him a couple of times as a kid but that was it. I am not upset, it is just that it is close to home.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008 22:56 Post subject: |
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Well, hearing of a kid's death, whatever the relation or circumstances is sad 
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 00:15 Post subject: |
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| Jenni wrote: | Nasty stuff.
I thought shootings were rare in Canada. |
Not in Toronto and the GTA and Vancouver has some rough areas so ive heard. I have a buddy living in Hastings. VA, BC and supposedly its the ghetto and he hears constant shit
@Pistol
Sorry to hear that I've had a few friends end up the same way, tragic to say the least. |
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Cohen
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 00:15 Post subject: |
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Well, sad to hear indeed, remember mr Mackey kids, Drugs are bad mmkay?
Not good to take, not good to get involved with.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 06:11 Post subject: |
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@Syco. It was a gang and drug thing.
Ya Hasting is pretty bad. You have to lock your car doors if you drive through. They open your doors and try to jump in. People pass out in the middle of Main and Hastings right on the road and the cars just kinda go around them. It is really sad actually.
Then we have Whally. That is about a 40 min walk from my place.
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 06:18 Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear it. Lost a close friend to a drug related murder a couple years ago, I can relate.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 06:29 Post subject: |
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It is happening too often, like every week. Last week it was some other dealer, gunned down in front of a stake house. He was going there for an engagement party. Anyway Kenu Reeves was eating dinner with friends when it happened and the restaurant hussled him out the back door for his safety.
I am suppost to go out Sat night. Somewhere sorta new because my old place shut down. Makes me nervous because I won't really know people there. I hope nothing bad happens.
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deelix
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 10:09 Post subject: |
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Sad to hear pistol, how is your old friend doing? Must be tough on ther.
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 16:31 Post subject: |
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Sry to hear that pistol.
We had a Gang death here about 3 weeks ago. They dumped his body like 9 blocks from my house, and i live in a very upscale intercity community. That sort of thing never happened much in Calgary. Times are a changing, sadly.
| Jenni wrote: | | I drunk. I don't fucking care! |
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 20:34 Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the people that want to give support altho I don't need it. Like I said I only knew his sister and that was quite a long time ago. I have lost contact with her and not been in contact with her for many years now. I don't want to be dramatic about it.
| Bigperm wrote: | Sry to hear that pistol.
We had a Gang death here about 3 weeks ago. They dumped his body like 9 blocks from my house, and i live in a very upscale intercity community. That sort of thing never happened much in Calgary. Times are a changing, sadly. |
It does mean something when it is so close to home. It is like 10% of us (the people that we know, brothers/sisters) get into it and they can't get out. To some I guess the lifestyle has become the addiction. Sometimes it is because they make money for people and those people won't let them leave or because they don't have the 'play' to do it.
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008 21:15 Post subject: |
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| Jenni wrote: | Nasty stuff.
I thought shootings were rare in Canada. |
In 2007 in Toronto there were 84 murders: "42 of the murders were shootings, 22 were stabbings, and 14 were caused by trauma (blunt force). The cause of six murders was either unknown or unreleased."
Fuck, there is even a google maps application that shows where they happened and the story that goes with it...
http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/features/2007homicides/
also, there are ~600 per year in Canada, and lets not forget...
| Quote: | Canada's crime rate lowest in 25 years: StatsCan report - Offences down in every province, territory in 2006
More people committed violent offences, such as attempted murder, aggravated assault, assault with a weapon, robbery, kidnapping and forcible confinement. But that was offset by a 10-per-cent drop in the national homicide rate, to 1.85 homicides per 100,000 people. Police reported a total of 605 homicides in 2006, 58 fewer than in 2005. In the preceding two years, the rate had climbed. |
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/07/18/crime-stats.html
and this is interesting, "Suicide is the Leading Cause of Violent, or Accidental Death" in Vancouver (by far)...
http://vicarioustherapy.blogspot.com/2008/01/suicide-is-leading-cause-of-violent-or.html
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Feb 2008 23:50 Post subject: |
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...and another one bits the dust altho he is alive.
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=e33ba354-efb1-40da-8b31-0c42575908e6
He muggled cocaine from BC to Aussie land.
Cocaine goes for $75 a gram, compared with $250 a gram in Australia.
I grew up with this kid and his family. His family was close to my family so the phone call I got was from my mom. She feels sorry for his mom but I figure this is no surprise to her.
Nouse will like this, I got some stats from todays paper. The Province.
I can't post the link because you have to have an online subscription for that story but here it is.
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The Statistics Canada report revealed that for the fourth year in a row gun violence in Canada remaned stale, although more young people are using guns to commit crimes.
Highest rate of gun violence was in Vancouver with 45.3 violent offences involving guns for every 100,000 people
Winnipeg's rate was 43.9
Toronto ranked third with 40.4
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Only 3 cities Ottawa, Quebec City and Hamilton -- fell below the national average of 27.5
The study found that firearm-related violence was more common in the western provinces.
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The courts have to impose minimum sentencing, and we need more interdiction at the borders, as [b]90% of the guns coming illegally into Canada come from the United States/ [b] he {Tim Fanning, Vancouver police const.} said.
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Feb 2008 23:59 Post subject: |
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lol, yeah I am a self-confessed stats whore  There is some interesting stuff in that article...
| Quote: | Adults convicted of a firearm-related violent crime in 2005/2006 were sentenced, on average, to just over four years in prison. This was double the average length of sentences for those convicted of the same violent offence that did not involve a gun.
This difference can be partially attributed to a Criminal Code provision that requires adults convicted of certain violent crimes with a firearm to be subject to mandatory minimum prison sentences. |
| Quote: | Police reported nearly 4,000 robberies and almost 2,400 assaults that were committed with a firearm. However, these types of offences were much more likely to be committed by physical force than with a firearm or any other type of weapon.
Homicide and attempted murder, while fewer in number, were far more likely to be committed with a firearm. Guns were used against about one-third of all victims of attempted murders and homicides in 2006, compared with 14% of victims of robbery and 1% of victims of assault. |
| Quote: | | Canada's 2006 firearm homicide rate was nearly six times lower than the United States. But it was about three times higher than the rate in Australia and six times higher than in England and Wales. The rate of non-firearm homicide was fairly similar in all four countries. |
http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/080220/d080220b.htm
data is a little stale though, from 2006.
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Feb 2008 03:07 Post subject: |
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This is escalation, one group starts to get guns, now another group needs to get guns to compete. It is quite sad, what happened to the good old days?
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