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					|  Posted: Sun, 27th Jan 2008 18:10    Post subject: Interesting Figures - US losses |  |  
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					| http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf
 There was actually MORE military personnel losses in the Clinton years than the Bush years
   
 Annual fatalities of military members while actively serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006:
 
 1980 ......... 2,392
 1981 ......... 2,380
 1984 ......... 1,999
 1988 .......... 1 ,819
 1989 .......... 1,636
 1990 ......... 1,508
 1991 ......... 1,787
 1992 .........1,293
 1993 ......... 1,213
 1994 ......... 1,075
 1995 ..........2,465
 1996 ......... 2,318 Clinton years @13,417 deaths
 1997 ......... 817
 1998 ........ 2,252
 1999 ......... 1,984
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 2000 ......... 1,983
 2001 ......... 890
 2002 ......... 1,007 7 BUSH years @ 9,016 deaths
 2003 ......... 1,410
 2004 .......... 1,887
 2005 ......... 919
 2006.......... 920
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 And when the media claims that poor minorities are forced to join the military and fight the war? It's proven to be false by the statistics.
 
 The latest census of Americans, shows the following distribution of American citizens, by Race:
 
 European descent (White) ....... 69.12%
 Hispanic .... ........................... 12.5%
 Black.................... ..... ........... 12.3%
 Asian ..................................... 3.7%
 Native American .................... . 1.0%
 Other ..................................... 2.6%
 
 Fatalities by Race; over the past three years in Iraqi Freedom:
 
 European descent (white) ..... 74.31%
 Hispanic ............................ 10.74%
 Black ............................ ...... 9.67%
 Asian ................................ . 1.81%
 Native American ................... 1.09%
 Other ................................... 3 3%
 
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					|  Posted: Sun, 27th Jan 2008 18:23    Post subject: Re: Interesting Figures - US losses |  |  
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					|  	  | repo1 wrote: |  	  | And when the media claims that poor minorities are forced to join the military and fight the war? It's proven to be false by the statistics. | 
 
 ummm when they're minorities doesn't it mean there's few of them? so of course there would be a lot of whites in the war as they're the majorities
  still those minorities numbers are HUGE. way more than i expected  shocking  
 
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					|  Posted: Sun, 27th Jan 2008 18:47    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Whites are actually the minority in the world. Anyway, on TV they always show the recruiters "preying" on the inner city kids, and parents in the ghetto weeping about their dead kid who was "forced" into the army because they are poor. It's bullshit.
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					|  Posted: Sun, 27th Jan 2008 18:57    Post subject: |  |  
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					| When you're looking at ratios of minorities in a population you have to take into account the countries overall population ratios. Otherwise the figures are meaningless.
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					|  Posted: Sun, 27th Jan 2008 19:04    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Ethic groups in the US - white 81.7%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.2% (2003 est.)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)
 
 source - https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
 
 Doesn't seem to be any significant over-representation there. Except for slightly lower casualty rates for Blacks and Asians. Contrary to what happens in horror movies.
 
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					| Yup, not much difference there then. A more interesting comparison than race would be class or income group.
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					|  Posted: Sun, 27th Jan 2008 20:38    Post subject: |  |  
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					| I dont know how you guys look at things, but I like to consider everyone equal in terms of human rights. Doesnt matter whether your black, white, hispanic, indian, arabic etc etc Everyone should have the same freedom 
 Its sad thats not the way it is tho
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					|  Posted: Sun, 27th Jan 2008 22:24    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Guarantee you all those figures are fabricated out their ass. They wouldn't disclose the real numbers.
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					| From teh blogpost above:
 For the years 1993-2000 (the eight full years of Bill Clinton's presidency)
 There were a total of: 7,500 military deaths for those in active duty
 (remember: the email claims: 13, 417)
 
 Yes, it's a strangely round number. But it appears to be correct. As
 Casey Stengel once said, "You could look it up..."
 
 For the years of George W. Bush's presidency 2001-2006
 There were a total of: 8,792 military deaths for those in active duty.
 (the email claims: 9,016)
 
 Note! The Bush statistic only includes data through 2006, and a footnote admits that the 2006 data is "preliminary." This number does
 not include any combat deaths for 2007.
 
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