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Parallax_
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I think this game is great, and like Ground Control 2, it has a lot of tactical depth. People who want basebuilding should just go back to crappy C&C3, where just about the only thing matters is strength in numbers.
DX9 vs. DX10 comparison: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6179006/p-4.html
Only difference is the sun-rays from the clouds (one overlay effect in other wowrds). DX10 again proving to be quite overrated.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 07:56 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: | | Only difference is the sun-rays from the clouds (one overlay effect in other wowrds). DX10 again proving to be quite overrated. |
 Hahaha, funny that they made a picture of a static town. It they were to capture a screen in battle, you'd see how DX10 looks in this game. |
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 08:05 Post subject: |
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Well, LeoNatan, why don't you then? 
I am guessing: soft particles. Better explosions, right?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 08:15 Post subject: |
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Something along the lines, but I'm in XP now, and won't be booting to Vista in the next few days.
I won't argue that it's not subtle, but it's not as subtle as those stupid GS shots make it look. And I'll say this (again and again): When a game is primarily made as DX9 game and later DX10 additions are added, it's won't show DX10's full potential.
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Surray
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 08:58 Post subject: |
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I just wonder why dual monitor support is DX10 only... it's not like games haven't been able to use 2 monitors without it.
Supreme Commander did it just fine so why is it Dx10 only here? Is there a technical reason for that or is it just a deal with nividia to make people go buy DX10 hardware?
Likot Mosuskekim, Woodcutter cancels Sleep: Interrupted by Elephant.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 09:17 Post subject: |
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| Surray wrote: | I just wonder why dual monitor support is DX10 only... it's not like games haven't been able to use 2 monitors without it.
Supreme Commander did it just fine so why is it Dx10 only here? Is there a technical reason for that or is it just a deal with nividia to make people go buy DX10 hardware? |
selling point for vista and DX10 cards |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 09:26 Post subject: |
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Maybe MS payed them off, right?
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 09:37 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Maybe MS payed them off, right? |
I wouldn't put it past them. Same with nvidia/ati. DX10 and Vista are doing horrible right now. So they need a way to get people to move over. |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 09:40 Post subject: |
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 You guys are in conspiracy theories even more than I am. |
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 09:51 Post subject: |
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We should get on hamachi for a few rounds! We need someone with a good connection as a host.
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Surray
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 11:07 Post subject: |
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vista is actually doing pretty well now. I recently saw another new test of vista vs xp performance wise, and there are some games where vista actually has higher performance than xp, and not many games left where vista is slower than xp.
but yeah dx10 isnt really worth it at the moment.
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javlar
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 11:17 Post subject: |
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| watergem wrote: | I agree with you fully MD. I think that is what i miss aswel.. This game just doesnt feel like something great like starcraft, command and conquer or company of heroes did. I think it should be categorized as "action rts" or something. It doesn't really have much depth, i mean online you play in a team right? you can only chose one form of units , infantry , air, tanks etc etc and have to rely fully on your team mates to have fun because if one guy isnt doing his job thats it, the game is spoilt for everyone.
The missions just feel so.. "empty" that is the best way i can describe the game, nice on the outside, hollow on the inside. I knew there was something i didnt like about the game when i was doing training, 5 small "days" of the training session and thats it? so basically all i do is point and click units to the front line and reinforce? they blow some stuff up, the artillery guy bombs a few buildings and then we repeat..
Im gonna go to town tomorrow and buy company of heroes instead of this.
Dont get me wrong its not a "bad" game just really seems shallow and boring with excellent graphics. And i now know how much i love resource and base building, not to mention micro management and strategy over action. |
Understand what you mean, I have always felt the other way around, the action is what I like and the resources and basebuilding makes me yawn. That's why im loving it and you arent. We should combine my minireview with yours and we'd have a complete and unbiased review 
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 11:26 Post subject: |
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loved the story in this game, the visual kicks ass, but i agree with watergem its a bit "hollow"
sure its fun for awile, but i miss building bases. it doesnt need to be like C&C, more like company of heroes, witch i love btw.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 12:20 Post subject: |
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Q6600 8800GTX 2GB Ram ddr2 800mhz. Only average 28 fps setting all to max with dx10 at 1280x1024. One of the worst optimized game ever.
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shadak
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 12:55 Post subject: |
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actually walkerboh it is very well optimized. The benchmark is there to stress test your video card under a heavy load.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 14:00 Post subject: |
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Not a bad game, I don't really follow RTS's of any sort much more cause nothing new has been done. I like the modern day USA gets raped theme lol. The beginning video was bad ass. Explosions are quite the eye candy to get drawn into, only other game that had good explosions was C&C 3
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 14:04 Post subject: |
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| shadak wrote: | I miss base building too  ... Its fun and full of action but It just doesnt feel its gonna last long. |
Same here and the game sure feels "heavy" on high settings.
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wawrzul
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CrossWire
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 14:23 Post subject: |
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Can anyone tell me when the game starts? At the moment I'm just getting lead around the docks while the comuter plays the game, my participation is about 1%
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 14:45 Post subject: |
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| CrossWire wrote: | | Can anyone tell me when the game starts? At the moment I'm just getting lead around the docks while the comuter plays the game, my participation is about 1% |
yeah , the game has a lot of cutscenes.
I've played one hour last night and liked it , but then i started to get bored. Maybe i'll give it another try on weekend.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 14:55 Post subject: |
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I got 21 fps on average in the benchmark.
Dx10 mode, max detail, 1680x1050,4xAA,4xAF
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The game runs very good tho, only in the last 2 missions of the campaign there is some bad slowdown.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 15:29 Post subject: |
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The games seems smoother on the missions that in the benchmark. Anyway it's too heavy nonetheless. This an rts not a next gen dx10 fps.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 15:33 Post subject: |
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Ya fuck what the game says about performance on your rig. I turned on full AA and Anisotropy(sp?) with high textures and I handle it just fine.
And you know what else? The hell with the whole game, just keep calling in air strikes and watch the explosions! YA!!!! *boom boom boom boom*
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 15:54 Post subject: |
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its even worse. the dual monitor stuff seems to be DX10 only AND MULTIplayer-only....
what the hell?
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 16:11 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: | I think this game is great, and like Ground Control 2, it has a lot of tactical depth. People who want basebuilding should just go back to crappy C&C3, where just about the only thing matters is strength in numbers.
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What the fuck ??
Supcom ???
COH ??
Warhammer ??
ETc etc
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CrossWire
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 16:12 Post subject: |
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Ah! I have just found out what's missing here, apparently when they where printing the DVD cases for this some fool went and printed GAME on the box when it should have been VIDEO. This gets number 2 in my top of the plops waste of time downloads. Hehe, it even makes C&C look good.
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