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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:26    Post subject:
Banelord wrote:
Frozen_flames wrote:
Banelord wrote:
maybe...

i considered buying it, and im against this online activation for a single player game so im not bothering. ill save my cash for Hellgate London.

if they threw in a co-op mode, game matching service, and no DVD in drive, it might be worth $50 to me, but as it stands its only worth $20 to me. maybe ill buy Half Life 2 instead, still havent played it and its now almost a deal at $20.


Get HL2, you'll be surprised how easy it is to install and activate it after you've read all the stuff about BioShock.

Keeps you busy too, up until release of a cracked bioshock. ( around 10-15 hours of gameplay, so you should be fine until there is a release ).


yea i probably will be getting HL2 soon... what bugs me is this: Steam. usually i will buy games, and if i dont like them or will never play it again, ill sell it via Amazon. but i bought Dark Messiah over Christmas and seen now how i cant sell the game because i registered via Steam for the MP (which was terrible).

so, with Bioshock and its activation, are you allowed to resell the game later?


no
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:27    Post subject:
Frozen_flames wrote:
WalkerBoh wrote:
Frozen_flames wrote:
Not to burst everyone's bubble about how crap the activation system is, but it does work the way it was designed... there still is no sign of a scene release.

Personally, I hate any type of online activation.


It's just passed one day and an half after the activation servers were up. If within a week there is no release maybe you are right. Anyway every minute pass without a release more game they sell.


exactly my point.

I'm just theorising (is that a word?) here, but my guess as to why developers and publishers alike even try to use copy-protection software or, as in the case of bioshock, activation, is just to get a head start on bought games.

Just think of it, usually the most copies will be sold within a week of release. Publishers know damn well that the game will be cracked anyway, but they still try to sell as much copies in the first week, so they get their money in.


Most copies sold actually peak up until the release of the game, there is technically no point in copy protection after the release of a game, unless you can delay a crack indefinitely, which is pretty damn hard.
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Sencom




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:28    Post subject:
well, ive spotted Bioshock for £16,00 +Shipping online, think thats a decent deal.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:40    Post subject:
Vodka-Redbull wrote:
Damn, even Dazz has it.... :E


Oh, don't worry. If everything goes right, we should be able to play it around 31.08-01.09. At least we'll get it for 15$ instead of 50$ Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:47    Post subject:
this game does not deserve so much hype argh D:!

The death system is just stupid

as i saw in a review

"Sure, the weapons and plasmids are great. But what is the real consequence of how you approach a battle if you can just re-materialize every time you’re overwhelmed? It’d be like playing Pac-Man with endless lives – what the hell would the point in that be? I don't fear for my character's safety because there is no actual final death. So, if there is no fear of death, there is really no reason to fear the environment."
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ienni




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:52    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
this game does not deserve so much hype argh D:!

The death system is just stupid

as i saw in a review

"Sure, the weapons and plasmids are great. But what is the real consequence of how you approach a battle if you can just re-materialize every time you’re overwhelmed? It’d be like playing Pac-Man with endless lives – what the hell would the point in that be? I don't fear for my character's safety because there is no actual final death. So, if there is no fear of death, there is really no reason to fear the environment."


I found in an ini file of the game the function godmode... dunno if that will deactivate the respawning function

okay edited it so that I don't sound like some moron who doesn't know what godmode means


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:53    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
this game does not deserve so much hype argh D:!

The death system is just stupid

as i saw in a review

"Sure, the weapons and plasmids are great. But what is the real consequence of how you approach a battle if you can just re-materialize every time you’re overwhelmed? It’d be like playing Pac-Man with endless lives – what the hell would the point in that be? I don't fear for my character's safety because there is no actual final death. So, if there is no fear of death, there is really no reason to fear the environment."

And what do you thinks about Prey? It was quite the same system. If you die, you are in a dream world and shoot down some dumb flying ghosts and revive at the point you died.

A question to those who finished the game already: Can you say, without spoiling too much, if a Bioshock 2 is possible?
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:54    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
this game does not deserve so much hype argh D:!

The death system is just stupid

as i saw in a review

"Sure, the weapons and plasmids are great. But what is the real consequence of how you approach a battle if you can just re-materialize every time you’re overwhelmed? It’d be like playing Pac-Man with endless lives – what the hell would the point in that be? I don't fear for my character's safety because there is no actual final death. So, if there is no fear of death, there is really no reason to fear the environment."


Well, you start with zero first aid if that's an excuse.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:55    Post subject:
cacaro wrote:
And, by the way, I found a 6 Gb file called bioshock_dd_1.0, which apparently is the DirectDrive version of Bioshock.

Has anyone tested this one?



You would still need a crack for that one, since it also uses the Activation thingy.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:55    Post subject:
Rudolph wrote:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
this game does not deserve so much hype argh D:!

The death system is just stupid

as i saw in a review

"Sure, the weapons and plasmids are great. But what is the real consequence of how you approach a battle if you can just re-materialize every time you’re overwhelmed? It’d be like playing Pac-Man with endless lives – what the hell would the point in that be? I don't fear for my character's safety because there is no actual final death. So, if there is no fear of death, there is really no reason to fear the environment."

And what do you thinks about Prey? It was quite the same system. If you die, you are in a dream world and shoot down some dumb flying ghosts and revive at the point you died.

A question to those who finished the game already: Can you say, without spoiling too much, if a Bioshock 2 is possible?


anything is possible

just like they are creating a movie called transformers 2....
if some giant superbrainiac dude escapes in it then he would create a new race of freaks or something...like I said anything is possible
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:57    Post subject:
Apparently there's a crack which actually *WORKS*.

But only on Windows xp 64 bit...

EDIT: or is it a mere fake like everything else?


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:57    Post subject:
EURO SERVER IS UP
BIOOOOOOCHOOOOOOOCKAAAAAAA

and LOL this game has the same activation system like HALO2 its makes 2 new files in the folder + adds 4 new lines in the registry and thats it

so they only need to hack the exe , the 2 new files + add a nuller for the registry and it will work OK
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FISKER_Q




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:58    Post subject:
It might be possible to get the PacSteam version to work if you can find out the difference between the retail Bioshock and the Steam bioshock.

Presumably Bioshock has some data of the serial, and it won't make that data with the steam version without an ok from Steam, which PacSteam likely will be unable to deliver.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 15:59    Post subject:
BlueSkyz wrote:
EURO SERVER IS UP
BIOOOOOOCHOOOOOOOCKAAAAAAA

and LOL this game has the same activation system like HALO2 its makes 2 new files in the folder + adds 4 new lines in the registry and thats it

so they only need to hack the exe , the 2 new files + add a nuller for the registry and it will work OK


If it was so simple we where playing the game right now and not talking shit here Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:05    Post subject:
BlueSkyz wrote:
EURO SERVER IS UP
BIOOOOOOCHOOOOOOOCKAAAAAAA

and LOL this game has the same activation system like HALO2 its makes 2 new files in the folder + adds 4 new lines in the registry and thats it

so they only need to hack the exe , the 2 new files + add a nuller for the registry and it will work OK


Why don't you do it right now?
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:06    Post subject:
Bart1983 wrote:
BlueSkyz wrote:
EURO SERVER IS UP
BIOOOOOOCHOOOOOOOCKAAAAAAA

and LOL this game has the same activation system like HALO2 its makes 2 new files in the folder + adds 4 new lines in the registry and thats it

so they only need to hack the exe , the 2 new files + add a nuller for the registry and it will work OK


If it was so simple we where playing the game right now and not talking shit here Wink
the same shit was with HAlo 2 so why the fuzz just sit , relax , drink coco and play other games that you didn`t finished , jeee people hype the shit of it like this game is the second coming of ye lord Christ ,
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:08    Post subject:
BlueSkyz wrote:
Bart1983 wrote:
BlueSkyz wrote:
EURO SERVER IS UP [PIC REMOVED]
BIOOOOOOCHOOOOOOOCKAAAAAAA

and LOL this game has the same activation system like HALO2 its makes 2 new files in the folder + adds 4 new lines in the registry and thats it

so they only need to hack the exe , the 2 new files + add a nuller for the registry and it will work OK


If it was so simple we where playing the game right now and not talking shit here Wink
the same shit was with HAlo 2 so why the fuzz just sit , relax , drink coco and play other games that you didn`t finished , jeee people hype the shit of it like this game is the second coming of ye lord Christ ,


It isn't? >_> ... <_<
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ienni




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:08    Post subject:
cacaro wrote:
Apparently there's a crack which actually *WORKS*.

But only on Windows xp 64 bit...

EDIT: or is it a mere fake like everything else?


yea fake as everything else...maybe the flame version works but No more words bout torrent versions
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:20    Post subject:
Peeps!
Just wait until the users arrive that have access to 0day channels. They will tell you that a real proper and working release is out. Until then it's totally pointless to talk about which torrent/p2p/homebrew release is working or not. It is pointless! Do not bother with these wannabe cool uploaders. They are all fake. Even if they were real, your torrents don't work, right?
So just calm yourself down. I can't wait, too, but I have to. Sad
Until next monday there will be a scene release, I think.
I will NOT buy the game until this activation crap is officially removed. Period.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:21    Post subject:
Rudolph wrote:
Peeps!
Just wait until the users arrive that have access to 0day channels. They will tell you that a real proper and working release is out. Until then it's totally pointless to talk about which torrent/p2p/homebrew release is working or not. It is pointless! Do not bother with these wannabe cool uploaders. They are all fake. Even if they were real, your torrents don't work, right?
So just calm yourself down. I can't wait, too, but I have to. Sad
Until next monday there will be a scene release, I think.
I will NOT buy the game until this activation crap is officially removed. Period.



It's also pointless to tell people not to talk about which torrent/p2p/homebrew release is working or not

since everyone is waiting for it to be released.

people are desperate to find a working version.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:25    Post subject:
so wait for it to actually pre, any release of value will not hit p2p first.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:31    Post subject:
KaiKo wrote:
so wait for it to actually pre, any release of value will not hit p2p first.
exactly
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:32    Post subject:
Buy the game, thats what I did.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:34    Post subject:
Karmeck wrote:
Buy the game, thats what I did.


Cancelled my preorder due to the protection Sad It's killing me to wait but I wont be paying to support that nonsense. It took long enough for us to get rid of Starforce.

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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:35    Post subject:
Karmeck wrote:
Buy the game, thats what I did.


i shall as well as soon as my downloads are done
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:36    Post subject:
Karmeck wrote:
Buy the game, thats what I did.

How did you buy it in sweden?
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:37    Post subject:
This damn activation shit! Why can't we go around that shit? If the activation server just patches your exe and some other files, why can't we just copy these already patched files over our files? It can't be that damn hard Evil or Very Mad

Rls it now or I have to buy it tomorrow SadSad
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:37    Post subject:
I will receive the LE version tomorrow SO I don't care about protections

all I care is will it fuck with my DVD-drive like starforce did

if it doesn't? good
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:40    Post subject:
Trolldeg wrote:
Karmeck wrote:
Buy the game, thats what I did.

How did you buy it in sweden?


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ienni




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2007 16:43    Post subject:
probably an other way to do it....

install the game and copy it to an second directory

now have it activated and see which files are larger or smaller or added or missing
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