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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Aug 2007 12:52    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
I agree with Kamikaze, that gif in your sig was funny for about 5 seconds. Now it's just annoying.

oh well nevermind, just remembered there's the beatiful ignore button.


yeah pretty annoying, but i use ad blocker
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Kurosaki




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Aug 2007 13:32    Post subject:
upstart_69 wrote:
Farnus wrote:
poullou wrote:


Did you play TF2 as well? Very Happy


nah...just UT3 ( ONS Map ) and Crysis ( Singeplayer ) :/


Shit why the :/ after crysis?? I'd give my left nut to play a demo of Crysis right now. I am fuckin envious as hell. Razz


whoops...wrong smiley ^^ ...i wanted to make this one: "Very Happy" ....happens Wink

made a picture while i was waiting in the line for the 15 minutes freegaming Very Happy:

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GTX




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Aug 2007 21:04    Post subject:
singleplayer demo coming september 25
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Aug 2007 21:22    Post subject:
September 25!!!! WOW...that's way to late, should be out like next week end if you ask me. THATS A MONTH AWAY! Hu huhuhu. Oh well...I guess some more modding SH4 and playing BS will shorten the wait Wink


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chiv




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Aug 2007 21:38    Post subject:
id put good money down betting that the demo is probably going to be over 2 gigs or some shit Very Happy i dont think developers understand the whole CONCEPT of the demo... brief look at the game WITHOUT having to practically download THE FULL GAME SIZE!!


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Freakness
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 01:11    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
id put good money down betting that the demo is probably going to be over 2 gigs or some shit Very Happy i dont think developers understand the whole CONCEPT of the demo... brief look at the game WITHOUT having to practically download THE FULL GAME SIZE!!
Full game size will be 15X bigger. The game has singleplayer mode so it has to offer only the small fracture of whats coming. Just like the movie - you dont watch the whole movie and then decide if you want to buy it or not - you buy after you watch a small fracture = trailer.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 01:25    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
September 25!!!! WOW...that's way to late, should be out like next week end if you ask me. THATS A MONTH AWAY! Hu huhuhu. Oh well...I guess some more modding SH4 and playing BS will shorten the wait Wink

Plus MOHA on the fifth.
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ZezoS




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 03:34    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
CaptainCox wrote:
September 25!!!! WOW...that's way to late, should be out like next week end if you ask me. THATS A MONTH AWAY! Hu huhuhu. Oh well...I guess some more modding SH4 and playing BS will shorten the wait Wink

Plus MOHA on the fifth.

Plus Stranglehold on the fourth.
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tiedie




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 03:39    Post subject:
i can wait to play this game


what typo?
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chiv




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 09:11    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
Full game size will be 15X bigger. The game has singleplayer mode so it has to offer only the small fracture of whats coming. Just like the movie - you dont watch the whole movie and then decide if you want to buy it or not - you buy after you watch a small fracture = trailer.


that makes no sense whatsoever...

have you seen the filesizes of demos lately? for high profile high quality games, 1.5 gigs seems to be the standard now doesnt it? 900mb on the EXTREME low end... full games are about 4 gigs or some are reaching 6

like hell they are 15x... that might be the case 10 years ago, but this is 2007... since broadband has become the standard, developers are getting lazy and think massive filesizes for demos are acceptable...

to compare demos to trailers when it comes to size and relation to finished product, thats just stupid by any measure... well done.


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dirtymurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 10:58    Post subject:
2gigs takes me about 30mins to download here in the UK, so not too fussed about that. No capping or download limits either.


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chiv




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 11:27    Post subject:
how lucky you are not to live in a third world country like i do, but how fast ones net is, wasnt really what the discussion was about... i was just saying i expect the demo to be massive, and that game demos in general have because massive in size due to lazy developers, thats all.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 11:31    Post subject:
Man, I remember when demos were 10-50MB and you had HUGE levels are area to explore. Remember remember the Doom demo (err sorry, shareware), you had an entire fucking chapter in there.

Nowadays, if it has a 15min level, everyone cheers. Neutral
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Spiderman
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 11:48    Post subject:
yeah the good ye old Shareware days Crying or Very sad
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ilovebooze




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 12:06    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Man, I remember when demos were 10-50MB and you had HUGE levels are area to explore. Remember remember the Doom demo (err sorry, shareware), you had an entire fucking chapter in there.

Nowadays, if it has a 15min level, everyone cheers. Neutral


Reminds me of Shadow Warrior 50-days-Shareware or Duke Nukem 3D Very Happy. The good ol' days. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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chiv




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 13:39    Post subject:
where as i shall always remember quake shareware...


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Freakness
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 15:35    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
Freakness wrote:
Full game size will be 15X bigger. The game has singleplayer mode so it has to offer only the small fracture of whats coming. Just like the movie - you dont watch the whole movie and then decide if you want to buy it or not - you buy after you watch a small fracture = trailer.


that makes no sense whatsoever...

have you seen the filesizes of demos lately? for high profile high quality games, 1.5 gigs seems to be the standard now doesnt it? 900mb on the EXTREME low end... full games are about 4 gigs or some are reaching 6

like hell they are 15x... that might be the case 10 years ago, but this is 2007... since broadband has become the standard, developers are getting lazy and think massive filesizes for demos are acceptable...

to compare demos to trailers when it comes to size and relation to finished product, thats just stupid by any measure... well done.
4 gigs games? Haha in what year are you living in? Games now take DVD9's, sometimes DVD9X2 unless its 3dgayvilla. Two gigs for a demo is nothing. Big demo I would say is 5 gigs. Demo's are gettin bigger, because the games are getting bigger. Higher texture resolution, higher quality sound, bigger maps etc. Thats how its suppose to be and your complain is stupid.
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funame




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 15:45    Post subject:
aha?
so what was the last 5 gig demo?
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OfF3nSiV3




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 15:48    Post subject:
what's the problem with the size?
they're offering a full level, remember what a full level was on farcry/crysis? it's a whole island or something with high quality textures and modelling
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chiv




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 16:05    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
chiv wrote:
Freakness wrote:
Full game size will be 15X bigger. The game has singleplayer mode so it has to offer only the small fracture of whats coming. Just like the movie - you dont watch the whole movie and then decide if you want to buy it or not - you buy after you watch a small fracture = trailer.


that makes no sense whatsoever...

have you seen the filesizes of demos lately? for high profile high quality games, 1.5 gigs seems to be the standard now doesnt it? 900mb on the EXTREME low end... full games are about 4 gigs or some are reaching 6

like hell they are 15x... that might be the case 10 years ago, but this is 2007... since broadband has become the standard, developers are getting lazy and think massive filesizes for demos are acceptable...

to compare demos to trailers when it comes to size and relation to finished product, thats just stupid by any measure... well done.
4 gigs games? Haha in what year are you living in? Games now take DVD9's, sometimes DVD9X2 unless its 3dgayvilla. Two gigs for a demo is nothing. Big demo I would say is 5 gigs. Demo's are gettin bigger, because the games are getting bigger. Higher texture resolution, higher quality sound, bigger maps etc. Thats how its suppose to be and your complain is stupid.



how many dvd9 or double dvd9 pc games have come out in the last year? most are still dvd5. dispite what you think demos arent getting bigger, they are getting smaller.. you used to be able to play full levels, these days most demos you get to play the first stage of a level, or get 1 track to race on with only 1 or 2 laps... gameplay in demos are getting smaller and smaller, and the filesize gets larger and larger... to use your 'trailer' analogy, its like saying a 2 minute trailer would be acceptable being 500mb for standard definition.. thats bs. There are compromises to be made, sure, like you said textures and model quality are increasing, but the bulk of the filesizes of demos are not primarily due to these things, but rather to lazyness and indifference.


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Freakness
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 16:18    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
Freakness wrote:
chiv wrote:


that makes no sense whatsoever...

have you seen the filesizes of demos lately? for high profile high quality games, 1.5 gigs seems to be the standard now doesnt it? 900mb on the EXTREME low end... full games are about 4 gigs or some are reaching 6

like hell they are 15x... that might be the case 10 years ago, but this is 2007... since broadband has become the standard, developers are getting lazy and think massive filesizes for demos are acceptable...

to compare demos to trailers when it comes to size and relation to finished product, thats just stupid by any measure... well done.
4 gigs games? Haha in what year are you living in? Games now take DVD9's, sometimes DVD9X2 unless its 3dgayvilla. Two gigs for a demo is nothing. Big demo I would say is 5 gigs. Demo's are gettin bigger, because the games are getting bigger. Higher texture resolution, higher quality sound, bigger maps etc. Thats how its suppose to be and your complain is stupid.



how many dvd9 or double dvd9 pc games have come out in the last year? most are still dvd5. dispite what you think demos arent getting bigger, they are getting smaller.. you used to be able to play full levels, these days most demos you get to play the first stage of a level, or get 1 track to race on with only 1 or 2 laps... gameplay in demos are getting smaller and smaller, and the filesize gets larger and larger... to use your 'trailer' analogy, its like saying a 2 minute trailer would be acceptable being 500mb for standard definition.. thats bs. There are compromises to be made, sure, like you said textures and model quality are increasing, but the bulk of the filesizes of demos are not primarily due to these things, but rather to lazyness and indifference.
Those games who come out on DVD5 are low profile games usualy now. RSV, CMRD, MFS10, DMOMAM, BIOSHOCK, AOW, SDA and shitloads more are DVD9. Also Crysis demo will feature multiplayer too most likely so take your bitchin elsewhere.
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Areius




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 16:26    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
Freakness wrote:
chiv wrote:


that makes no sense whatsoever...

have you seen the filesizes of demos lately? for high profile high quality games, 1.5 gigs seems to be the standard now doesnt it? 900mb on the EXTREME low end... full games are about 4 gigs or some are reaching 6

like hell they are 15x... that might be the case 10 years ago, but this is 2007... since broadband has become the standard, developers are getting lazy and think massive filesizes for demos are acceptable...

to compare demos to trailers when it comes to size and relation to finished product, thats just stupid by any measure... well done.
4 gigs games? Haha in what year are you living in? Games now take DVD9's, sometimes DVD9X2 unless its 3dgayvilla. Two gigs for a demo is nothing. Big demo I would say is 5 gigs. Demo's are gettin bigger, because the games are getting bigger. Higher texture resolution, higher quality sound, bigger maps etc. Thats how its suppose to be and your complain is stupid.



how many dvd9 or double dvd9 pc games have come out in the last year? most are still dvd5. dispite what you think demos arent getting bigger, they are getting smaller.. you used to be able to play full levels, these days most demos you get to play the first stage of a level, or get 1 track to race on with only 1 or 2 laps... gameplay in demos are getting smaller and smaller, and the filesize gets larger and larger... to use your 'trailer' analogy, its like saying a 2 minute trailer would be acceptable being 500mb for standard definition.. thats bs. There are compromises to be made, sure, like you said textures and model quality are increasing, but the bulk of the filesizes of demos are not primarily due to these things, but rather to lazyness and indifference.


Let's say demo is 2GB. Then I expect full game around 5GB at max. Remember that the game engine takes most of the space. As for the rest it's just placing objects on a map which can be hold in very small files. The game engine also needs to be placed in the demo. Objects can be big as well, but don't make a game to fit on two DVD9's.
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Spiderman
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 16:35    Post subject:
Wow people you must get really bored , fighting about the size of the demo Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 16:41    Post subject:
Far Cry demo was 475.8 MB, the full game itself was 4? gigs on disc. I'd say Crysis demo wont be a disaster.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 16:52    Post subject:
will we all give a shit about the demo size, no we'll all dload it anyway.


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clragon




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 16:53    Post subject:
Kamikaze666 wrote:
will we all give a shit about the demo size, no we'll all dload it anyway.


lol unless it pulls another bioshock...
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ZezoS




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 17:04    Post subject:
clragon wrote:
Kamikaze666 wrote:
will we all give a shit about the demo size, no we'll all dload it anyway.


lol unless it pulls another bioshock...

online activation or not, ppl will download the demo anyways...

1- If it comes with online activation, ppl will d/l to see the game 'till it's cracked;
2- If not, ppl will d/l to get the taste of the full game 'till the release, wich is 2 months ahead
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 20:40    Post subject:
The coming Crysis demo contains the entire first level!

Source
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 22:06    Post subject:
It's EA, it won't pull a Bioshock. EA are way too much of a cowards to even think about that option. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 22:18    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
It's EA, it won't pull a Bioshock. EA are way too much of a cowards to even think about that option. Razz

medal of honor airborne demo.. lol
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