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Serben
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Posted: Sat, 1st Dec 2007 01:02 Post subject: Making a dynamic IP static? |
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I changed my ISP today and got a new 24mbit connection, but what i didn't know was that the fucking thing has a dynamic IP! Now i can't be in active mode in DC++, and who knows what other programs are affected by this. So i need to know if it's possible to somehow make my IP static again? Either through hardware or software based means. I'm going to call my ISP on monday and ask them if there's a way to get a static IP, but until then i need to know if there are other solutions. Also, does anyone else here have a dynamic IP. If so, how does it affect you in regards to downloading stuff? I heard that the new 100mbit connections in Sweden are all dynamic as well. Is this true?
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Jenni
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Posted: Sat, 1st Dec 2007 01:37 Post subject: |
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Serben
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Posted: Sat, 1st Dec 2007 01:42 Post subject: |
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DC++ actually rules for finding old movies and music that none of the torrent/irc search engines/newsgroups have. And there's a version of it based on the original DC++ called revconnect that allows you to download from multiple sources at once. I am able to max my connection with it every time with no more than 10 sources. Great for download old movies and music and games.
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kosmiq
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Posted: Sat, 1st Dec 2007 01:43 Post subject: |
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you can of course be active in DC with Dynamic IP. God it's almost easier...
If you really want a Static IP Alltele (was TDC/Song) is the only larger ISP I know that uses them however I do not think they sell the connections anymore they just keep existing customers.
If your new ISP is Telenor, Glocalnet, Telia or Bredbandsbolaget you won't be able to get a static IP as a private customer. If you have a small local ISP you might be lucky enough to get one.
If you have Telia remember that any IP you are assigned will be locked to your MAC for 20mins meaning if you have a router you will get the same IP unless it is turned of for more then 20minutes.
With Telenor, Glocalnet and BBB you will most likely get a new IP if you restart something.
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Serben
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Posted: Sat, 1st Dec 2007 02:06 Post subject: |
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I have tele2. SO how exactly do i become active in DC with a dynamic IP?
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Posted: Sat, 1st Dec 2007 08:32 Post subject: |
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I don't understand what the problem with a dynamic IP is? I don't think my IP has changed
in 3 months, it may as well be static at times I think.
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Serben
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Posted: Sun, 16th Dec 2007 16:24 Post subject: |
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Well, i just found out yet another reason to have a static IP. P2P apps like direct connect aren't the only ones to be affected. Torrents are affected by dynamic IP's too. If you're using a torrent, you can't connect to other users with dynamic IP's, which effectively limits your max speeds. I know you all think torrents suck, but i'm a member of this private tracker that specializes in extremely rare and hard to find games. They pretty much have every single game ever made for any system before 2000 (i'm not bullshitting you, they have EVERYTHING), and having a dynamic IP really fucks with my ability to download stuff from there, as well as keeping my ratio high since i can't get my upload speed to stay constant. Isn't there any way to fix this so i can get a static IP? By using a router or something? Every guide i've read on the internet about fixing issues like these involve routers, so i'm guessing the answer is yes. But how can i know if it will work for me before i waste money on a router? Does it work for all internet connections, or only some? Which router should i get? And once i get one, how do i set it up so i can have a static IP?
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LeoNatan
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Posted: Sun, 16th Dec 2007 16:42 Post subject: |
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I used to have a dynamic IP back in the day, and torrents worked great...
And btw, what do you mean dynamic? If it's that you get a different IP every time you connect to the ISP or that you change IPs while you are connected? If it's the former, the easy solution is to get a router that would stay connected all the time. I don't even think the latter is possible lol.
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X_Dror
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Posted: Sun, 16th Dec 2007 16:58 Post subject: |
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Serben wrote: | Well, i just found out yet another reason to have a static IP. P2P apps like direct connect aren't the only ones to be affected. Torrents are affected by dynamic IP's too. If you're using a torrent, you can't connect to other users with dynamic IP's, which effectively limits your max speeds. |
What?? That makes no sense. I got a dynamic IP and same goes to almost all of the people with ADSL in Israel, and I don't have a problem connecting to people with a dynamic IP. I download torrents on the maximum of my connection. (250KB/s)
Anyhow, there are a lot of people with a dynamic IP, it a totally normal things and it shouldn't bother you unless you use your computer as a webserver, or any kind of other server.
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Serben
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Posted: Sun, 16th Dec 2007 17:07 Post subject: |
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I didn't say it prevented me from using torrents. Torrents work fine when there are lots of seeds. However, according to the FAQ on the private tracker that i'm on, having a dynamic IP prevents you from connecting to everyone, and limits the number of people you can download/upload from/to.
Look here: http://www.underground-gamer.com/wiki/index.php/Connectable
When i look at my profile on their site, it says i am not connectable. Which means something's not right with my IP. Many torrents on that site only have a few seeders, so not being able to connect to half of them really hurts my speed.
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Posted: Sun, 16th Dec 2007 17:22 Post subject: Re: Making a dynamic IP static? |
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Serben wrote: | I changed my ISP today and got a new 24mbit connection, but what i didn't know was that the fucking thing has a dynamic IP! Now i can't be in active mode in DC++, and who knows what other programs are affected by this. So i need to know if it's possible to somehow make my IP static again? Either through hardware or software based means. I'm going to call my ISP on monday and ask them if there's a way to get a static IP, but until then i need to know if there are other solutions. Also, does anyone else here have a dynamic IP. If so, how does it affect you in regards to downloading stuff? I heard that the new 100mbit connections in Sweden are all dynamic as well. Is this true? |
A router give you the option to always stay connected, so you never change ip. As long as you don't disconect the router or the modem.
I don't know if all router does it but mine a dlink 604 does. Most ISP offer static ip.
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Posted: Sun, 16th Dec 2007 18:02 Post subject: |
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im almost sure that dynamic ip cant affect your download speed in torrent only your uploads (i cheat on my ratio anyway, so i really dont care ).
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Posted: Sun, 16th Dec 2007 23:19 Post subject: |
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Whats the name of your provider? Sounds more like the "not connectable" issue is from certain port/firewall issues.
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kosmiq
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Posted: Mon, 17th Dec 2007 00:51 Post subject: |
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You don't have to worry about having dynamic IP for leeching or whatever. As for Tele2 you will never get static IP from them since they use PPPoE on Skanova and Telenor platforms, DHCP on their own (LLUB)
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Lutzifer
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Posted: Mon, 17th Dec 2007 03:37 Post subject: |
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usually ip's change max every 24hours, right? You ll get a short reconnect and then your software usually figures out that you have a new ip and does everything as usual. Never heard that any p2p client wouldnt be able to cope with it...
...and if you need to connect to your system from the outside, just use dyndns as pointed out above
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Posted: Mon, 17th Dec 2007 08:32 Post subject: |
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Lutzifer wrote: | usually ip's change max every 24hours, right? You ll get a short reconnect and then your software usually figures out that you have a new ip and does everything as usual. |
I think it might work like that with some ISPs, but with mine it's just about free for all. If you disconnect or reconnect, and in the period you're down someone else in your area connects/reconnects, they will be assigned your IP.
But imo it's easy to avoid changing IP if you have my scenario, just get a router with 100% uptime, like a Linksys. Then your IP will never change unless you have to reboot your router for some strange reason.
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Lutzifer
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Posted: Mon, 17th Dec 2007 13:52 Post subject: |
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i had an ISP who also had a configuration like that parallax and i usually had my ip for weeks. The timeframe to get the same ip again after reboot was about 20 minutes or so. I dont mind being on dyn ip though, havent seen any problems with it
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deelix
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Posted: Mon, 17th Dec 2007 13:57 Post subject: |
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Lutzifer wrote: | i had an ISP who also had a configuration like that parallax and i usually had my ip for weeks. The timeframe to get the same ip again after reboot was about 20 minutes or so. I dont mind being on dyn ip though, havent seen any problems with it | kinda crap if you open for a IP address in a firewall tho.. got to change the damn IP everytime :\
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Lutzifer
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Posted: Mon, 17th Dec 2007 14:05 Post subject: |
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deelix wrote: | Lutzifer wrote: | i had an ISP who also had a configuration like that parallax and i usually had my ip for weeks. The timeframe to get the same ip again after reboot was about 20 minutes or so. I dont mind being on dyn ip though, havent seen any problems with it | kinda crap if you open for a IP address in a firewall tho.. got to change the damn IP everytime :\ |
should be easy with NAS and other firewall settings to never actually have to type in an ip...
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