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To be fair I think the guy is talking about the PC version of Halo 2 which had updated textures.
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sTo0z
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Well, well.. 3 friends and I planned this as soon as we heard about 4 player co-op, to go immediately to a 4 player co-op game on legendary right out of the box, and that is just what we did.
We put about 5-6 hours in and made it to the last level before we called it a night, so we played a fair chunk.
The graphics are acceptable. Nothing that blows your mind, but the game definitely looks nice, and when you're zipping around your replays and noticing all the things you didn't notice when you were playing, you will really say "wow." It still looks like the Halo universe, which is the important thing to me. The game will not go down in history as the most beautiful game ever, but I don't think anyone will complain (except the morons...  )
The co-op gameplay is amazing. Now I can just hear all of you "wahhhh co-op is nothing new, they did it 10 years ago, wahhhh!!!!" Who cares? Co-op is fucking awesome and it doesn't need to be revolutionary or new, it needs to be FUCKING FUN, which is exactly what it is. The chaos and battles that happen are out of control fun, and that's what matters. We experienced very little lag and over-all ran nice and smooth.
The only gripe I might have is the ease of respawning, it seems to happen too fast, too easily, which accounts for so many players blowing through even legendary so quickly. Granted, some parts would be insanely frustrating otherwise.. I think we totally wiped like only three times.
As said by other players, the weapons feel a little dead, or weak, or something. They definitely do not pack the feel of, say, Halo 1. The vehicles feel the same, which ironically saddens me a little bit. So many complaints about the original Warthog's controls from Halo 1, but I loved them, and hoped they would remove the Halo 2's Warthog's stiffness a bit, but it seems they did not.
Level design is both shallow at parts, and mind-blowingly amazing in others. There is a small amount of backtracking, and I know critics are going to LOVE to jump all over that, and blow it out of proportion, but it isn't really that bad. It adds new some new fights to locations you already passed, but it's not terrible.
There are plenty of tight corridor areas and I know the critics are going to jump on that and blow that out of proportion too, but whatever. I never felt like it was a problem, I was too busy enjoying the shit out of the game to notice a tight hallway breaking my immersion and going "why the fuck am I cramped in this hallway?!"
I messed around with the Forge a bit, and wasn't too impressed with it just yet. But to be perfectly fair, I really only gave it about an hour of attention, enough to scratch the surface. I don't even know the deeper capabilities of the Forge yet, I'm sure amazing things will happen by some people. The highlight is that you can have up to 8 people editing with you. Needless to say, I was running around as a player and my friend was in edit mode, he spawned a tank and with godlike prowess, threw it at me and splattered me along the ground.
Multiplayer I honestly am not really looking forward to. Halo has always been about the co-op with me, and there are some super retarded douchejockeys in Halo MP games, like the worst of the worst to be found in MP games. But I did mess around with a few friends at some point, the highlight was definitely Ninjanaught and Zombie. Nothing knew to the genre, but they are definitely full of amusement.
Ah, now I have saved the best for last, the part where my Halo fanboyism will truly come to light. Some parts of this game feel mediocre to most, and for Halo fans, they simply brandish a smile and enjoy the game, even at its weakest. Now when the fucking kick ass parts come, they are wide eyed with joy and amazement to the likes of which they do not experience often. Of what do I speak? Both Scarab Tank battles were fucking incredible. I'm not sure how it would feel in Solo Campaign, but I've never played a campaign game of Halo by myself, so I really would not know. But having you and 3 friends working your ass off to bring that bitch down is an experience none should miss. Who cares if it's not doing anything new to the FPS genre, it's fucking fun as hell, and if you try to argue that, you're dumb. The first scarab tank gives you all those mongoose vehicles and a bunch of marines with rockets, then you start haulin' ass around the bitch tryin' to take him down. Just having the 4 of us in the area co-operatively working on what you might consider a "boss" battle, it felt like nothing before. Until the second Scarab Tank battle came. TWO this time. We hopped on a few hornets and a buddy flew us right in, we hopped off and landed on it, proceeded to rape its weak spot, and then we battled the other. The two battles felt so good, I don't think I've yet to play an FPS where I had that level of excitement.
Another stage where I was wide-eyed with joy, was when they pack you and your 3 friends on a couple of warthogs and just you fly loose down the roads into battle. They fire up that fucking Halo theme and THEN you know it is FUCKING ON. You are flooded with battle excitement until you are ready to explode, then you haul batshit crazy into the thick, the driver is doing what he does best, the gunner on your back (who is your friend) is blasting the shit out of people. Out of the corner of your eye you see the other 2 friends in their warthog plowing over a hill, flying through the air, flanking the motherfucking shit out of some motherfuckers. You put on your best moves, dodge a few grenades, eat a few bullets, but in the end, you mop those bitches up. You are battle weary, your warthog is a bit fucked up, you have a gimpy wheel, but you and your allies are still in the fight. You haul ass down the road into the next battle. OH SHIT. Your two other buddies were ahead of you, they took a mortar blast to the side and fucking flipped the fuck out. Their warthog is fucked, they go in for cover and start rippin' away with what they've got. You can't stop now though, you are fucking driving this shit, and your buddy is on the gun. You are hauling ass at a new group, right for their fucking face. You ram a couple, who knows where those fucking corpses went, your buddy is gunning the shit out of the rest. AH DAMN, a brute shot from the side, your warthog is fucked, you are now on the ground, IN THE SHIT. Oh man, you see your other two buddies comin' over the hills to back you up. After intense battles, explosions everywhere, you win the day. The four of you regroup, and march down the road together.
There are a couple of experiences like that in the game, that make the entire game make you want to punch any Halo hater in the face without question, and to go look at those reviews that say 9.5/10, 10/10, and just nod in agreement. Because you fucking know what it's about. And you don't even argue with the people that hate the game anymore. You don't even argue with those that try to peddle off a 6.5/10 score. You just shake your head to yourself and pity them. Because you have just experienced one of the most SATISFYING battles in a game in your entire life. And you are glowing.
If you've read this far, thanks a lot. Sorry if I needed a few extra paragraphs back there, I was writing too furiously and don't feel like going back to edit. To all of you that have experienced Halo 3 and loved it, I'm right there with you. To those of you who have NOT experienced it, you're in for a wild ride. To those that hate Halo 3, that's too bad. I'm glad I have this exact taste for games, where I can leave Halo 3 feeling like I did. I only wish you could do the same.
I just want to make one thing clear. There was a lot of hype going on for this game, but something needs to be understood, parts of this game are incredible, those sections that leave you feeling like I did, that shit is NOT hype, that is pure gaming joy. sTo0z out.
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2007 21:26 Post subject: |
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That's fair enough but the entire post is based on your own emotional experience from playing the game, which is cool; but why take it personally when somebody doesn't see it the same way?
Any time somebody tries to criticise the game, objectively or otherwise words like 'hate' get banded around which is fucking ridiculous tbh.
I like bananas, I don't want to punch people that don't like bananas in the face.
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2007 21:49 Post subject: |
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nice story there stooz.
coop is definitely the most fun part of the halo series (at least for me) and I wish more games would have coop!!
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2007 21:51 Post subject: |
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| LanceBullet wrote: |
I like bananas, I don't want to punch people that don't like bananas in the face. |
I do. Theres nothing that I dislike more than someone who does not like bananas. I'd love to punch one of the fuckers in the throat.
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2007 21:51 Post subject: |
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| LanceBullet wrote: | That's fair enough but the entire post is based on your own emotional experience from playing the game, which is cool; but why take it personally when somebody doesn't see it the same way?
Any time somebody tries to criticise the game, objectively or otherwise words like 'hate' get banded around which is fucking ridiculous tbh.
I like bananas, I don't want to punch people that don't like bananas in the face. |
Well, the punching part was an attempt at a little comic relief. The part you were supposed to take more seriously was when I said I wish people could experience what I did, and it's too bad that they can't.
And for many people complaining, they are drawing out really stupid shit on why Halo is bad. And for them, they really do deserve a punch in the face.
It's like, if I thought bananas were amazing, and you didn't like the taste. I'd say, that's too bad man, I wish you could enjoy this taste that I consider out of this world.
Now I say to the next kid, bananas are amazing! And he comes up to me, "Bananas suck! They are yellow! Other fruits were yellow BEFORE bananas! LAME! 6/10!"
Then I want to fucking deck that kid, five across the eyes. |
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2007 22:01 Post subject: |
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You say 'stupid shit' but you don't articulate why, or even make sense tbh which is ironic.
It's a subjective opinion about entertainment; their opinion is just as valid as yours.
@rmfx, i hope you were joking, either way I don't care.
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2007 22:06 Post subject: |
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got my collectors edition and played most of single player and its very bland. not even top 5 fps on xbox really. i played co op with my friend and even he was not impressed. i will go online to be when the story is beat so some american ass hole doesnt ruin it
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2007 22:12 Post subject: |
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| LanceBullet wrote: | You say 'stupid shit' but you don't articulate why, or even make sense tbh which is ironic.
It's a subjective opinion about entertainment; their opinion is just as valid as yours. |
Games that get an average review score of 90 or more are obviously great games.
Halo 3 is one of those games, so obviously people who say it sucks ass must be lying or simply not liking the game (which they are mistaking for a bad game. a game that is not much fun for YOU is not necessarily a bad game)
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2007 22:34 Post subject: |
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Nice little text there sTo0z, you nailed down most things. I can also add that the Scarab fights are fun in Singleplayer coop too...
And not liking a game IS NOT the same as the game is bad. However you have right to your opinion.. 
Behold his GLORY! Bow for the technical master!
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2007 22:38 Post subject: |
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| LanceBullet wrote: | You say 'stupid shit' but you don't articulate why, or even make sense tbh which is ironic.
It's a subjective opinion about entertainment; their opinion is just as valid as yours.
@rmfx, i hope you were joking, either way I don't care. |
How did I not make sense? Nothing could possibly make more sense than what I've already said.
I don't need to elaborate on other people complaining, the debate has raged back and forth for years, that is NOT the point of my post. If you want details go read this thread over, and go read any Halo thread in existence. I don't care to elaborate, what I cared to share was what I took the time to post.
My opinions, and theirs ARE valid, good for them. Learn to differentiate between sarcasm and sincerity. I already elaborated on the point of a sad attempt at comedy versus what I wanted to draw attention to. Valid points have absolutely NOTHING to do with the statement that I had an amazing experience, and I wish others could do the same.
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2007 22:51 Post subject: |
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Your original post questioned the opinion of people that didn't see it the same way as you which is why I replied.
You don't need to be derisive about others opinions in order to reinforce your own. Sorry if I misinterpreted humour.
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Sep 2007 23:04 Post subject: |
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been playing 16player king of the hill tonight 4x4 teams ,was a riot, easily the best MP game on LIVE
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Sep 2007 00:31 Post subject: |
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| sTo0z wrote: | | LanceBullet wrote: | You say 'stupid shit' but you don't articulate why, or even make sense tbh which is ironic.
It's a subjective opinion about entertainment; their opinion is just as valid as yours.
@rmfx, i hope you were joking, either way I don't care. |
How did I not make sense? Nothing could possibly make more sense than what I've already said.
I don't need to elaborate on other people complaining, the debate has raged back and forth for years, that is NOT the point of my post. If you want details go read this thread over, and go read any Halo thread in existence. I don't care to elaborate, what I cared to share was what I took the time to post.
My opinions, and theirs ARE valid, good for them. Learn to differentiate between sarcasm and sincerity. I already elaborated on the point of a sad attempt at comedy versus what I wanted to draw attention to. Valid points have absolutely NOTHING to do with the statement that I had an amazing experience, and I wish others could do the same. |
Great Original post Stooz. I understood completely, i dont think there was any need to pick apart your post, but maybe i just understood where you were coming from. But my only gripe is im stuck at work, with my copy of Halo 3 in my car unopened, just looking at the clock because your post got me very hyped. I cant wait. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Sep 2007 00:50 Post subject: |
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when are they gonna sort the sound out?
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Sep 2007 01:04 Post subject: |
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Anyone else able to find any volume settings in the game options or is it just me?
May the NFOrce be with you always.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Sep 2007 03:05 Post subject: |
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Is it my display, or does this game have no anti-aliasing at all?
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Sep 2007 03:27 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | Is it my display, or does this game have no anti-aliasing at all? |
I also thought of that, really seem to lack some AA.
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| Mortibus wrote: |
H3 is outdoors 90% of the game and it loox pretty good for almost 3 yo machine
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Xbox 360 is not even two years old!
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Sep 2007 15:38 Post subject: |
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I bought the game yesterday! (Twice! Because first delivery didn't arrive on time)
Campaign:
 Spoiler: | And the Campaign is pretty "meh", I don't know if its me who have become bored of Halo games or if the game itself lacks "it". Seems really short too. Will try to unlock some skulls and do some co-op later on thou before making any final judgment. (I loved co-op in the first one, second one was pretty fun to.) Just played some Co-op with my gf and shes pretty damn bad at these kind of games sooo...that sucked pretty much  Playing the role of guide every 2 seconds really detracts from the overall experience. So I'll wait for a friend to get the full co-op going.
The level-design is what it always been in Halo.
But the final judgment on the games campaign is NOT made for me, this is my first impressions only. |
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The gfx is not all that good. HDR is pretty nice sometimes thou, and some effects are quite good. But overall I expected a little more, this Halo 2-engine they used really shines trough the new textures and all that. I always had the feeling that AA would do this game so much! The jaggies really stuck on my mind, and whenever I forgot them, there they where again!
I love AA. I so do. I sometimes felt "fuck I better force the AA in the controlp....damn"
The sound are pretty weird, some music in weird places - Weapons lack *boom*.
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Ok, all good, I still rock ( I wish)! Same game as before with some new tricks up the sleeve, some more useful than others, but still. But where is the old favorite maps? I hope they end up in a DLC of some sort, because I miss them so much..
Lag ( I guess) have been a issue for me sometimes in multi-player, because I can't count on one hand all the times Ive knocked a fella in the back with my rifle and he just turned around nuking my ass. But overall a good Halo mp experience. I choose to mute all the fuckers almost every match thou, because there is a lot of retards loose in there.
No matchmaking in Custom-games, no matchmaking in Co-Op (that one I don't care that much about really, without real friends it can't be *superomgawesome*.)
Not being able to search for one kind of map sucks, choose game-mode(customs) and so on.
Just being randomly thrown into shitty maps with shitty modes SUCK.
If there is a way - please tell me.
Forge is pretty bad at the moment, two things that sucks: Not being able to delete all objects on the map with a simple button press. Not being able to deploy some objects on every map. Feeling pretty restricted eh.. |
I played 8 hours straight (almost) from getting home from work late at night. So My impressions may be kind of clouded from me being tired as fuck most of the time. 
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