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niggahlovah




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:17    Post subject:
ginge51 wrote:
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fucking stupid topic to begin with though.. how the fuck are we supposed to know about Al Qaeda? it's not like they share their fucking plans with us.


well i was just asking peoples opinions on this.
i made the exact same thread on another fiorum and theres over 30 CIVILIZED responces on it says everything really Sad


Go to the world news section like I said earlier, what do you expect down here?
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:18    Post subject:
niggahlovah wrote:
come on ginge I stayed on topic for you and you didn't repsonse at all?

I know we have been bashing in other threads but keep it real man, I thought you actually had an opinion and some thoughts on the subject instead you're fobbing things off just like Leo when I was giving him some serious response


show me this SERIOUS responce youve ALEDGEDLY given me???
i gave my opinion at the start of the thread why do i need to give more i was after every1 elses responce not mine thats why i made the thread to start with Surprised
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:18    Post subject:
Dazz99 wrote:
fucking stupid topic to begin with though.. how the fuck are we supposed to know about Al Qaeda? it's not like they share their fucking plans with us.


Actually its one of the few attempts at a proper discussion, problem was it was posted in the void lol. lesson learned ginge
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:20    Post subject:
niggahlovah wrote:
ginge51 wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
fucking stupid topic to begin with though.. how the fuck are we supposed to know about Al Qaeda? it's not like they share their fucking plans with us.


well i was just asking peoples opinions on this.
i made the exact same thread on another fiorum and theres over 30 CIVILIZED responces on it says everything really Sad


Go to the world news section like I said earlier, what do you expect down here?

it was in the genral area as i put it there cause i made the thread myself so didnt think it was right to put in the news section.but the mods moved it here because every1 started flaming.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:21    Post subject:
GestaltO wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
fucking stupid topic to begin with though.. how the fuck are we supposed to know about Al Qaeda? it's not like they share their fucking plans with us.


Actually its one of the few attempts at a proper discussion, problem was it was posted in the void lol. lesson learned ginge

i didnt post it in the viod m8 it was in genral chat at 1st till people started flaming the thread then it got moved to the viod.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:21    Post subject:
ah that explains it lol
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niggahlovah




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:22    Post subject: Re: Al-Qaeda
niggahlovah wrote:
ginge51 wrote:
just been reading a few forums about Al-Qaeda and was wondering whats happened to them?
there was a time a year or 2 ago that they were stricking all over the world every couple of weeks but for the last year or 2 nothing has happened no attacks nothing Smile
just wondering what every1 else thinks has happened to them.

are the no more as a force?
will they unleash a major attack on some city shortly?

what do you think?

i think there gearing up for a major attack on some country in the near future Sad

i reckon osama bin laden is dead he has nt made a message in years now Smile
possibly the end for Al-Qaeda i hope so Smile


haha, ok i'll attempt to bite and answer your question seriously

firstly, stop reading forums and media reports about terror groups; the majority of the shit in the western press is bullshit about it but you can choose to believe what you want this is just the view of me and my contemparies.

Can you please state when they were attacking every few weeks and where? There must be a gap in my knowlege, islamic miliant groups like to use the ideas of symbolism when staging attacks in the west, for example the side of a US boat they blew up in the late 1990's and the attack on 9/11 was a focus on the world economy. It has nothing to do with frequency and more to do with the message it delivers

Now comes to the point where you contradict yourself; you think theres a major attack coming but you also think the group is dead? Can you clear this up please.

Al-Qaeda is far from dead and dormant, if you think that because a few of its top brass have been killed thats its over your very naive. Groups such as this train people 3 teirs down to replace their superiors (remember they were trained by the CIA and funded) so i'd say that they still remain a threat but you can feel at ease because of this "war on terror"

You should start paying attention to Iran's actions and various other groups accross the middle east instead of reading and istening to bullshit media hype

Anyway, thats enough serious debate for today, take this to the World News section if you wish to gain a more serious response


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Whats that?

The idea of asking a question using means you want to discuss

why are you so hostile?
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:24    Post subject: Re: Al-Qaeda
niggahlovah wrote:
niggahlovah wrote:
ginge51 wrote:
just been reading a few forums about Al-Qaeda and was wondering whats happened to them?
there was a time a year or 2 ago that they were stricking all over the world every couple of weeks but for the last year or 2 nothing has happened no attacks nothing Smile
just wondering what every1 else thinks has happened to them.

are the no more as a force?
will they unleash a major attack on some city shortly?

what do you think?

i think there gearing up for a major attack on some country in the near future Sad

i reckon osama bin laden is dead he has nt made a message in years now Smile
possibly the end for Al-Qaeda i hope so Smile


haha, ok i'll attempt to bite and answer your question seriously

firstly, stop reading forums and media reports about terror groups; the majority of the shit in the western press is bullshit about it but you can choose to believe what you want this is just the view of me and my contemparies.

Can you please state when they were attacking every few weeks and where? There must be a gap in my knowlege, islamic miliant groups like to use the ideas of symbolism when staging attacks in the west, for example the side of a US boat they blew up in the late 1990's and the attack on 9/11 was a focus on the world economy. It has nothing to do with frequency and more to do with the message it delivers

Now comes to the point where you contradict yourself; you think theres a major attack coming but you also think the group is dead? Can you clear this up please.

Al-Qaeda is far from dead and dormant, if you think that because a few of its top brass have been killed thats its over your very naive. Groups such as this train people 3 teirs down to replace their superiors (remember they were trained by the CIA and funded) so i'd say that they still remain a threat but you can feel at ease because of this "war on terror"

You should start paying attention to Iran's actions and various other groups accross the middle east instead of reading and istening to bullshit media hype

Anyway, thats enough serious debate for today, take this to the World News section if you wish to gain a more serious response


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Whats that?

The idea of asking a question using means you want to discuss

why are you so hostile?


lol hostile wtf i aint hostile about nothing.
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niggahlovah




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:26    Post subject:
OK, lets say your not being hostile.

Don't you want to discuss what your actual topic was?
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:32    Post subject:
niggahlovah wrote:
OK, lets say your not being hostile.

Don't you want to discuss what your actual topic was?

well did you not understand my original post?
just peoples opinions on al queda.
what will happen next etc....
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theres hardly no point now as the thread has been officially trashed.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:36    Post subject:
could get it back on track if u tried. or if people post properly
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:37    Post subject:
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could get it back on track if u tried. or if people post properly


hardly worth it now.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:39    Post subject:
lol ok. well i was gonna post serious comments but nvm
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:40    Post subject:
GestaltO wrote:
lol ok. well i was gonna post serious comments but nvm


fuck that ginge gump, please post your commnents i'd like to see someone post something with brainpower

lets us two save this thread ?
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:43    Post subject:
niggahlovah wrote:
GestaltO wrote:
lol ok. well i was gonna post serious comments but nvm


fuck that ginge gump, please post your commnents i'd like to see someone post something with brainpower

lets us two save this thread ?


what you even talking to me for
just fuckoff somewhere
if i wanted to get the thread back on track i would but i dont as i got all the answers i needed elsewhere.
ginge gump oh deary me .
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:45    Post subject:
I was replying to gesta, you see how I quoted him?
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:46    Post subject:
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I was replying to gesta, you see how I quoted him?


lol
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:47    Post subject:
what you even talking to me for
just fuckoff somewhere
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:48    Post subject:
what you even talking to me for
just fuckoff somewhere
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:48    Post subject:
what you even talking to me for
just fuckoff somewhere
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:48    Post subject:
what you even talking to me for
just fuckoff somewhere
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:52    Post subject:
niggahlovah wrote:
GestaltO wrote:
lol ok. well i was gonna post serious comments but nvm


fuck that ginge gump, please post your commnents i'd like to see someone post something with brainpower

lets us two save this thread ?


OK well bare in mind my knowledge of Al-Qaeda is fairly limited. i agree with your earlier comments about western texts being basically bullshit and the terrorist attacks being more to make a point.

I personally don't belive that they are dead and yeah they wern't popping up every few weeks ginge, its just at the time of incidents like 9/11 the media focused on terrorism a hell of a lot more and everyone seemed to want to belive it was Al-Qaeda doing the attacks and suicide bombings etc, when in fact it was probably just Al-Qaeda wannabes.

Realistically imo they aint gonna die any time soon Al-Qaeda are labelled as a terrorist group due to the way they go about things and because there reason for doing the things they do is mainly focused around religion, their religion aint gonna go away so therefore they will not. other groups labelled as terrorist groups i think are mislabbeled its just that they are too small to have an "official" government or be goverened by their own internal laws. note that i do not belive this of Al-Qaeda before anyone decides to start diving on my comments and attacking me.

On a seperate note the label "terrorist group" is used far to lightly. Bush and Blair say the "war on terrorism" frequently, i'm no fan of the actual terrorists but what is us and america INVADING a whole country (iraq) and lining up to invade another
(iran) if its not terrorism under the guise of an official government?!
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:53    Post subject:
niggahlovah wrote:
what you even talking to me for
just fuckoff somewhere


only if you would it would be alot more peaceful for every1
while youre at it try tieing a knot from a tie around your neck and attacvh it to the ceiling and kill yourself
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:53    Post subject:
gionge i'm not one to argue but did you just showed hostility toward me for no apparant reason when i was trying to help get things back on track?
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:54    Post subject:
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gionge i'm not one to argue but did you just showed hostility toward me for no apparant reason when i was trying to help get things back on track?


wtf ?
please show me what youve seen i havent the foggiest what youre on about m8?
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 23:56    Post subject:
no worries obviously i got confused and you were not talking to me. apologies dude.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 00:03    Post subject:
GestaltO wrote:
niggahlovah wrote:
GestaltO wrote:
lol ok. well i was gonna post serious comments but nvm


fuck that ginge gump, please post your commnents i'd like to see someone post something with brainpower

lets us two save this thread ?


OK well bare in mind my knowledge of Al-Qaeda is fairly limited. i agree with your earlier comments about western texts being basically bullshit and the terrorist attacks being more to make a point.

I personally don't belive that they are dead and yeah they wern't popping up every few weeks ginge, its just at the time of incidents like 9/11 the media focused on terrorism a hell of a lot more and everyone seemed to want to belive it was Al-Qaeda doing the attacks and suicide bombings etc, when in fact it was probably just Al-Qaeda wannabes.

Realistically imo they aint gonna die any time soon Al-Qaeda are labelled as a terrorist group due to the way they go about things and because there reason for doing the things they do is mainly focused around religion, their religion aint gonna go away so therefore they will not. other groups labelled as terrorist groups i think are mislabbeled its just that they are too small to have an "official" government or be goverened by their own internal laws. note that i do not belive this of Al-Qaeda before anyone decides to start diving on my comments and attacking me.

On a seperate note the label "terrorist group" is used far to lightly. Bush and Blair say the "war on terrorism" frequently, i'm no fan of the actual terrorists but what is us and america INVADING a whole country (iraq) and lining up to invade another
(iran) if its not terrorism under the guise of an official government?!


man, thats the best thing i've heard someone on here so for a while, what you say is really on point.

Wars on Nouns are the lamest thing ever, plus it serves an agenda for us to have a war on terror, we can invade numerious countries to do as we please look at afghanistan, iraq and soon to come iran.
Israel does the same thing (no so bad as we do) but look at there war last summer we lebanon, just jokes.

Agree entirely on your last point, us invading other conuntries is terrorism and anyone who thinks the US and UK don't sponsor terrorism are just tools. Take a little read into John Negroponte (spell?) that guy is a terror fuckery expert.

Anyway i'm all tired out from winding up ginge im going to read my book Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 00:04    Post subject:
ginge51 wrote:
niggahlovah wrote:
what you even talking to me for
just fuckoff somewhere


only if you would it would be alot more peaceful for every1
while youre at it try tieing a knot from a tie around your neck and attacvh it to the ceiling and kill yourself


Wind me up buttercup dooo la dooo la
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 00:07    Post subject:
Cheers. i like to have serious discussions as well as the laughs Wink i'll research that john fellow tomorrow in work after lunch (got a meeting with siemens in the morning so cant do it then Sad ) Enjoy your book, im gonna go watch a flick with the missus now i think.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 00:09    Post subject:
300 as class film went too see that last night
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