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Stimp123




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 20:55    Post subject:
Will this videocard be a good combination with my motherboard, amd64 x2 dual core 3800+ and 3gb ram?
(Thanks for the fast answers)
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$en$i
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 21:03    Post subject:
Some really nice homemade faq about the intel core 2/quad CPUs temp/sensors:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/221745-11-core-temperature-guide

@ DV2

Can you remind us your setup (CPU, ram, etc), this can help to give you some advice in your OC.

@ KrAzY-KaMeL

Never tried this Intel Thermal Analysis Tool, the version i have found looks old and doesn't seem to work (vista x64), any link toward a recent version?
Otherwise I had few troubles with Everest lately on my recent mobo, was "killing" some sensor, I went back to speedfan for now. Smile
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Surray




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 21:04    Post subject:
Stimp123 wrote:
Will this videocard be a good combination with my motherboard, amd64 x2 dual core 3800+ and 3gb ram?
(Thanks for the fast answers)


your cpu is probably too old to really use the card's full potential. but it should be fine in most games...
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 21:06    Post subject:
Oh looks like TAT is incompatible with Vista x64 (For now) Try Intel Desktop Utilities (IDU) it is suppose to be a Vista alternative for TAT.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 21:20    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
Stimp123 wrote:
Will this videocard be a good combination with my motherboard, amd64 x2 dual core 3800+ and 3gb ram?
(Thanks for the fast answers)


your cpu is probably too old to really use the card's full potential. but it should be fine in most games...


why?


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Stimp123




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 21:23    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
Stimp123 wrote:
Will this videocard be a good combination with my motherboard, amd64 x2 dual core 3800+ and 3gb ram?
(Thanks for the fast answers)


your cpu is probably too old to really use the card's full potential. but it should be fine in most games...


It will work on high settings in a game like crysis?
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 21:34    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
Surray wrote:
Stimp123 wrote:
Will this videocard be a good combination with my motherboard, amd64 x2 dual core 3800+ and 3gb ram?
(Thanks for the fast answers)


your cpu is probably too old to really use the card's full potential. but it should be fine in most games...


why?


well... because an athlon 64 x2 3800+ is old and will hold back the graphics card in CPU intensive games, like supreme commander, where an athlon 64 x2 3800+ is less than half as fast as a core 2 duo e6750 and barely produces fluid framerates.

Stimp123: crysis should run ok on High settings, but not Very High probably. Crysis is the most demanding game out there right now so everything else should run good.
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Stimp123




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 21:40    Post subject:
ok, thanks, I have a better eye on it now
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 21:55    Post subject:
Remember if you are getting frame rate issues.

Shader/Shadow/Post-Processing/Object Quality - Mess with dropping whatever combination of those to medium.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 22:05    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
Oh looks like TAT is incompatible with Vista x64 (For now) Try Intel Desktop Utilities (IDU) it is suppose to be a Vista alternative for TAT.
Won't work with my chipset (p35) nor under Vista x64, i will have to do without, ty. Smile


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Stimp123




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 22:05    Post subject:
yes, it shall be some testing. But if i have luck and i can sell my pc, i will buy a new pc with intel core2 quad q6600 2.4 ghz
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DV2




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 22:30    Post subject:
These r my Specs..

Intel Core2Duo E6600@2,4Ghz (NO OC'ed) WITH A THERMALTAKE BIG TYPH VX12 (Not at max fan speed for noise <3)
ASUS P5K Deluxe Motherboard (with P35 thingy..or check their site!)
3GB DDR2 663Mhz RAM
ASUS nVidia EN7900GT 256MB PCI-E WITH ZALMAN VF900 AT MAX SPEED (no noise...Wink )
PSU Seventeam 550W

Here's what EVEREST said yesterday

About the others....*Checks everest*

CPU Core Voltage: 1.3
Cooling Fan: Chassis #1: 2.6
Cooling Fan: CPU: 1.3
2 HDD's: 41-43
GPU (Now): 42 (In game) 50-55
CPU 1 Core 2: 28-30
CPU 1 Core 1: 20-22
Mother Board (ASUS P5K Deluxe): 43

Anything else you need 2 kno?..

Please somebody tell me buyin' an XFX 8800GT 512MB will be GOOD for this rig
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Surray




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 22:35    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
These r my Specs..

Intel Core2Duo E6600@2,4Ghz (NO OC'ed) WITH A THERMALTAKE BIG TYPH VX12 (Not at max fan speed for noise <3)
ASUS P5K Deluxe Motherboard (with P35 thingy..or check their site!)
3GB DDR2 663Mhz RAM
ASUS nVidia EN7900GT 256MB PCI-E WITH ZALMAN VF900 AT MAX SPEED (no noise...;) )
PSU Seventeam 550W

Please somebody tell me buyin' an XFX 8800GT 512MB will be GOOD for this rig


I wonder how you got a good pc like that with so little knowledge about hardware...

Now stop asking weird questions and go get an 8800 GT. You can't go wrong with an XFX one. It's great performance for a low price and it's a good card for your system, should do very well with that Core 2 Duo.
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DV2




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 22:40    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
DV2 wrote:
These r my Specs..

Intel Core2Duo E6600@2,4Ghz (NO OC'ed) WITH A THERMALTAKE BIG TYPH VX12 (Not at max fan speed for noise <3)
ASUS P5K Deluxe Motherboard (with P35 thingy..or check their site!)
3GB DDR2 663Mhz RAM
ASUS nVidia EN7900GT 256MB PCI-E WITH ZALMAN VF900 AT MAX SPEED (no noise...Wink )
PSU Seventeam 550W

Please somebody tell me buyin' an XFX 8800GT 512MB will be GOOD for this rig


I wonder how you got a good pc like that with so little knowledge about hardware...

Now stop asking weird questions and go get an 8800 GT. You can't go wrong with an XFX one. It's great performance for a low price and it's a good card for your system, should do very well with that Core 2 Duo.


I'm asking questions before my pc gets nuked ¬¬...
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chaingang23




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 22:50    Post subject:
Stimp123 wrote:
Will this videocard be a good combination with my motherboard, amd64 x2 dual core 3800+ and 3gb ram?
(Thanks for the fast answers)


Your CPU is going to bottleneck the 8800GT...
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Stimp123




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 22:55    Post subject:
chaingang23 wrote:
Stimp123 wrote:
Will this videocard be a good combination with my motherboard, amd64 x2 dual core 3800+ and 3gb ram?
(Thanks for the fast answers)


Your CPU is going to bottleneck the 8800GT...


Maybe stupid question, but what is bottleneck?
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DV2




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 22:56    Post subject:
Stimp123 wrote:
chaingang23 wrote:
Stimp123 wrote:
Will this videocard be a good combination with my motherboard, amd64 x2 dual core 3800+ and 3gb ram?
(Thanks for the fast answers)


Your CPU is going to bottleneck the 8800GT...


Maybe stupid question, but what is bottleneck?


Same...being spanish that's a big interestin' question..
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 23:02    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
Surray wrote:


your cpu is probably too old to really use the card's full potential. but it should be fine in most games...


why?


well... because an athlon 64 x2 3800+ is old and will hold back the graphics card in CPU intensive games, like supreme commander, where an athlon 64 x2 3800+ is less than half as fast as a core 2 duo e6750 and barely produces fluid framerates.

Stimp123: crysis should run ok on High settings, but not Very High probably. Crysis is the most demanding game out there right now so everything else should run good.


ok, I thought you were saying that the cpu affected the gfx card, not that it was simply a bottleneck (for DV2 that means that the computer can only run as fast as the slowest component).


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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Nov 2007 23:52    Post subject:
Bottleneck:

- A narrow or obstructed section, as of a highway or a pipeline.
- A point or an area of traffic congestion.
- A hindrance to progress or production.
- The narrow part of a bottle near the top.

Smile

cf. http://www.answers.com/topic/bottleneck?cat=biz-fin

@ DV2

Alright, you could easily push a little 25% overclock with 3 Ghz (in FSB 333 MHz x 9), your ram will be at 666 Mhz and all should be ok; you will maybe have to push the vcore to 1.325 V.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 00:07    Post subject:
Ummm...how do i do that? ^^;;...my RAM speed is 667 (333mhz) at EVEREST (the 3 RAMs r Kingston)

My C2D E6600 is 1066FSB as i remember from the buyin' catalogue i've got...

Remember i use ASUS..if u kno' the way to OC my system WITHOUT BURNING IT / MALFUNCTION IT please tell me step by step clarified...

PD: Will doin' this boost up games,applz and boot up?..i applied an XP Patch so it works for C2D but i dun feel much difference i guess..


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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 00:27    Post subject:
My goodness, this has been drawn out so far. Buying PC hardware components don't involve the level of complexity of building a motor. You have only so many combinations of stuff that "work" - or are otherwise incompatible.

You've done the first step which is put a system together, now asking if that 8800GT would be good for the rig is like asking if jumping off a 10 story buildings gonna hurt.

It will work, and it will work great. Don't even bother OC'ing at this point. By the looks of what you've said so far - you will by no means care for the performance improvement from the Overclock. You'll just be in amazement at how fast your games will be running. Don't bother with any mild overclocks until you are unsatisfied with a particular (CPU) heavy games performance. Done Deal.

Just put it together and play your games!
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 00:44    Post subject:
@ DV2

In the BIOS, go in "advanced", put "Ai overclocking" on manual, push the FSB frequency (CPU external frequency) from 266 Mhz to 333 Mhz (from 266 x 9 = 2400 Mhz to 333 x9 = 3000 Mhz, 9 being the multiplier), if needed increase your vcore -CPU voltage- from 1.300V to 1.3125V (or 1.3250V, 1.3375 or even 1.3500V, as needed for your OS to remain stable/boot), let your ram -DRAM frequency- on Auto or set it manually on DDR2-667 Mhz.
This will boost apps and the OS overall, not really games unless they are CPU dependent. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 00:48    Post subject:
$en$i wrote:
@ DV2

In the BIOS, go in "advanced", put "Ai overclocking" on manual, push the FSB frequency (CPU external frequency) from 266 Mhz to 333 Mhz (from 266 x 9 = 2400 Mhz to 333 x9 = 3000 Mhz, 9 being the multiplier), if needed increase your vcore -CPU voltage- from 1.300V to 1.3125V (or 1.3250V, 1.3375 or even 1.3500V, as needed for your OS to remain stable/boot), let your ram -DRAM frequency- on Auto or set it manually on DDR2-667 Mhz.
This will boost apps and the OS overall, not really games unless they are CPU dependent. Smile


I've got this AI Suite program for XP,will this work 2?

My actual CPU Voltage's 1.1760-1.1920
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 00:52    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
I've got this AI Suite program for XP,will this work 2?
You don't need anything outside of your BIOS, better overclock from there if you want to do so. Smile
Keep your CPU voltage on auto if you don't want to play with it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 01:09    Post subject:
well in the end i did the fearful OC on my CPU...usin' the BIOS and setting all to AUTO except the FSB from 266 2 333mhz .AI Suite shows the followin':

CPU 38C
System 43C
Volt 1.4000 (AUTO O___O )
Fan 1300RPM
Chassis 2500RPM

No probs so far...for now..what do u guys think?...


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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 01:28    Post subject:
@ DV2

Then it should be ok, set the CPU voltage manual like said above, 1.4 seems over what is really needed.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 01:36    Post subject:
You need to test for stability. Best way would be to run a game in benchmark mode. If it doesn't crash then it's stable. And the bench-mark (if successful) will tell you if the overclock has improved the gaming performance when compared to non-overclock benchmark.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 01:50    Post subject:
Yeah, you can also run a stress test with OCCT or similar.

http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 02:05    Post subject:
*Defaults back to 266mhz FSB and AUTO all..*


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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Nov 2007 07:56    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
*Defaults back to 266mhz FSB and AUTO all..*


ehmm why? Did the PC freeze upon testing/gaming?


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