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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 06:46    Post subject: Next Windows version just three years away
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Next Windows version just three years away

Microsoft keeping customers in loop

Last updated July 20, 2007 8:55 p.m. PT

By TODD BISHOP
P-I REPORTER

Microsoft Corp. on Friday confirmed an approximate timeline for the next Windows release, seeking to smooth things over with corporate customers stung by its past product delays.

The next version of the flagship PC operating system -- known for now by the internal code name "Windows 7" -- will be released in about three years, according to a series of presentation slides from Microsoft's global sales meeting this week.

If Microsoft can stick to the schedule, it would put the next Windows version on the market sometime in 2010. The current version, Windows Vista, experienced repeated delays before its January release, which was more than five years after its predecessor, Windows XP, came out.

The shorter timeline isn't a surprise. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has vowed that the company will never again take so long to develop a new Windows version as it did to produce Windows Vista. Microsoft has reorganized the Windows division in an attempt to avoid delays.

The slides, obtained by the Seattle P-I, don't detail any of the specific features planned for the next Windows version. However, one slide notes that "Windows 7" will be a "full OS release."

That appears to debunk past theories that Microsoft would aim for something less than a full overhaul in the next version of the operating system.

"They do seem to be clarifying," the situation, said Michael Cherry, an analyst at independent research firm Directions on Microsoft. "We're starting to get at least some information."

The disclosure of the timeline comes two weeks after a Forrester Research report cited past product delays and "the lack of a detailed product road map" as two reasons some companies are wary of renewing their Microsoft Software Assurance contracts.

The service contracts, generally three years long, include rights to upgrade to new versions of Microsoft programs when they come out. But the past delays meant, in some cases, that new versions weren't available within the term of a contract.

In a statement Friday, Microsoft confirmed that it gave the information to its sales representatives so that they could give customers a clearer picture of the new Windows timeline.

The statement said the effort was part of "ongoing outreach to enterprise customers and partners ... including Software Assurance customers in particular." It confirmed that the company "is scoping Windows '7' development to a three-year timeframe."

However, the statement continued, "the specific release date will ultimately be determined by meeting the quality bar."

Although the product will be known by the "Windows 7" code name for now, Microsoft generally gives Windows versions different names before public release. Windows Vista was known by the internal name "Longhorn" during its development.
cf. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/324570_msftwindows21.html
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 08:46    Post subject:
ok so either microsoft wont meet that deadline (vista was delayed way way longer than planned wasnt it?), or it'll be a bug filled mess, OR, it'll just be vista with a face-lift, that probably runs worse than vista does (ie it'll be windows ME all over again Very Happy)


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 14:43    Post subject:
Rolling Eyes I'm not getting Windows Seven/Vienna/Whatever until SP1 comes out, and removes all the nonexistent bugs.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 15:17    Post subject:
the history likes to repeats it self

VISTA , VISTA NT , VISTA ME , VISTA XP
Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 15:45    Post subject:
Hooray for milking the cow MS......again!! Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 15:48    Post subject:
hafriski wrote:
VISTA , VISTA NT , VISTA ME , VISTA XP
Laughing

Vista 1.0
Vista 3.1
Vista 95 (2009?)
Vista 98 (2011? Razz)
Vista BlowMe
Vista NT
Vista XP

If Windows 7 comes out in 3 years, I am skipping Vista alltogether Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 16:17    Post subject:
why? in about 3 years, vista might be good by then Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 17:05    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
hafriski wrote:
VISTA , VISTA NT , VISTA ME , VISTA XP
Laughing

Vista 1.0
Vista 3.1
Vista 95 (2009?)
Vista 98 (2011? Razz)
Vista BlowMe
Vista NT
Vista XP

If Windows 7 comes out in 3 years, I am skipping Vista alltogether Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


And you probably won't be alone in doing that Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 19:56    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
hafriski wrote:
VISTA , VISTA NT , VISTA ME , VISTA XP
Laughing

Vista 1.0
Vista 3.1
Vista 95 (2009?)
Vista 98 (2011? Razz)
Vista BlowMe
Vista NT
Vista XP

If Windows 7 comes out in 3 years, I am skipping Vista alltogether Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


maybe we will finally move on and use

Doors X in 2010 Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 22:54    Post subject:
3 years is normal..

vista's and xp span was the biggest in m$ history..


yes
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 23:12    Post subject:
cnZ wrote:
3 years is normal..

vista's and xp span was the biggest in m$ history..
Yeah, the info here is that it will be a "full OS release".
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 23:24    Post subject:
Laughing And Longhorn was supposed to come in 2004.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Jul 2007 23:38    Post subject:
$en$i wrote:
cnZ wrote:
3 years is normal..

vista's and xp span was the biggest in m$ history..
Yeah, the info here is that it will be a "full OS release".


you mean the kernel?

well, xp is NT 5.1 (64bit NT 5.2), 2000 was NT 5.0 (so upgrade). Vista is NT 6.0 (upgrade), and "Vienna" will be NT 7.0.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Windows_versions#NT_Kernel-based

also they state that Orient will be NT 7.0 in 2014 Razz


yes
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2007 00:02    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Laughing And Longhorn was supposed to come in 2004.


Longhorn was the codename for Vista I thought


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2007 00:06    Post subject:
Long before that, when announced in 2002, it was supposed to be released in 2004.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2007 01:52    Post subject:
Vista (Longhorn) was known before XP was completed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Windows_Vista


yes
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2007 05:03    Post subject:
Installing Ubuntu in 3 days. I doubt I'll be able to install a new version of windows in 3 years.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jul 2007 10:36    Post subject:
cnZ wrote:
$en$i wrote:
cnZ wrote:
3 years is normal..

vista's and xp span was the biggest in m$ history..
Yeah, the info here is that it will be a "full OS release".


you mean the kernel?

well, xp is NT 5.1 (64bit NT 5.2), 2000 was NT 5.0 (so upgrade). Vista is NT 6.0 (upgrade), and "Vienna" will be NT 7.0.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Windows_versions#NT_Kernel-based

also they state that Orient will be NT 7.0 in 2014 Razz
By "full OS release" they mean a traditional -all included- OS and not one that would have heavily relied on web-based services, modular and updated incrementally like some people tried to predict. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Aug 2010 13:26    Post subject:
Th-th-th-threaaaaaaad necrooooooo!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Aug 2010 13:54    Post subject:
Most pointless thread in recent past.
MS usually had a three-year lifespan for their operating systems. Once in a while a macfag claims that Vista ONLY had a three year lifespan since it sucked so hard but the truth is that the five years of XP were an abnormality because of the radical redesign of Vista (multithreading, GPU-acceleration) and it's overambitious goals.

EDIT: I thought this was a thread about the Windows 7 successor Laughing
I'll keep my post unedited for the lulz.
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Aug 2010 13:56    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Aug 2010 14:05    Post subject:
Well, one could always make the argument that 7 is a "service pack" of Vista anyway, just like XP was for 2000. Smug
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Aug 2010 14:23    Post subject:
Well, I put this comment in a time when I had some dumb problems with the original Vista, some processes would get stuck and I wouldn't even be able to kill them. That problem was fixed in SP1. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Aug 2010 14:28    Post subject:
Aye, to me Win7 is basically WinV-SP3. People bleat on about how shitty Vista is and how awesome Win 7 is .... and when you remind them that Win7 *is* WinV in practically every way, they stutter and mumble some random bullshit Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Aug 2010 16:22    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Aug 2010 01:20    Post subject:
It seems a bunch of you could bite your tongue today-

Windows 7 is the first operating system I haven't had to re-install every 3 months. The first I can say that ever when it comes to Microsoft. Corporate businesses still aren't biting, majority still use XP spite the economy. Sad really XP is so out dated and no it is not more stable than 7 at all. 7 is better in every way possible.

I skipped Vista completely and 7 has made me happy so far.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Aug 2010 01:32    Post subject:
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It seems a bunch of you could bite your tongue today-


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I skipped Vista completely and 7 has made me happy so far.


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