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 Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 08:27 Post subject: |
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| metzzler wrote: | About this censored version in Germany...
When i buy this one but i WILL install the UNCUT ISO and will install it with the KEY of my bought version
could that be working ??
so that my game is UNCUT (because i live in Germany and here i can only get the DAMM CUT VERSION in store) |
a) could and should work
b) spare yourself the trouble, go to a nearby gamestop and ask if they have the uncut version, just as i did here in düsseldorf, or order it from austria (for example gameware.at).
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chiv
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 08:34 Post subject: |
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its bloody stupid that germany should get the censored stuff... what happened man  after that whole war thing, the world did its best to turn you lot into fucking pansies, its so sad...
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 08:37 Post subject: |
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I think it started with those killings in that school in East Germany (was it in the East?, no matter) some years back...or? can't really remember...but was something like that. A bit like Columbine in the states, thing is, the German government thought they might fix the prob by censoring games and stuff...They created this word "KILLER SPIELE" = "KILLER GAMES"
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/04/26/germany.shooting/
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Cohen
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 08:39 Post subject: |
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I heard online that all fps games depicting violence against humanoid characters get instabanned in Germany? :S
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Cohen
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 08:43 Post subject: |
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How heavily censored is the CUT version? does anyone have a bullet point list or anything?
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 08:44 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | General Information
General information about the BPjM (Federal Department for Media Harmful to Young Persons)
We are an official administrative authority of the German government called "Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien" (BPjM) ("Federal Department for Media Harmful to Young Persons"). Our task is to protect children and adolescents in Germany from any media which might contain harmful or dangerous contents. This work is authorized by the "Youth Protection Law" (Jugendschutzgesetz - JuSchG).
Media monitored by us are, among others: videos, DVDs, computer games, audio records and CDs, print media and internet sites.
1.) Computer games
games, whereby the injury and/or killing of people is depicted as one of many possible objects of the game and the result of fighting is presented without blood;
games in which elements other than acts of violence against people play a significant role;
games in which events involving killing people are portrayed so as to be distanced, that is, in a form which does not suggest parallels to reality;
games in which events involving killing are solely portrayed against creatures which are rather unlike human beings;
games which also contain elements of horror and spluttering, but in which parts not containing violence are decisive for the game, and whereby the horror element must not be so designed that by reason of the particular brutality, the other elements of the game recede into the background.
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http://www.bundespruefstelle.de/bmfsfj/generator/bpjm/information-in-english.html
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chiv
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 08:45 Post subject: |
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we had manhunt banned in nz... my parents are german, so im not ripping on you guys, i just think its really sad whats happened to you guys... not just games, but movies get the fuck censored out of them as well too, dont they id hate to live there. but atleast youll always have piracy!
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 08:46 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: | Checked back 5 pages, but I didn't see this posted (from http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/home.html):
| Quote: | Starting immediately, we will be upping the activation count to a 5 by 5 plan. We will be raising the maximum amount of computers a user can have BioShock installed on simultaneously from 2 to 5, and allowing a user to reinstall BioShock on each of those computers from 3 times to 5 times. Also, we have in the works a revoke tool which you will be able to run on your machine if you want to free up that key and move it to to another computer (this works very much like Steam or iTunes system). We are also working with SecuROM and 2K customer service, so that when you do need to call in support problems, you get answers to your questions faster, without much waiting or being bounced around. SecuROM has been given much more autonomy to help fix your problems quickly and effectively. I am personally sorry for anyone who got bounced around in the past couple days (I even think I contributed to this problem) and we're going to make sure that does not happen in the future.
And as for widescreen, we also want to say we completely understand a user's desire to augment their FOV. BioShock is a harrowing experience, but we don't want anyone to feel limited (or motion sick!). So we are in the process of working on an official PC patch to give widescreen PC users a choice to expand their horizontal FOV, and are investigating creating a similar update for the 360. |
Glad to see that they are at least admiting their faults, and fixing up the horrible launch problems. |
Yeah guess this "quick fix" will do until a cracker finds a way to pack the game without activation crap, custom installer or whatever. Pisses me off that I'll still have to burn a dvd and put it in the case to use instead of the retail dvd, but shitheads will be shitheads.
Anyways I'll be much more watchful because of this whole incident. It's too bad because I had a whole list of games to buy for pc right when they hit the shelves(crysis, world in conflict, timeshift, hellgate:london). Now once again we have to carefully watch which protection each uses-which I thought was over with after starforce got dumped by practically everyone.
And this DEFINITELY puts my pre-ordering days to an end...even despite the big daddy figure which I still display with pride.
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 08:48 Post subject: |
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LOL oh dear, that really sucks.
Judging by the guidelines posted in that quote by cox, im surprise it didnt get BioBanned on release!
I cant wait to see how they censored pretty much the whole game!
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 08:49 Post subject: |
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Would downing an ISO and picking up a key at places like gamekeystore (I know that is no longer around but using it as an example) solve the problem?
I don't know, just thinking outloud I suppose.
| Vincez wrote: | My product key doesn't work!!!!
I tried *****-*****-*****-*****-***** from the .nfo but it says it's unvalid... plz help me |
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upstart_69
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 08:51 Post subject: |
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| shambk wrote: | Would downing an ISO and picking up a key at places like gamekeystore (I know that is no longer around but using it as an example) solve the problem?
I don't know, just thinking outloud I suppose. |
Not until they crack the activation. Reportedly, it makes sure the real legit DVD is in the drive as well...part of who knows how much data gets sent to Securom/2K about you.
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 09:02 Post subject: |
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| upstart_69 wrote: | | shambk wrote: | Would downing an ISO and picking up a key at places like gamekeystore (I know that is no longer around but using it as an example) solve the problem?
I don't know, just thinking outloud I suppose. |
Not until they crack the activation. Reportedly, it makes sure the real legit DVD is in the drive as well...part of who knows how much data gets sent to Securom/2K about you. |
That's for someone to find out.
The activation isn't due until AFTER installation, right?
So you could just switch the DVDs for install/activation...
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 09:11 Post subject: |
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| |ExE| wrote: | | upstart_69 wrote: | | shambk wrote: | Would downing an ISO and picking up a key at places like gamekeystore (I know that is no longer around but using it as an example) solve the problem?
I don't know, just thinking outloud I suppose. |
Not until they crack the activation. Reportedly, it makes sure the real legit DVD is in the drive as well...part of who knows how much data gets sent to Securom/2K about you. |
That's for someone to find out.
The activation isn't due until AFTER installation, right?
So you could just switch the DVDs for install/activation... |
This is true...so killing the task as it asks for activation and manually copying some missing files/running some emulator should probably do it. Just wish the crackers were as fast as they were with eliminating the steam validation with hl2 as this newage securom BS.
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 09:13 Post subject: |
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| upstart_69 wrote: | | |ExE| wrote: | | upstart_69 wrote: |
Not until they crack the activation. Reportedly, it makes sure the real legit DVD is in the drive as well...part of who knows how much data gets sent to Securom/2K about you. |
That's for someone to find out.
The activation isn't due until AFTER installation, right?
So you could just switch the DVDs for install/activation... |
This is true...so killing the task as it asks for activation and manually copying some missing files/running some emulator should probably do it. Just wish the crackers were as fast as they were with eliminating the steam validation with hl2 as this newage securom BS. |
Same Securom stuff on steam.
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 09:15 Post subject: |
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It checks if the original DVD is inserted at the end of the installation. If it does not detect a original DVD, the game gets uninstalled.
"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important." -John Carmack, iD Software
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 09:39 Post subject: |
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I'm gonna wait a week or two, if no realease by then I'LL DOWNLOAD THE GAME TO MY X-BOXHAHA IN YOUR FACES!!!! This protection is ridiculous and I will not support it, if they change it I'd actually buy it. Even if I didn't had a 360 I would never support that kind of bollocks and I'd rather never play the game, sure my loss but thats my problem no?
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 09:40 Post subject: |
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| g33b33 wrote: | | metzzler wrote: | | sgtLENIN wrote: |
Think i'm gonna buy it today if we dont see a release. |
if you are german please test it if you can use the key form the bought version
to install the UNCUTTED.ISO |
The SECUROM hasnt been cracked! Hello? McFly? |
OH OKAY i explain it again...
i like to buy the cut version and like to install with THAT KEY my leeched version
I know at the end of the install process he is checking patch from the internet
and at this time I MUST change the DVD from leeched on to bought one
when its accepting my BOUGHT DVD and i can instert the key everything ist okay
now please CHECK THIS!!
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 09:48 Post subject: |
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This is interesting:
| Quote: | ok i tested a little bit. I installed bioshock with newes daemon tools and newest yasu. At the end of the setup the patcher is started. When you click anything now to download the patch the install will be removed again. so i tried again an before i clicked to start the patcher i renamed my bioshock folder this time. The patcher gave me this error message again but setup couldn't delete the install because the directory was renamed:P
But my Installation had no executable. I looked for the patcher executable on the dvd image to try to get it to work manually but it didn't work. But i noticed that the description of the patcher executable said 'SecuROM EXE Downloader'. The patcher is not a real patcher it only downloads the original game executable.
I looked for the bioshock.exe on the internet and tried one that came with some fake crack. I was lucky because it seems to be the original bioshock.exe. I started it and the game said that it needs to be activated online and asked for a key. I just entered a few numbers and wanted to see what happens. I got an error message because the key was wrong but a new window came up with an offline Activation option=) I clicked it and it gave me a code for activation via telephone:P
That means that we only need a keygen that generates a key from the activation code and the game scould run fine without any dvd or image. |
From here: http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=81610&highlight=Bioshock&page=2
"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important." -John Carmack, iD Software
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 09:53 Post subject: |
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| sgtLENIN wrote: | This is interesting:
| Quote: | ok i tested a little bit. I installed bioshock with newes daemon tools and newest yasu. At the end of the setup the patcher is started. When you click anything now to download the patch the install will be removed again. so i tried again an before i clicked to start the patcher i renamed my bioshock folder this time. The patcher gave me this error message again but setup couldn't delete the install because the directory was renamed:P
But my Installation had no executable. I looked for the patcher executable on the dvd image to try to get it to work manually but it didn't work. But i noticed that the description of the patcher executable said 'SecuROM EXE Downloader'. The patcher is not a real patcher it only downloads the original game executable.
I looked for the bioshock.exe on the internet and tried one that came with some fake crack. I was lucky because it seems to be the original bioshock.exe. I started it and the game said that it needs to be activated online and asked for a key. I just entered a few numbers and wanted to see what happens. I got an error message because the key was wrong but a new window came up with an offline Activation option=) I clicked it and it gave me a code for activation via telephone:P
That means that we only need a keygen that generates a key from the activation code and the game scould run fine without any dvd or image. |
From here: http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=81610&highlight=Bioshock&page=2 |
Well this is pretty much the same we discovered yesterday.
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007 09:57 Post subject: |
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Got the game now, got it installed and patched, but I can't register because my Serial is invalid, now this is a store bought CE which have never been unpacked yet my serial is deemed invalid by securom when I try to register.
Well enjoy my 40 pounds 2k, apparently you've earned it.
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