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Jenni
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 Posted: Mon, 26th Nov 2007 17:48 Post subject: Virgin Media announces 50mb lines from next year. |
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| Quote: | Broadband industry leaders are to meet ministers to discuss how to stop the UK dropping into the internet "slow lane".
More than half of all UK homes now have a broadband connection, at an average speed of four megabits a second (Mbps).
But the broadband summit will hear other countries are moving more quickly to build ultra-fast networks that can deliver speeds of as much as 100 Mbps.
Ministers say ultra-fast broadband will be a key to helping UK businesses "innovate, grow and create wealth".
Average speed
"We need to be discussing how we can put this new network into place, because delay could be a barrier to the future success of our economy," said Stephen Timms, minister for competitiveness.
The broadband summit will discuss how industry, government and regulators can make sure Britain gets the next-generation network that will be needed as services like internet video take off.
Copper lines
BT - Britain's biggest broadband provider - has already warned that it may struggle to pay for an ultra-fast network.
But cable company Virgin says it will deliver 50 Mbps broadband by the end of next year - more than twice the maximum speed it currently offers.
Virgin's 50 Mbps service will be available to more than 70% of the 12.5m homes its cable network covers by the end of 2008, the firm said.
The company is not digging up streets or laying new fibre to homes, but is installing new equipment at the hubs and bundling together spare channels on the line.
Most of Britain's broadband access is delivered through existing copper telephone lines, which were never designed to deliver ultra-fast broadband.
BT is due to roll out ADSL2+ in the coming years but speeds will be limited to a maximum of 24 Mbps.
In the US, companies such as Verizon have invested billions of dollars in fibre to the home, providing hundreds of video channels and high-speed broadband.
BT is investing £10bn in speeding up the existing network, which includes some fibre, and will be able to deliver download speeds of 24 Mbps by 2011. |
Can't wait. |
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Jenni
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Nov 2007 20:53 Post subject: |
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I've never had a problem with their service.
I get top speeds all the time. The cap isn't that bad, dropped tp 5mb line between 4pm and 12 if you download more than 3gb.
All other times its fast.
I can't wait for the 50mb line. 
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Nov 2007 21:04 Post subject: |
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if you break the cap at 11:59pm your still capped for some hours though.
i'd rather be back on 10mb with no cap given the choice
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Jenni
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Nov 2007 22:02 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't. You've still got a hell of a lot more capacity with the 20mb line with the cap, than a 10mb line without.
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Nov 2007 22:46 Post subject: |
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Jenni
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Nov 2007 23:48 Post subject: |
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You do realise that VM is just a rebranded Blue Yonder with NTL. They have the same network and I'll wager all the problems are with the old NTL network.
The Blue Yonder network is a whole different kettle of fish. Its new less than 20 years old.
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Nov 2007 23:57 Post subject: |
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Ofcourse, i've been with blueyonder since the beginning. But since VM took over it's really went downhill, because they oversell the network.
Just because blueyonders network can be classified as new, doesn't automatically mean it works fine and dandy for everyone. What I was saying was pre-VM, I never had any problems with Blueyonder, it was amazing infact! But now, the speeds are so inconsistent, especially at peak times (and no, it is not the throttling  ).
The most annoying thing is because the speeds are so inconsistent, e.g. jumping from probably 12mb down to 135kb, makes watching videos or whatever a complete joke since it has to constantly rebuffer because of how the buffering system works.
Just because you get consistent speeds, don't automatically assume VM is some god's gift to nerds. In fact, search for any forum that has a VM broadband section and i'd bet it'll be filled with people saying the same as me.
Congested UBR FTL 
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 00:33 Post subject: |
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virgin media didnt take over, ntl bought out blueyonder and then NTL paid virgin for the use of the virgin brand name.
virgin dont own ntl or blueyonder
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Jenni
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 00:43 Post subject: |
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I can't see why, I mean they have the same network as before.
Where you from?
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 00:45 Post subject: |
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The rebrand would have came with some operational changes i'm sure. It's more to do with the UBR's being congested, because they push push push the internet packages (which is fair enough), but it just means the network becomes fucked. Even if the network is pretty good, doesn't mean it has infinite bandwidth speed, otherwise we'd all be living in 2TB/s world!
Edinburgh here!
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 00:48 Post subject: |
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| Twitchy wrote: |
Just because you get consistent speeds, don't automatically assume VM is some god's gift to nerds. In fact, search for any forum that has a VM broadband section and i'd bet it'll be filled with people saying the same as me.
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Thats because the people who have no problems generally don't bother to visit the forums. It's the same with almost every service or product.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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Jenni
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 00:51 Post subject: |
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Well I'm from Newcastle and I can honestly say that here people have nothing but good to say about their service apart from their crappy customer service record.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 00:51 Post subject: |
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my connection has just totally dropped out in the South of England. I'ts just shit, and I resent paying 25p a minute to remind there a problem with my connection speed.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 00:52 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: |
Thats because the people who have no problems generally don't bother to visit the forums. It's the same with almost every service or product. |
Thanks I did not know that!!!
Hah, kiddin, but isn't there a link between the ammount of complaints between recently, and whenever the network was considered good (in the eyes of many).
And that's not a guess, alot of these forums i've browsed for years. So it's not just the "the happy people say nothing" factor.
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Jenni
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 00:53 Post subject: |
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Thats because you're in the old NTL area. Its probably the old Reddifusion (or however its spelt) network if its cable. If its ADSL, well the old telephone network was never designed to carry data.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 01:01 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 01:10 Post subject: |
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see what happens after xmas, after spending a few quid talking to tech support it seems that a major upgrade is being introduced.
I'd like to put HD TV on my Plasma, but the fancy set top box from Virgin costs £150 which seems a bit steep. If I got this and a 10 meg line (and no guarantee of any real increse in speed I'd forking out over £500.00 in just one year. Seems a bit steep.
We seem a bit behind in this country. I blame Maggie Thatcher and her deregulation of UK telecoms and ridiculous legislation forced on BT in the early nineties.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 01:24 Post subject: |
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i know, my dad used to be a telecoms engineer for Plessy (GPT), in fact he helped design the system X, BT telecoms exchanges.
It's a sorry tale of political mismanagement and incompetent corporate bosses, who just couldn't see the future.
I took part in the first BT ADSL trials in 1994 in north London, and in twelve years my connections not improved. Then I was getting 512kbs, so little’s changed!
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 01:54 Post subject: |
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Gahahaha, 50 mbit.. that's like.. '98.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 02:15 Post subject: |
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| Jenni wrote: | | Well I'm from Newcastle and I can honestly say that here people have nothing but good to say about their service apart from their crappy customer service record. |
im from newcastle and ive had problems, you might be on a different ubrs than me though im on cable.ubr01.benw.blueyonder.co.uk, customer service for me has always been good but i use the newsgroups where the english techs hang out not the stupid phone support where you speak to some idiot who can only book an engineer because they dont have access to the virginmedia network to check ubrs utilisation etc
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 08:36 Post subject: |
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50mbit is pretty average in Sweden, no? okay, maybe 20.
i like to enjoy my privately get 200mbit line without any caps or protocol restrictions..
http://torrentfreak.com/war-against-bittorrent-throttling-isps-071106/
| Quote: | | Virgin Media does not specifically target BitTorrent traffic, they simply throttle all traffic during peak times. |
yes
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 11:10 Post subject: |
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ADSL2+ ftw currently
constant 15mbit down at all times, constant 1.5mbit up at all times.
unlimited too. no throttling.
be* ftw
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Nov 2007 17:07 Post subject: |
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| Twitchy wrote: | The rebrand would have came with some operational changes i'm sure. It's more to do with the UBR's being congested, because they push push push the internet packages (which is fair enough), but it just means the network becomes fucked. Even if the network is pretty good, doesn't mean it has infinite bandwidth speed, otherwise we'd all be living in 2TB/s world!
Edinburgh here! |
Hmm, I have no problems with my connection (apart from capping) and i'm in the same area as you... What UBR are you on? And what modem are you using?
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it didnt matter how many times i tried to reconnect the modem kept connecting at a crappy rate.
i dont know a way around it either 
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