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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th May 2007 19:52    Post subject: Machine For Friend - Need Opinions
Hey guys,

I'm building a machine for a friend of mine, he is a cheap fucker and doesn't want to spend more than £600. The current build is below, its at the £700 mark but I cant make seem to make any reductions that make sense.. Getting a worse GFX card provides such a drop in performance the extra £40 or so its going to cost to get the 8800 just seems worth it.

All the product codes are for http://www.scan.co.uk if you want to check out the website or the products, I want to grab everything from there if I can, just to make it easier.

LN15049 - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600, Socket 775, 2.4 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, Conroe Core, 4MB Cache, Retail - £139.81
LN15166 - 500W Tagan TG500-U25 Dual Engine SLi 80% Eff' Silent EPS12v 2.9 Support ALL Mobo's - £68.73
LN13080 - Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - P4 up to 4.4GHz - S775 Dual Core / Core2Duo Ready - £12.16
LN18482 - 400Gb Seagate ST3400633AS-RS, SATA300, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 9 ms, NCQ, Retail - £60.74
LN18577 - 2GB (2x1gb) Corsair Twinx XMS2, DDR2 PC-6400 (800) 240 Pinn, Non-ECC Unbuffered CAS 5-5-5-18 EPP DHX - £97.10
LN17569 - 320MB BFG Technology 8800GTS Overclocked, PCI-E, Mem 1600MHz, GPU 550MHz, 96 Streams, 2x DVI/HDTV - £189.40
LN15258 - Gigabyte GA 965P-S3 iP965, S775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX - £61.91
LN15324 - Enermax CA3030 Black Silver Midi Tower Case w/o PSU - £37.00

£ 683.. ish

I've also put together a slightly cheaper option, what do you guys think? How do the two machines compare?

LN15166 - 500W Tagan TG500-U25 Dual Engine SLi 80% Eff' Silent EPS12v 2.9 Support ALL Mobo's - £68.73
LN13080 - Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - P4 up to 4.4GHz - S775 Dual Core / Core2Duo Ready - £12.16
LN17569 - 320MB BFG Technology 8800GTS Overclocked, PCI-E, Mem 1600MHz, GPU 550MHz, 96 Streams, 2x DVI/HDTV - £189.40
LN15324 - Enermax CA3030 Black Silver Midi Tower Case w/o PSU - £37.00
LN17304 - Intel Core 2 Duo E4300, Socket 775, 1.80 GHz, 800MHz FSB, Allendale Core, 2MB Cache, Retail - £72.49
LN15259 - Gigabyte GA 945PL-S3, i945PL, S775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 400/533, SATA II, ATX - £39.47
LN7593 - 2Gb (2X1Gb) Corsair Value Select, DDR2 PC4300 (533), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12 - £58.08
LN17401 - 320 Gb Maxtor STM3320820AS DiamondMax 21, SATA300, 7200 rpm, 8MB Cache, 11 ms - £89.04

£583.22

How much will the lower CPU speed, less cache and slower ram affect the machine? Bare in mind the guy wants it mainly for gaming and doesn't want to upgrade (eg. No need to SLI and thus an uber PSU).
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th May 2007 21:08    Post subject:
I find that sometimes www.overclockers.co.uk is cheaper than scan...
Getting the E6300 and just overclocking the hell out of it is perfectly safe and a good way to save some money whilst keeping the performance.
Also consider the Scythe Mine,Ninja or Zalman CNPS9700 instead of that arctic cooling 'thing'
8800 GTS 320 is 171.54 at ocuk
2GB PC6400 is 86.94 at ocuk
400 gb SATA2 HD 58.74 at ocuk
all inc vat...
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upstart_69




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th May 2007 11:23    Post subject:
Even cheaper is the e4300, at half the price of the e6600. Nice lil chip to have until the quads come down in price. It can run circles around the e6600 when oc'd.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2903&p=6

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AwE




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th May 2007 11:43    Post subject:
I`d say go for the 4300, too.

It`s a great overclocker and with a little luck and a good mainboard and good ram (divider should be 1) you can almost reach the 3 Ghz with the boxed cooler and no voltage increase.

But sYn... don`t you work for intel? You should know this... (did they pay you money to post here?! Wink )


I`m am still using a 1700+ @ 2,2 Ghz and a 6800 GT AGP.

This week I will upgrade - I don`t need more power till crysis (last fps i played was far cry...) but I found a nice little board that supports ddr1 + ddr2 and agp + pcie...

http://www.pro-clockers.com/review.php?id=207 --> Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA Motherboard Review

~50 €
+
e4300 boxed ~100 €

=

150 € for a core duo system that will serve me well till crysis - I`ll sell my old board + chip on ebay and it will be even less than 150 € *drooling*

totally ot... sorry Rolling Eyes


well... go for the 4300 Smile
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[sYn]
[Moderator] Elitist



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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 16:57    Post subject:
lol, I don't work for Intel anymore Razz.. Meaning I don't get free shit to play with.. meaning I don't have a clue :cries:!

I ended up going for the 6600 by request, as the guy doesn't want to overclock (his pc, not my place to argue).. Plus I still live in the age when 2mb of extra cache on chip means the world Razz
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