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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Apr 2007 20:57    Post subject:
Damn, must have taken the german section of the forums when they posted the tools since I had the tool in english when I tried it, will fix that directly. Smile

EDIT: Downloaded it myself and it's in english, unsure what causes the german text then since it works fine for me.
(Unless you meant the google auto translated thread from the WoG forums)
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timmy01978




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2007 06:39    Post subject: Performance question
How will this game run on my PC?? Duo 2 6300, Ati X1950 Pro 256, 2 gigs of 633 memory, and a Intel 975X chipset Motherboard, Vista. Is it even worth playing with Vista and my system or is it too buggy for Vista?
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2007 06:44    Post subject:
http://forum.jowood.de/showthread.php?t=141191

Helps with memory related errors in Vista and XP due to the 2GB ram limit in 32bit applications.
(Increases the amount to whatever the max is in 64bit apllications wich can help even if you don't have much ram since the pagefile will take over instead when that happens)

Aside from that there are probably other Vista related tech info on that forum page worth checking. Smile

EDIT: Game should run fine with those specs assuming drivers and similar are up to date and the system working like it should.
(For instance, Catalyst 6.4 were recently released with quite a few Vista improvements)

EDIT2: Program that changes the EXE file to the new <2GB header works on any application wich may be usefull with other memory intensive programs. Smile
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2007 03:46    Post subject: Re: Performance question
timmy01978 wrote:
How will this game run on my PC?? Duo 2 6300, Ati X1950 Pro 256, 2 gigs of 633 memory, and a Intel 975X chipset Motherboard, Vista. Is it even worth playing with Vista and my system or is it too buggy for Vista?


It'll still lag at certain points, it happens no matter what system you have, but it's worth putting up with. I've just started getting into the game again, it's great my character looks like Gandalf!

I've heard vista can complicate things though.

"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

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Smurf_mE




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Apr 2007 14:47    Post subject:
PrideLess wrote:
Nah, performance on my system witch is not the state of the art (7900 gs, 1Gb ram, 3.0 petium) is quite ok. Well there are some lags in the big citys with a lot of npc, but overall it is good( in two months of playing i have 3 - 4 crashes). And you will have good fps boost if you turn the shadows off...
It takes few ini tweakings and it is quite playable. If you have similar system, you could try with my ini tweak .

Ini tweak
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I have finshed the game with all three endings and i have to say it was very enjoyable.... and yes you can call me G3 fanboy, cant help my self.
I been looking around for similar game could anyone recomend me one ?


have u played G1 and G2+exp ?! if not start to DL
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Naluh




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 11:16    Post subject:
Tried this game last night, on my rig (AMD 64 3200 + @ 2100mhz, 1 GB ram, X800pro 256 mb) it runs like shit, and as a bonus it even looks like shit cause I have to turn down the detail. Not surprisingly, even turning down the detail does little for performance. Damn, I loved Gothic 1 but this piece of shit?
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PrideLess




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 11:34    Post subject:
There is my ini tweak just a post above yours. I ve got pretty similar system to yours, except for graphic card ( GF 7900 GT). Runs ok ( not great ).
Defrag your comp, close all aplications witch eats your ram ( antivirus, DT, ..........)
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Naluh




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 13:22    Post subject:
PrideLess wrote:
There is my ini tweak just a post above yours. I ve got pretty similar system to yours, except for graphic card ( GF 7900 GT). Runs ok ( not great ).
Defrag your comp, close all aplications witch eats your ram ( antivirus, DT, ..........)
I might give it a try but not getting my hopes up Razz .
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 13:27    Post subject:
@ Naluh

You have of course patched it to latest version I suppose, right ?
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pumbertot.1




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 15:10    Post subject:
Naluh wrote:
Tried this game last night, on my rig (AMD 64 3200 + @ 2100mhz, 1 GB ram, X800pro 256 mb) it runs like shit, and as a bonus it even looks like shit cause I have to turn down the detail. Not surprisingly, even turning down the detail does little for performance. Damn, I loved Gothic 1 but this piece of shit?


maybe because your rig is shit?
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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 15:50    Post subject:
pumbertot.1 wrote:
Naluh wrote:
Tried this game last night, on my rig (AMD 64 3200 + @ 2100mhz, 1 GB ram, X800pro 256 mb) it runs like shit, and as a bonus it even looks like shit cause I have to turn down the detail. Not surprisingly, even turning down the detail does little for performance. Damn, I loved Gothic 1 but this piece of shit?


maybe because your rig is shit?


Gothic3 _is_ shit though. The combat is comical at best while Gothic1-2 has the best combat ever (in RPG's).

Tried this piece of shit game again after the latest patch to see if anything had changed, it was still totaly unplayable (gameplay-wise, performance was ok). Fuck them for destroying such a fine serie and even saying "we listened to the Gothic Community". They only wanted to make it more accessible for Diablo fans and other dumbfucks (who cant be arsed to play games with deeper and more involving combat than click-click-click) while still hoping to sell quite a few copies to fans of the series. They succseeded with that perhaps but 90% of their (previous) fans wont buy a game ever again from these fucktards.
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CrossWire




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 16:21    Post subject:
Yerr, fwiggin basquard poo face's with ugly dogs as pets, squid dic dribble bottom wipes. I hope there next Gothic has loads more bugs than this one.
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Naluh




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 16:33    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
@ Naluh

You have of course patched it to latest version I suppose, right ?
Yup, right after installing the game. What I'm reading in this thread is that the patch doesn't even make much difference... Mad
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Naluh




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 16:36    Post subject:
pumbertot.1 wrote:
Naluh wrote:
Tried this game last night, on my rig (AMD 64 3200 + @ 2100mhz, 1 GB ram, X800pro 256 mb) it runs like shit, and as a bonus it even looks like shit cause I have to turn down the detail. Not surprisingly, even turning down the detail does little for performance. Damn, I loved Gothic 1 but this piece of shit?


maybe because your rig is shit?
It's not the fastest thing around anymore, I know. But I can play Oblivion on it and that looks about 10 times better than this piece of crap. Furthermore, if your head wasn't full of shit you'd know by reading the thread even high-end systems have performance problems with this game, so there! Razz
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anti-flag




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 17:15    Post subject:
oblivion looks better than gothic 3?
pffffffff
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Parallax_
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 17:18    Post subject:
It does. Get new glasses.

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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 17:37    Post subject:
Well i'm enjoying it so fuck you all!

"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

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k-limero




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 19:10    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
They only wanted to make it more accessible for Diablo fans and other dumbfucks (who cant be arsed to play games with deeper and more involving combat than click-click-click)


Amen

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Dunge




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 20:08    Post subject:
Sorry if I'm not too well informed but are there been a lot of patch fixing this game? I loved G2+exp and waited like a fanboy for G3. I started the game and pretty much liked it until one point I abandoned because my savegame was fubbar (I had to kill a whole village alone or else they kept following me everywhere). Like everyone I wasn't happy orcs are easier to kill than sheep and that combat was a bit buggy. Is the game more enjoyable now? Should I re-try a new game?
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BearishSun




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 20:27    Post subject:
I'm actually waiting for another patch and then I'll start new game. I started playing with retail version, and alot of things patches fix don't get fixed unless you start new game. I didn't feel like starting over then, but if they release new patch before the summer I'll play. Still haven't finished the game so...
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Palegod




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 20:57    Post subject:
Last I heard they were still trying to figure out how to distribute the next patch, since they estimated it would be around 1GB in size. Why they can't do a diff patch like every other software developer does when it's necessary to make changes to so many files is a bit of a mystery to me, but that's what Piranha Bytes has said.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 22:02    Post subject:
Palegod wrote:
Last I heard they were still trying to figure out how to distribute the next patch, since they estimated it would be around 1GB in size.


They never heard of .torrents? It's just a lame excuse, i doubt we'll ever see a 1 GB patch, hell i bet that's almost as much work as making a half game! No way they're gonna pull that off. What we can hope for is that they incoperate a decent fix into an add-on for the game. An addon with a big patch could possible save this POS.
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BearishSun




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Apr 2007 22:06    Post subject:
1GB isn't all new data, it's probably standard patch size, only for some reason they can't change or update the world file, but they have to upload it whole. And they're not working on a way to distribute it, they said because patch is so large, they want it to be the last one so it's gonna be a while. Read my post page or two back
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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Apr 2007 00:27    Post subject:
BearishSun wrote:
I'm actually waiting for another patch and then I'll start new game. I started playing with retail version, and alot of things patches fix don't get fixed unless you start new game. I didn't feel like starting over then, but if they release new patch before the summer I'll play. Still haven't finished the game so...


Same here man, same here. Hopefully that huge patch will be out some time soon..
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Naluh




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Apr 2007 18:16    Post subject:
BearishSun wrote:
I'm actually waiting for another patch and then I'll start new game. I started playing with retail version, and alot of things patches fix don't get fixed unless you start new game. I didn't feel like starting over then, but if they release new patch before the summer I'll play. Still haven't finished the game so...
I'm letting this one rest until a good patch comes out too, or maybe when I decide to upgrade my rig, which should be somewhere between 3-6 months from now.
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Herman Toothrot




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 09:20    Post subject:
anyone knows if cracks works on gothic patched with community patch which fixes quest bugs and stuff? some new version 1.3.1 went out and i would like to give it a shot... why they wont make some normal patch and make this game useful Crying or Very sad

AMD 64 3800+ ~2.7Ghz, 2GB Ram, GF 7800gs + bliss 512 RAM...
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 09:40    Post subject:
The community patch only changes the Pak files so far and since there is no changes to the EXE file you can still use the latest 1.12 crack.

Ofcourse seeing as JW has more or less hired or contracted the team who make the community patch this might change later on as they work further with the games source code.
(Should be a few threads about this on the main JoWood forums about Gothic III, gameplay and community patch section in the english forums.)
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Herman Toothrot




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 13:35    Post subject:
ahh okay Smile guess i will give it a try then. shame that they wont fix performance but i guess thats better than nothing Smile

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pumbertot.1




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 14:33    Post subject:
dredziol wrote:
ahh okay Smile guess i will give it a try then. shame that they wont fix performance but i guess thats better than nothing Smile


nothing wrong with performance, you just have shite rig.
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Herman Toothrot




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jun 2007 15:42    Post subject:
pumbertot.1 wrote:
dredziol wrote:
ahh okay Smile guess i will give it a try then. shame that they wont fix performance but i guess thats better than nothing Smile


nothing wrong with performance, you just have shite rig.


riiiight Embarassed guess ill go back playing dyna blaster since its the latest game that works fine on my win95.... Laughing :irony: Very Happy
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