What are good mobos for OCing?
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Theatre_Of_Tragedy




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 10:25    Post subject: What are good mobos for OCing?
I was wondering what a cheap and expensive OC motherboard would be for Intel, hopefully something available in NZ (www.pricespy.co.nz) and perhaps cooling solutions, non liquid, and is ASUS Silent Knight any good or is it all just show? Thanks in advance.


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 11:48    Post subject:
Im guessing youre going for the Core2Duo platform?

In that case, i´d recommend a mobo with a P35 chipset. As you can see, i have a Gigabyte mobo with a P35 chipset, and my cpu is OC´d. Stable as a rock.

And it has a great price. If you want a bit more expensive one, wich should clock even better (if you feel like you need it) and has a little bit better cooling, go for the Gigabyte GA-P35T-DQ6.

Heard alot of praise for that mobo, and since my own runs so great, i can only believe what i hear.

Plus, the P35 mobos support the upcoming 45nm cpus arriving in January.


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Theatre_Of_Tragedy




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 11:58    Post subject:
Yeah sorry just remembered I forgot a few things, I was hoping for a Intel Pentium E 2180 2GHz 800FSB 1MB Cache LGA775 65nm for the cheap OC mobo and a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz LGA775 1066FSB LGA775 Retail Box for the expensive one, and the price range about 100 NZD approximately (77.57 USD approximately) for the cheap one and 300 NZD approximately (232.79 USD approximately) for the expensive one. Thanks again.

EDIT: Looking at the range from both to experiment a bit and what not, I have an AMD at the moment myself but thats only temporary as I didn't really have a good computer at the team and needed something cheap and ASAP, now I'm hoping to go Intel and really experiment, get more out of it.


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 12:15    Post subject:
go for Biostar P35D2-A7 which is cheaper than all other p35 based mobos and works as good

this and e2180 will be good combination if u overclock it up to 3 ghz Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 12:37    Post subject:
The brand new MSI P35 Neo2-FR is a feature stripped version of the neo2 platinum and a very good overclocker for only about 90€.


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 12:41    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
The brand new MSI P35 Neo2-FR is a feature stripped version of the neo2 platinum and a very good overclocker for only about 90€.


lol biostar costs 55 euro Razz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138098

why pay almost twise for the same product unless msi is your shit Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 14:05    Post subject:
I don't think that cheap boards are as suitable for over-clocking as the more expensive. Having said that, the price-performance ratio goes down very quickly the closer you get to the 'top-of-the-line' boards.

The gigabyte board (the one in goatboy's sig Razz) has gotten some good reviews without being ridiculously expensive as have boards from asus (P5kE and others). The biostar reached a maximum fsb of 410 in this review.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/13079/5

That isn't bad if you consider the price but if you're planning on some huge overclocking then that's not the maximum you want to achieve.
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Theatre_Of_Tragedy




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 14:07    Post subject:
Ah, sweet, thanks all, if I decide on making a cheap OC'd PC ill see about getting the Biostar P35D2-A7, now what about cooling? I would prefer something other than liquid cooling, seems a bit of a hassle and I don't really want to go through that yet.




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Theatre_Of_Tragedy




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 14:10    Post subject:
swingman wrote:
I don't think that cheap boards are as suitable for over-clocking as the more expensive. Having said that, the price-performance ratio goes down very quickly the closer you get to the 'top-of-the-line' boards.

The gigabyte board (the one in goatboy's sig Razz) has gotten some good reviews without being ridiculously expensive as have boards from asus (P5kE and others). The biostar reached a maximum fsb of 410 in this review.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/13079/5

That isn't bad if you consider the price but if you're planning on some huge overclocking then that's not the maximum you want to achieve.


Sorry for double posting but your right, thats why I was wondering what would be good for an expensive overclocking motherboard aswell, get a view from both sides of the spectrum.

EDIT: Really, the AMD PC I have now was just a temporary replacement to the 1GHz AMD Duron 512MB SDRAM Soltek Socket A 60GB Hdd I had, now that I have more money, no debt, and more experience/knowledge of parts/brands I can make an actual PC, this time I was aiming for a good one that I can use for LAN because currently my AMD is kinda...bust and isnt really that good for transporting so I was going to get a Thermaltake Xaser and the Thermaltake X Bag so it's easy to transport (He just lives up the street and I have no car or nothing), something along those lines.


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 20:04    Post subject:
Theatre_Of_Tragedy wrote:
Ah, sweet, thanks all, if I decide on making a cheap OC'd PC ill see about getting the Biostar P35D2-A7, now what about cooling? I would prefer something other than liquid cooling, seems a bit of a hassle and I don't really want to go through that yet.


http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

There's a new heatsink from Thermalright called the Ultra-120 Extreme which performs even better than the non-extreme. The Scythe and Zalman are quite good too for over-clocking use. Although make sure that the heatsink is compatible with the motherboard you finally buy. Some budget boards don't support the larger heatsinks (the ones in that list are all massive) due to clearance issues.
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Theatre_Of_Tragedy




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Dec 2007 10:20    Post subject:
Just before I finalize on what I'm buying, would the Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R P35 (one that sin is using) be fine with the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz LGA775 1066FSB LGA775 G0 Stepping (http://www.nzoczone.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_24&products_id=5946)?

@ swingman thanks for that I think I'll go with the Scythe Infinity since it balances both low noise and temperature...then again the Thermalright Ultra is just a heat sync, what takes up less space?


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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Dec 2007 10:49    Post subject:
680i with a Tuniq Tower here. Have my E6600 running @ 3.375GHz and can probably push more but I see no reason to.
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swingman




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Dec 2007 12:42    Post subject:
Theatre_Of_Tragedy wrote:
Just before I finalize on what I'm buying, would the Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R P35 (one that sin is using) be fine with the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz LGA775 1066FSB LGA775 G0 Stepping (http://www.nzoczone.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_24&products_id=5946)?

@ swingman thanks for that I think I'll go with the Scythe Infinity since it balances both low noise and temperature...then again the Thermalright Ultra is just a heat sync, what takes up less space?


The Gigabyte board supports core2 dual and quad-cores (1333 fsb) and even the 45nm cpus which will appear next year. As to that specific board, you should read some reviews/user opinions to get a better idea. The difference in performance between the 'top' boards is so small that it comes down to the other features such as sli/crossfire, wi-fi, number of sata drives, etc.

The heatsinks on that list are all massive so you should look at the dimensions of the particular cooler to see if it will fit. The thing about the thermalright is that you can choose your own fan suited to your own needs i.e. noise-free or cooling performance.

Edit: compatibility list

That's just for the motherboard. You should check for casing compatibility too.
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Dec 2007 12:25    Post subject:
Theatre_Of_Tragedy wrote:
Just before I finalize on what I'm buying, would the Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R P35 (one that sin is using) be fine with the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz LGA775 1066FSB LGA775 G0 Stepping (http://www.nzoczone.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_24&products_id=5946)?


Works a treat i'm using the same board and run my q6600 at 3.6ghz with a cheap air cooler (arctic cooling freezer pro thingy) without any instability probs. Was extremely easy to achieve.

I also like the fact it has 6 ram slots - 2xddr3 and 4xddr2..

Be careful of cheaper boards as the heatsinks don't always allow for decent oc'ing, and they sometimes have deliberately limited bios options, but I haven't any knowledge of the specific recommendations made..
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Theatre_Of_Tragedy




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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Dec 2007 21:21    Post subject:
Cool, OK when I have enough I'll get it, but is the Q6600 G0 Stepping worth the extra money?


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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Dec 2007 21:35    Post subject:
Yeah, they´re easier to clock - and since you want to OC, then i say go for it Smile


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Theatre_Of_Tragedy




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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Dec 2007 22:36    Post subject:
OK, I'll try get it instead of normal, just I'm still going to go with the 6400+ Black as well so If friends come over I can LAN the comps and kick their asses, I would use hamachi but internet in NZ is crap.


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suicid4l




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 20:18    Post subject:
Theatre_Of_Tragedy wrote:
Cool, OK when I have enough I'll get it, but is the Q6600 G0 Stepping worth the extra money?


Defo, you could debate all day what would be a better buy a e6750/6850 or a q6600 if it wasn't a g0, but the g0's can oc close to the e6X50 which makes it a no brainer if the price is right.

Having said that if they're charging too much of a premium for the chip they're exploiting demand again and I'd rethink..

Also I wouldn't say quad is pointless, far far too early to say that. Peeps said similar about dual-core when it came out, it's like when peeps said to buy the x800 and not worry about the lack of sm3, time will tell..


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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 20:23    Post subject:
i always go with boards from abit if i want overclocking =)
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Theatre_Of_Tragedy




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 18:26    Post subject:
I've had problems with my current Gigabyte or so I thought so I was hoping to get an ASUS now but meh, I'm not too fussed.


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