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Karmeck




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Sep 2007 11:05    Post subject:
What is this talk about "being best, having the best" What about having fun?


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Nakitu




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Sep 2007 11:34    Post subject:
Well everyone wanna be the best.Its in human nature and online games are about competition. It seams i missed few things.
Elite players can board shuttles that transport them quickly to hard-to-reach corners of London
Elite players get access to more gametypes; plebs not allowed into servers or areas where those gametypes are operating
These are 2 more reasons that i as guild owner wouldnt allow pebs to join. Elitez can transport quick while pebs cant. So in other words you are going to "dungeon" with youre guild, and you as elitz will be there quickly and then wait for peebs to arrive 15-20-30 min. That sounds like fun. As guild owner why would you need pebs that dont have access to all the areas? Pebs are useless because some areas are off limit to them.
And what does this mean? Elite players will get new content each month, such as new monsters, new gametypes, new items, and so on
So as peeb you wont have access to addons new weapons are areas? Pebs game will be all the time the same with no changes or i got something wrong here?
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upstart_69




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Sep 2007 11:39    Post subject:
Nakitu wrote:
All mmorpgs are about unique items for youre car. Everyone wants to stand out and look diffrent not generic like rest of "noobs". Dudes that pay for game will get uniques and the most powerfull wepons meaning they will own people who have generic equip. Lets spin it up a bit. I have a guild in this game and im paying a subscription to be able to have guild open and i know that people who pay for playing have best equip and weapons, these all are facts, do you think ill let some dudes who are not paying for game, therefore have crap equip compared to paying people, join my guild?


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Bill Roper: While players will be able to customize the basic appearance of their character to a degree upon creation by adjusting elements such as face shapes, skin tone, eye shapes and color and hair style and coloring (the final feature set is as yet undetermined), the real customization comes through playing the game. Hellgate: London is an item-heavy game, meaning that we love kicking out a TON of different weapons, armor, accessories, and so forth during every session. We utilize randomization and dynamic generation in almost every area of the game, and as one example, with over 100 base weapons this means that the potential combinations start numbering in the millions when we?re all done. To allow players to customize their characters, we?re using a ?mod? system that allows specific modification of these randomly created items.


So yeah, I don't think you will see a ton of 'noobs' with generic equipment running around.


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Nakitu




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Sep 2007 11:51    Post subject:
All games have tons of equip and all the shit looks almost the same expect uniques. You should know that if you played mmorpgs. I can bet you there wont be 1mill diffrent looking weapons.You shouldent belive everything you hear. Look at Oblivion or Bioshock with every game will be different. Laughing

I checked main site now. Are there only 2 classes in this game? On site under classes it says Templar and Cabalist only.Oh and elitz will get new classes but it doesnt say their names.
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Rhymfaxe




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Sep 2007 13:25    Post subject:
Templar -> Guardian and Blademaster
Cabalist -> Summoner and Evoker
Hunter -> Engineer and Marksman

There are mention of 3 subscriber only classes in the wiki, but i think its jsut speculation as Bill Roper didn't mention them in the "elite" list which describes what subscribers get over non-subscribers.

Also..."waaah waaah charging for both the game and a subscription". The monthy fee could be videos of your sodomizing yourself with cactuses if they could get people to pay it. Apparently alot of people don't mind $15 a month. "Its just not right :¨(" Grow up.
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upstart_69




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Sep 2007 13:25    Post subject:
Nakitu wrote:
All games have tons of equip and all the shit looks almost the same expect uniques. You should know that if you played mmorpgs. I can bet you there wont be 1mill diffrent looking weapons.You shouldent belive everything you hear. Look at Oblivion or Bioshock with every game will be different. Laughing

I checked main site now. Are there only 2 classes in this game? On site under classes it says Templar and Cabalist only.Oh and elitz will get new classes but it doesnt say their names.


Dude, get a grip. You must really have nothing better to do than rag on a game for every (preconceived) flaw it has. If GW is so great, go play that game non-stop instead of bugging ppl on a thread dedicated to game (obviously) you already hate before even trying. If there is one thing worse than fanboyism, it is whatever you have, a blind obsession with hating a game. Move on already.


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bigdady92




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Sep 2007 23:02    Post subject:
Y'all are getting yoru panties twisted in a bind here.

Look folks you get the same game as I do if you don't pay. You get the same toys, same items, but I as a paying customer get a bit more of everything.

Can we both play together? Yes
Can we both get online and go in dungeons? Mostly yes, there a few paid only but not many
Do we get the same items? 99% yes, I get a bit more
Do we both get access to banks, auction houses, guild? yes. I get a bit more and I can create a guild. Whipdedoo.
When new content comes out do we both get it? I get it first you get it a bit later, we both can play when it comes through the pipe.


I'm playing the exact same game as a nonsubscriber but I get a bit more. This is like going to an amusement park and getting a Fast Pass that gets you on rides quicker. I ride the same damn ride as you but since I paid more money for it I get to do it first.

People have been clamoring for this for a while. If you don't want to upgrade to SuperAlpha Bonus Club++ Status then don't. We can both go out, kill fucking demons, and go home at the same time. I just drive a Cadillac while you take the bus. That's it.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Sep 2007 23:48    Post subject:
Lol and here starts the flaming, and we made it to page 7!!!

I kinda stopped following this game awile ago cause the trailers I saw weren't looking all that great with the really stupid looking guns etc but I'm not gunna let that cloud my judgment. I always welcome another DII clone and I hope this one will finally live up to it. I miss those days of joining games with friends and doin Mephisto runs hoping to get a unique. So all I really care about is them doing the item drops and collectables right as well as the trading system, that's what kept the game going so long.


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stoper




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 00:34    Post subject:
I see battles Plebs vs. Ellites in this game Razz
Many plebs unleashing their fury against the rich ellite bastard Smile
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Spiderman
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 00:40    Post subject:
I say , Welcome to the world of nazi games with dx10 multiplayer third world discrimination mode . The first one is Crysis with they dx9 only or dx10 only servers , the second this game .
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Karmeck




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 01:12    Post subject:
I bet if the Internet was as accessible back then the 3d and 3dfx card started to be a minimum system requirement we woud see the same posts as the one BlueSkyz posted. This, just like back then, is the beginning of a new age in gaming, a year or 2 by now we will be back were we are all happy and we bass the kidz that still only have dx9 cards and wonder if their top of the line dx9 card can run game X on minemun with sli.

It is really fun to read old PC gaming magazines, and see how hyped they were abou the first games in 3d, and that was not that long ago.


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clragon




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 02:03    Post subject:
stoper wrote:
I see battles Plebs vs. Ellites in this game Razz
Many plebs unleashing their fury against the rich ellite bastard Smile


and if they can't beat them, they'll join them.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 04:56    Post subject:
If what I read in this thread is correct it just seems like a "Elite" player get a few bonuses like access to higher level items but if it's possible to upgrade the normal items one find one could just upgrade those to be even better than the "Elite" pre-made high level items albeit it would take a little more time.
(If it's as dynamic as I heard I can just imagine a skilled player using upgraded starting equipment to kill "Elites" whom are using pre-made high level equipment without upgrades.)

Though it's not the only bonus the so called "Elite" players get but if the item system is upgradable like that it would balance things out a little. Smile
(Ofcourse the other bonuses would be harder to match such as the ability to create guilds, quick access to special and hard to reach locations, monthly bonuses and extra content, double the item storage and the ability to create alot more characters.)

The game itself sounds kinda interesting but I'll wait to see how things turn out before deciding about buying it.

...They sure know how to attract players though, especially with wallpapers like this.
http://hardwired.hu/img/wg/2/313/HELLGATE_London_238.jpg
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Unauthorized




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 12:56    Post subject:
The "Elite" will get more than " something small" "just a little more". Just wait for it. It's cute and all that to think that "plebs" and "elites" will live happily together and play on the same terms. Plebs will be that gimped and retarded little cousin no Elite wants to tag along on the fun stuff.

If there is no LAN mode this game will mostly have "Elite" kiddos who pay with their daddys cc and snobby "know-it-all"s. Plebs will be the retarded spam kiddo who join and /emote laugh on everyone passing by *100 or casual joe trying to find out what all the fuzz is all about, and guess what, hes stuck in fubar-land with the spam crews and get his "fix" of the game and totally signs up for a subscription. Laughing
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Spiderman
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 13:15    Post subject:
Unauthorized wrote:
The "Elite" will get more than " something small" "just a little more". Just wait for it. It's cute and all that to think that "plebs" and "elites" will live happily together and play on the same terms. Plebs will be that gimped and retarded little cousin no Elite wants to tag along on the fun stuff.

If there is no LAN mode this game will mostly have "Elite" kiddos who pay with their daddys cc and snobby "know-it-all"s. Plebs will be the retarded spam kiddo who join and /emote laugh on everyone passing by *100 or casual joe trying to find out what all the fuzz is all about, and guess what, hes stuck in fubar-land with the spam crews and get his "fix" of the game and totally signs up for a subscription. Laughing

you forgot to add those lovely kids with Balls Of Steal soundboards
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 15:26    Post subject:
https://accounts.hellgatelondon.com/PingAccount/invite_signup.jsp

New chance to participate in the beta event. Smile
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Unauthorized




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 15:33    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
https://accounts.hellgatelondon.com/PingAccount/invite_signup.jsp

New chance to participate in the beta event. Smile


Thank you. But with my usual luck this is another piss in the wind Very Happy
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 15:40    Post subject:
Hehe one could always use multiple e-mail adresses. Twisted Evil
( Not really recommended as they might just block multiple attempt from the same IP. Exclamation )
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SirSmokesAlot




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 19:30    Post subject:
Just got my beta code from GameStop from the pre-order program. Downloading client now YIPEEEE


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Ace170780




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Sep 2007 23:17    Post subject:
ummm how can you be downloading client when the client isn't available yet ? I am also in the beta with gamestop....


Either way give a mini review in a couple of days based off this beta.
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spajdr




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Sep 2007 07:04    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
https://accounts.hellgatelondon.com/PingAccount/invite_signup.jsp

New chance to participate in the beta event. Smile


403 forbidden
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upstart_69




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Sep 2007 07:28    Post subject:
Hmm...I hope that pre-order program doesnt forget about me because i pre-ordered from crappy walmart. I just wasn't into the armor dye colors from gamestop or bestbuy, and walmart is advertised as part of the program too. Not too hyped about the beta client(not into spoiling any of the experience beforehand) but all the other extras from the pre-order I am waiting for, none too patiently.


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Sep 2007 10:52    Post subject:
For some reason, I have the feeling this is going to be yet another hyped up failure. I was excited about two worlds, looked great, sounded great, great ideas and concepts, then finally when they released it, was nothing other than a crap fest. Though to say the least, I'll keep my head high in hopes of an RPG that lives up to what it's supposed to be, haven't had one in years.


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Sep 2007 12:20    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
For some reason, I have the feeling this is going to be yet another hyped up failure. I was excited about two worlds, looked great, sounded great, great ideas and concepts, then finally when they released it, was nothing other than a crap fest. Though to say the least, I'll keep my head high in hopes of an RPG that lives up to what it's supposed to be, haven't had one in years.

Well the patch 1.5 thats 1.1gig big makes this game playable
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Ace170780




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Sep 2007 13:22    Post subject:
yeah no idea I created my account & been getting this message since last night.


"Thank you for pre-ordering the game. Preparations are being made to commence the Beta Test very soon. You will receive a notification when the doors are open."

yet the beta has started....
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Ace170780




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Sep 2007 23:23    Post subject:
if there is no lan play they should of just made an mmo instead. I want to be able to play this on the weekend with my friends when we decide to have a mini lan. WTF are gaming companies thinking that people dont do lans.
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rampart




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Sep 2007 23:32    Post subject:
I signed up for the open beta but i don't expect to get in just like the warhammer beta. I really want to know how they even select people anyway.
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SkoopyDoo




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Sep 2007 23:42    Post subject:
rampart wrote:
I signed up for the open beta but i don't expect to get in just like the warhammer beta. I really want to know how they even select people anyway.


totaly random, they even invited me for the closed beta
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bigdady92




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 00:03    Post subject:
Ace170780 wrote:
if there is no lan play they should of just made an mmo instead. I want to be able to play this on the weekend with my friends when we decide to have a mini lan. WTF are gaming companies thinking that people dont do lans.

they did make an MMO. Just one where you can't have unlimited characters, unlimited bag space, and guild creation.

Other than that you can create a player, play with friends, have fun with it. You want more? you gotta pay.
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Ace170780




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 00:27    Post subject:
I actually dont want more I already know what im getting out of it. Just disapointing that there is no LAN support. But I never really saw this game as an MMO. Ah well.
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