S.T.A.L.K.E.R stole designs from Half Life 2 and Doom!!!!!!!
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Pfiemelcheese




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 19:16    Post subject: S.T.A.L.K.E.R stole designs from Half Life 2 and Doom!!!!!!!
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/46449

:LOL: Now you see you can only trust a Ukranian software develepor as far as you can throw him:ROFL:

!! POST EDITED TO REFLECT UKRANIAN DEVELOPERS ONLY, SORRY FOR THE GENERELIZATION, NOT ALL UKRANIANS ARE BAD !!


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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 19:20    Post subject:
It's an April's Fool's joke and you went straight for it.


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Teramos




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 19:28    Post subject: Re: S.T.A.L.K.E.R stole designs from Half Life 2 and Doom!!!
Pfiemelcheese wrote:
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/46449

:LOL: Now you see you can only trust a russian as far as you can throw him:ROFL:



lol... if that turns out to be true than gcs is looking into some serious lawsuits Wink

in the thread on mapcore you find out that they even uses battlefield 2´s fire animation.. only change is that it starts on another frame within the animationfile Razz
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Teramos




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 19:29    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
It's an April's Fool's joke and you went straight for it.


apperantly its no joke, dont let you fool that its posted on april 1st. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 20:18    Post subject:
The files compared do exist and they look very similar to the comparison shots after checking the unpacked texture files and viewing the ones that were compared.

I don't really see much of a problem and i'm sure they'll just release a patch or similar to fix it unless ID and Valve choose to be more aggressive about it.
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Pfiemelcheese




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 20:39    Post subject:
It surely is no april fools joke, cuz the person pulling such a joke would be the target of a very very serious lawsuit, sites advocating this would be a target for some hefty fines as well. So I am presuming this defenitely is no april fools joke. Reason I also think that this story is very well true is when you compare the sewers in Stalker to the outdoor environment, when I first went into the sewers the textures were simply gorgeous and it did remind me of that greenish glow and stuff I saw in Half Life, many pipes etc do look very similar. Outdoor and indoor are 2 diff games to me, outdoor is jucky while indoor looks sweet.


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swebarb




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 20:42    Post subject:
Looks like complete fucking ripoff.. haha i would not be suprised if they indeed just stole some art..
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 20:56    Post subject:
mabye this is how they finally got the game out Laughing


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Freakness
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 21:22    Post subject:
They cant make shit and now this lol. gsc gtfo. But the textures are indeed stolen.
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 22:46    Post subject:
silly russians.
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 23:00    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
They cant make shit and now this lol. gsc gtfo. But the textures are indeed stolen.


How do you know?
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 23:27    Post subject:
Why don't you all go fuck yourself a bit with the 'russian' remarks? The fucking ukrainians stole some files and you blame it all on russia? How smart.


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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 23:30    Post subject:
Clevesa wrote:
Freakness wrote:
They cant make shit and now this lol. gsc gtfo. But the textures are indeed stolen.


How do you know?

duuh?
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Willy_Wanker
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 23:52    Post subject:
Russians or Ukranians, its all the same, I once went on vacation there(city called Saratov and its surrounding area). I had a rental car, I stopped for gass for like 2 minutes, went inside to buy a pack of cigarettes before I started filling her up and I lost all 4 hubcaps to my rental car, thats what I call some skilled robbers, they should hire these guys for the F1 pitcrew, they can dismantle and steal shit faster than superman:ROFL: And now this.
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Apr 2007 23:56    Post subject:
Willy_Wanker wrote:
Russians or Ukranians, its all the same, I once went on vacation there(city called Saratov and its surrounding area). I had a rental car, I stopped for gass for like 2 minutes, went inside to buy a pack of cigarettes before I started filling her up and I lost all 4 hubcaps to my rental car, thats what I call some skilled robbers, they should hire these guys for the F1 pitcrew, they can dismantle and steal shit faster than superman:ROFL: And now this.


Dude... picking Saratov as a spot for you vacation - that's heavy. I just don't know what to say, really.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 00:10    Post subject:
It is not all the same, there is a tension between Ukraine and Russia since the fall of USSR, we dont get along too well. So yeah i wouldnt say its the same. And if you wanna blame someone, blame the fuckin company, why bring in their nationality.


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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 00:30    Post subject:
why blame a company when people can just blame it on their nationality Rolling Eyes The game was release and no one gave a shit or anything about the textures. now that someone discovered this it's OMG STOLEN TEXTURES THIS GAME SUCKS!!! Seriously, get over it. Their just textures. Woulda taken them another year to get this game out if they made their own which woulda had the chance of sucking hardcore.

So my proposal to you all, stop whining get over it and stop being so damned racist or I'll have redbull send a scud missile to your front doors.


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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 00:36    Post subject:
stop the bullshit. the game release doesn't depend on a couple of textures. anyone who's in game development will tell you that it takes a dozen minutes to make that water texture.
very often people use some already made stuff for the so called 'research' or experimentation phase when working on those water shaders etc. so maybe later they just forgot to replace the dummy taken from HL2 with they own texture.


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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 00:52    Post subject:
Saying what they [allegedly] did is no big deal is just as retarded as bringing their nationality into it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 00:57    Post subject:
Russian devs always get the shit here. I understand they dont make the best games, but on every topic with Russian games, some asshole has to comment about their nationality or nation as a whole. I hated Gothic for its bugs, but not once i thought i should blame German nation, or just talking shit about Germans, only the devs should be blamed.


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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 01:20    Post subject:
Vodka-Redbull wrote:
stop the bullshit. the game release doesn't depend on a couple of textures. anyone who's in game development will tell you that it takes a dozen minutes to make that water texture.
very often people use some already made stuff for the so called 'research' or experimentation phase when working on those water shaders etc. so maybe later they just forgot to replace the dummy taken from HL2 with they own texture.


Or maybe they forgot to re-name all the stolen files to cover up their theft.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 01:45    Post subject:
accountbroken wrote:
Vodka-Redbull wrote:
stop the bullshit. the game release doesn't depend on a couple of textures. anyone who's in game development will tell you that it takes a dozen minutes to make that water texture.
very often people use some already made stuff for the so called 'research' or experimentation phase when working on those water shaders etc. so maybe later they just forgot to replace the dummy taken from HL2 with they own texture.


Or maybe they forgot to re-name all the stolen files to cover up their theft.


theft of what? . a couple of images among thousands of self-made textures?

don't you just get it that a game this size has hundreds of folders (unpacked), several thousand files. those D3 and HL2 textures could've been used a couple of years ago for testing reasons and haven't been deleted afterwards. they are not even 'active' in the game, probably.

but once again before calling anyone thieves think of this:
a dozen easy to make textures VS thousands of other unique ones.
theft? r you sure?
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 01:48    Post subject:
couldnt there just be some some type of shared texture library ? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 01:51    Post subject:
Yes, it's still theft.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 01:55    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
Yes, it's still theft.

only if they're used in the game and not just lying there in that folder.

the most important thing is to acknowledge that people have made a fucking ton of unique game content and calling them thieves because of a couple of displacement maps that even I can make in two photoshop clicks is just stupid.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 02:28    Post subject:
And if they would include the entire dvd movie in archives only would you still say its not so bad? I hope they will be punished for this, cos they made a shitty game.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 02:37    Post subject:
its quite possible that the textures arent even used in the game. they could be remnants from testing... they could just be tmp textures that level designers were using while the art department made replacements... as long as they arent actually used in the game (so far i havent seen anyone prove that they are) i cant see it as a massive issue... the game was rushed, so its quite likely lots of crap that isnt in the game is still in there... i mean MANY games have temp textures and models left behind in the game, its a pretty common thing. but i think the reason people are jumping on this is because most of the people up in that part are really untrustworthy, so its quite likely that they were stolen for use in the game... im just saying it might not be the case. probably is though... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 03:23    Post subject:
Haha, funny that people on this kind of "illegal wares forum" gets rattled when they hear of some software beeing stolen from a company by another company Smile

Then again, laws, morality and restrictions seems to be taken a little more lightly in most of the "eastern" nations... Can't blame em though with the state of things in their country...

But then again, since this forum continues to prove this "prejudice" wrong with its strong evidence of the opposite I guess I (yeah me, the racist) am wrong Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 03:49    Post subject:
I do hope for GSC that the textures are not stolen since that could be a major setback for them. I think S.T.A.L.K.E.R is a good game with great potential. With all the mods in the works its already a better game. When the SDK gets released we will probably see major changes in the game. Also remember that now when the game is released, has sold so well we will hopefully see some fully fledged patches which will expand game-areas, make some code better and several other changes.

With the SDK available we will probably see some vehicle mods in the end too. Maybe someone will even create a co-op mod. All this could be ruined if this was found to be true (also very depending on how Valve and ID Software reacts of course).



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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Apr 2007 03:56    Post subject:
I dont know about the vehicles anymore. I mean originally i thought its gonna be like oblivion where you got the whole map without loadings. But now that its broken up into smaller peices, it would be like driving for 5 seconds...loading..driving for 5 seconds..loading, it'd be just annoying. IT takes about 20 seconds of running to cross one map. Unless ofcourse vehicles will be equiped with lazer guns, or at least gatling gun.


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