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jcx
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is the retail version better than the beta, and is there anything new in it what the beta didnt have
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 05:51 Post subject: |
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Sorry for that crossmr it's just that this company will have it straighten out. They want to make sure the game is in working condition. After all Stardock wouldn't want a bad rep, look at Galactic Civilizations 2 and how successful it has become.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 07:03 Post subject: |
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Well the tutorials still work at the lowest resolution don't they? Broke down and bought it, just finished the first tutortial. If you really need the tutorials to help you figure out the game lower res and play them. I did it in windowed mode so the horribly low reso wouldn't drive me insane. It's no excuse and they should fix it soon, but it's not game ending.
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crossmr
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 07:35 Post subject: |
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| rampart wrote: | | Sorry for that crossmr it's just that this company will have it straighten out. They want to make sure the game is in working condition. After all Stardock wouldn't want a bad rep, look at Galactic Civilizations 2 and how successful it has become. |
Stardock didn't develop this one, they only published it, there is a difference.
You wouldn't think most companies would want to leave their games in the shape we get them in sometimes, but they do.
Point is, something like tutorials really need to be polished on ship. These are the first things most people will play in a game, and make your first impression. They're also not something most people will still be doing a month or two from now. Most games are sold on release or shortly there after.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 09:29 Post subject: |
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| jcx wrote: | | is the retail version better than the beta, and is there anything new in it what the beta didnt have |
Um.. well compared to b3, it feels completely different. Tho my friend epsilon here told me, that it is quite improved to b4 as well.
I guess the answer to your question is YES, definitely.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 10:13 Post subject: |
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Gotta say the diplomacy aspect is fucking horrible. All the other factions do is constantly ask you to do stuff for them, and if you don't do it then you lose standing with them. Problem is the missions they give you are stupid. Give them 1000 metal or they will hate you, destroy 2 enemy structures, destroy 2 enemy ships. The problem is they are constantly coming in and if you aren't in a position to complete them at the moment, you take a huge penalty in your standing with the other faction. It's pretty much impossible to build up any standing with other factions, so the limited diplomatic choices you have, are useless.
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jcx
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 10:15 Post subject: |
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| csebal wrote: | | jcx wrote: | | is the retail version better than the beta, and is there anything new in it what the beta didnt have |
Um.. well compared to b3, it feels completely different. Tho my friend epsilon here told me, that it is quite improved to b4 as well.
I guess the answer to your question is YES, definitely. |
ok thanks, i guess i have to buy it then because i think the game was pretty good
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 10:18 Post subject: |
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Are the tutorials voiced? If there was anything bad in B3, it was that the tutorials were text only.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 10:49 Post subject: |
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Franneke
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 10:53 Post subject: |
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Pitty i didn't "buy" it yesterday when it was still up at the yarrrr bay 
Can you only buy the game from their website or something? I can't find it anywhere in games shops
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 13:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 14:35 Post subject: |
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| Big_Gun wrote: | | sueil wrote: | | Anyone that has been playing can give us a mini review? I'm thinking of getting it, and would feel better knowing how people that have played the retail version feel about it. |
Supreme Commander meets total annihilation meets Galactic Civilization = great so far. |
Actually, its more like supreme commander meets homeworld meets galciv, but yeah. about right.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 14:44 Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: |
It was stated they're working on it, so they're obviously aware of it, thus I'm not the only person having this issue. Any other brilliant insights?
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Surely there are many who also miss the tutorials, guess why they are working on it. Then again, its just you making an issue out of it not being perfect right from the start.
Its a freakin game, not a tutorial.. if its broken, then try and play the actual game against the easy AI after going through the manual.
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So far the rest of the game isn't working too bad.. except that phase lanes don't work at all like they said in the tutorial. I got the impression that you could travel only along the phase lane, no you can travel well wide of it , which means you have to set up several defenses and keep a fleet at a planet to defend it as there is no ability to really target your defense. Good and bad I suppose.
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I dont see why that bothers you at all. Phase lanes show you the connections between systems. They are not actual tubes you MUST travel throuh, just indicators to show where you can go. If they would be tubes, i would just build an iris at the end of each, and laugh as the stupid pirates bounce off into the void from it. Oh wait, thats stargate, nevermind then.
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I also had a really confused ship that didn't seem to know where it belonged. It was part of a fleet and kept trying to jump to other planets leaving its fleet behind. Even when I told it to go sit with the fleet. I would give it an order then go do something, come back, and wonder where it was. Low and behold its trying to jump far away from the fleet. I ended up scuttling it.
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it might have been a scout frigate, with the explore planet command set to auto. In that case, if it has no active orders, it will start to explore. Thats the only - and most logical - reason i can think of for that behavior.
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I've only played it for about 90 minutes but so far:
It needs some polish. But overall its not too bad. Even on a small game expect to be in it for the long haul. |
Yeah well.. there are no 30 minute games with this one, unless you create a custom galaxy with really just a handful of planets.
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crossmr
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 15:28 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Surely there are many who also miss the tutorials, guess why they are working on it. Then again, its just you making an issue out of it not being perfect right from the start. |
Its not perfect from the start. As I said, tutorials are the first impression and they've failed on them.
| Quote: | | I dont see why that bothers you at all. Phase lanes show you the connections between systems. |
because in the working part of the tutorial it gave me the impression that travel was just along the phase lanes. My point was if you played the tutorial it was easy to be a little unclear on how they worked. It lead to improper defenses in my first conquered planet because I didn't realize you could jump so wide of the phase lanes.
| Quote: | | it might have been a scout frigate, with the explore planet command set to auto. |
and you might be a fanboy trying to make up excuses. It wasn't a scout frigate. It was a light frigate the same as the rest of the ships in the group. The ship obviously had something wrong with it. Because while it was trying to jump, it never successfully would. it would sit on the edge of the system with a path to the next system but never jump, I'd send it back with the group and it would go towards them but then turn around and head back for that one spot again.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 16:19 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | it might have been a scout frigate, with the explore planet command set to auto. |
and you might be a fanboy trying to make up excuses. It wasn't a scout frigate. It was a light frigate the same as the rest of the ships in the group. The ship obviously had something wrong with it. Because while it was trying to jump, it never successfully would. it would sit on the edge of the system with a path to the next system but never jump, I'd send it back with the group and it would go towards them but then turn around and head back for that one spot again. |
Or i might just be the software developer who is sick of people always talking about how a product sucks when they find one little glitch in it, or a flaw somewhere.
Plus i was merely trying to help by giving a possible explanation you can verify. If it wasnt that, well.. it must have been something else. I never said i was sure. Please note:
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN...
Thanks for your useless ranting again.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 16:49 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Are the tutorials voiced? If there was anything bad in B3, it was that the tutorials were text only. |
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Franneke
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 16:54 Post subject: |
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Can you only buy the game at their website or will it be in stores too?
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 17:11 Post subject: |
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it will be in stores as well. I caved in and ordered it online from stardock's...gonna get the boxed copy as well but damn 20$ for shipping :S. Not bad on the download speed though 1.2Mb/s
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Franneke
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 17:15 Post subject: |
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Okay good, cos i don't have a credit card so i can't order anything online.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 17:15 Post subject: |
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I find it funny that a game with no-cd protection is somehow more secured than a game with it. I mean by now you think you should have seen a proper release.
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Franneke
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 17:16 Post subject: |
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| rampart wrote: | | I find it funny that a game with no-cd protection is somehow more secured than a game with it. I mean by now you think you should have seen a proper release. |
LOL, yah youre right. It's taken off of every website i know.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 17:21 Post subject: |
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It does have protection then, they do it through the serial you buy the game with. If the scene guys find a way to prevent Sins accessing their database then we are set. Looks like i will being buying this.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 18:00 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | Are the tutorials voiced? If there was anything bad in B3, it was that the tutorials were text only. |
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text only but the 4 tutorials are really short so its not like theres alot of reading to do
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 20:16 Post subject: |
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so far, settlers 6 was a big problem with his online registration key but eventually someone managed to do something about it ..... i think we will see a release during the next 2 days.... i am really curious what this game has to offer ..... REALLY!!
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 20:46 Post subject: |
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Online registration???
I think the registration is just for getting updates and such. The disc itself is just - install, remove and play. They go through pains to explain the there are no DRM on the discs.
Something else is holding up the release
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 20:50 Post subject: |
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Sins_Of_A_Solar_Empire-PROCYON
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 21:19 Post subject: |
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| blaaaH wrote: | | Sins_Of_A_Solar_Empire-PROCYON |
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008 21:24 Post subject: |
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| vagonite wrote: | Online registration???
I think the registration is just for getting updates and such. The disc itself is just - install, remove and play. They go through pains to explain the there are no DRM on the discs.
Something else is holding up the release |
theres no activation in the download version you just need the serial for online play i dont think it even asked for a serial apart from in the ironclad online thing or whatever its called.
the games all about multiplayer though so anyone who likes it should really buy it.
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