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poullou
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Leftos
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Look at all of them! AMD's getting a good asskicking. It's about time they stopped the anti-Intel marketing campaign and worked on their processors. Last time I remember AMD being the best is while we were still at single-core.
P.S. Before a war begins, I'm not a fanboy. My allowance-built rig still has an AMD Athlon 64 3700+.
[ i5 2500K (@4.2GHz) / GIGABYTE Z77MX-D3H / 8GB Corsair XMS / GIGABYTE GTX460 1GB OC / 640+750 GB WD Caviar Black ]
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Surray
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I've been using AMD CPUs for years, ever since the Amd Athlon 1ghz, they were great for a long time but intel sure as hell has the upper hand now and the next upgrade from my current CPU (Athlon 64 3000+ overlocked) will most definitely be a a Core 2 Duo.
Just a pity that I'll need to get new ram because of DDR2 and a new motherboard as well.
For now I'll stick to my Athlon 64 though, Dual Core is still kinda useless and quad core is probably really far from getting utilized properly in games and applications.
Still, with all these multicore developements I wonder why we need Physics Accelerators?
Anyone who is willing to buy a physics card probably has a multi core system as well, would be a better idea to just start utilizing one of the CPU cores for AI and/or physics calculations only.
Anyway, I tried this Cellfactor beta thingy and it's kinda fun and run's pretty good without any PhysX crap, just sometimes it slows down to a crawl for no apparent reason when I run into a specific area of the map, if I run back again it runs fine, pretty weird.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 10:44 Post subject: |
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I think i remember these convos when video accelarators first came out. ppl asked why would you need it, when the cpu can just handle it all. I imagine in a couple years that physics calculations will be complicated enough that phys card would be useful. I think the price for one is just too high right now tho.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 10:56 Post subject: |
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 Graphics accelerators showed the difference right away... I mean, I remember I played Q2 on software mode, then putting a Voodoo Rush card in my PC, an DAMN, it was such a difference. PPU cards ftl, especially with GPU computing on its way. |
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Parallax_
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Physics cards will never be useful. I think it's very irrelevant comparing them to the way GPUs revolutioned the graphics market.
As Leo said:
1) Physics rendering on GPUs
2) Physics rendering on Multicore CPUs
No need for overpriced shit cards like PhysX, ever.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 17:51 Post subject: |
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This demo is stale as fuck.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 18:25 Post subject: |
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| KrAzY-KaMeL wrote: | | This demo is stale as fuck. |
Is it something unusual for you?
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 20:32 Post subject: |
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Leftos
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 20:49 Post subject: |
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Already mentioned one or two pages back.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Apr 2007 21:26 Post subject: |
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can u run this demo on :
AMD 64 X@ dual 4000+
2 GB RAM and
GF7600gt 256 mb
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poullou
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X_Dror
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Karmeck
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poullou
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You are right Karmeck. There is a name for this kind of programming but I can't remember it.
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Leftos
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Parallax_
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poullou
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More cores ftw!
Question: are there two sides one supporting physics on cores and one on physx cards? And maybe another on gpu(8800 has something to support physics calculations)?
I choose cores and maybe gpu in some cases.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007 13:18 Post subject: |
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| poullou wrote: | More cores ftw!
Question: are there two sides one supporting physics on cores and one on physx cards? And maybe another on gpu(8800 has something to support physics calculations)?
I choose cores and maybe gpu in some cases. |
This fantastic video that Parallax posted you can see the Nvidia sign in some tests so , looks like they use Dx10 with the new 8800 . |
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