Grand Theft Auto IV
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007 18:00    Post subject:
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UE3 should be able to serve better graphics with larger cities due to its streaming technology...


Yeah but not at the same frame rates. If you have a city with GOW's detail it would have to be devoid of life for it to run acceptably. I'm sure GTA4's cities will be packed.

From what I've seen from the trailer, GTA4 doesn't come close to GOW's details either. I never said it has to be at the same level of details, just better than what was shown in the trailer.


I'm sure rockstar know what they're doing. If it was so easy to create a large living world with details in excess of what has been seen of GTA4 while still having acceptable framerates it would have been done already. Crysis is beautiful, but the game is in a whole different context.

I mean, it looks superior to Saints Row by a fair margin, which is quite an achievement considering thats a very attractive game.

If they can maintain the detail seen in the videos, while also having minimal or zero pop in for cars and pedestrians i'll be very happy.


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007 18:06    Post subject:
The way it's looking right now; very similar to the Crysis "situation", I can't imagine a G80 running this thing maxed.


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007 18:15    Post subject:
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If they can maintain the detail seen in the videos, while also having minimal or zero pop in for cars and pedestrians i'll be very happy.

Well, that's the real problem with this sort of games... Oblivion, TDU, GTA, JC, Far Cry all had this amazingly ugly popins that were distracting from the beautiful-ness of the game, and I'm sure Crysis and GTA4 suffer as well... On consoles this is even more apparent due to the lower read-rate from the optical devices.
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007 18:18    Post subject:
didn't noticed any popups in FC
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007 18:49    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
If they can maintain the detail seen in the videos, while also having minimal or zero pop in for cars and pedestrians i'll be very happy.

Well, that's the real problem with this sort of games... Oblivion, TDU, GTA, JC, Far Cry all had this amazingly ugly popins that were distracting from the beautiful-ness of the game, and I'm sure Crysis and GTA4 suffer as well... On consoles this is even more apparent due to the lower read-rate from the optical devices.

Amazingly ugly? It's problematic and it's far from ideal but it doesn't detract from the games enjoyment or overall level of quality. I also think you're being harsh on the games in question - the popup is minimal at best in relation to what they try to achieve.


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007 19:38    Post subject:
Actually Now I think about it Just Cause has some of the most spectacular views i've seen in a game (360 version of course) and Crackdown had an excellent technique of making the city look alive even at extreme range.

I don't think the problem is any more apparent on consoles at all, at least not any more.


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007 23:13    Post subject:
Here we go again :

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New York officials: We don’t like GTA 4!

The problematic topic of Grand Theft Auto 4 hits the streets again. And now months before the official launch. The New York City officials are apparently annoyed by the way their city is portrayed in the next installment of the Grand Theft Auto game. Of course, the game is set in the fictional Liberty City, but it’s quite clear which real city it copies, as it contains landmarks such as the Statue of Liberty, Coney Island’s Cyclone, and the Brooklyn Bridge. The MetLife Building is renamed “GetaLife”. Vice City from GTA III’s follow-up was a nod to Miami, Florida, and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas was set on turf reminiscent of Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. The mayor does not support any video game where you earn points for injuring or killing police officers,” New York mayor Michael Bloomberg said in a statement. City council member Peter Vallone, chairman of the Council’s Public Safety Committee, noted that setting the game in the “safest city in America would be like setting Halo in Disneyland.” The mayor’s office also noted that since he took office car theft has halved and the murder rate is down by 28 per cent.



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Peter Vallone, chairman of the Council’s Public Safety Committee, noted that setting the game in the “safest city in America would be like setting Halo in Disneyland.”


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007 23:14    Post subject:
Stupid politicians don't know jack what they are talking about.


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007 23:16    Post subject:
It's only going to make GTA4 sell better!


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007 23:32    Post subject:
kalato wrote:
It's only going to make GTA4 sell better!


like all of them Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007 23:34    Post subject:
lol this is the THIRD time gta is set in liberty city and theyre still bitching? cmon now give it a rest. hey lets stop making movies where cops get killed in nyc or buildings blow up or there is crime there. oh wait THAT ALL REALLY HAPPENS ANYWAY. fucking idiot politicians


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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007 01:00    Post subject:
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Stupid politicians don't know jack what they are talking about.

Speaking of jack, Jack Thompson is now leading a campaign against GTA4 on PS3... *sigh* What a moron...
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007 01:02    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Parallax_ wrote:
Stupid politicians don't know jack what they are talking about.

Speaking of jack, Jack Thompson is now leading a campaign against GTA4 on PS3... *sigh* What a moron...


free publicity for both sides. There will probably be a jack thompson character in GTA 4 too.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007 01:05    Post subject:
I hope so... So I can shoot it with a shotgun!
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007 01:38    Post subject:
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I hope so... So I can shoot it with a shotgun!


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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007 08:14    Post subject:
" (...) would be like setting Halo in Disneyland."

Sounds interesting Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007 09:06    Post subject:
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" (...) would be like setting Halo in Disneyland."

Sounds interesting Very Happy


I hope there's shooting american kids involved...
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i hope there are going to be cats and dogs... and maybe some real sharks in the water... Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007 16:09    Post subject:
dominae wrote:
Adagio.81 wrote:
" (...) would be like setting Halo in Disneyland."

Sounds interesting Very Happy


I hope there's shooting american kids involved...



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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007 17:14    Post subject:
Adagio.81 wrote:
" (...) would be like setting Halo in Disneyland."

Sounds interesting Very Happy


Yea, but could you imagine waiting in line for five hours just to kill someone? Or paying 5.00 for every bullet?
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007 18:17    Post subject:
sexyjesus wrote:
Adagio.81 wrote:
" (...) would be like setting Halo in Disneyland."

Sounds interesting Very Happy


Yea, but could you imagine waiting in line for five hours just to kill someone? Or paying 5.00 for every bullet?

Oh man, you can't imagine how much I would pay to shoot some...
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Apr 2007 22:51    Post subject:
It will come out for pc but not right away when it comes out for PS3 and Xbox360!
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Apr 2007 22:55    Post subject:
9 month or so Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Apr 2007 04:26    Post subject:
Fuck yes a Russian - the only decent thing about eastern europe,
Hope this release will have kids and shit to mow down.
otherwise meh.


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Apr 2007 08:06    Post subject:
scanberg_ wrote:
Fuck yes a Russian - the only decent thing about eastern europe,
Hope this release will have kids and shit to mow down.
otherwise meh.


Doubt it....
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Apr 2007 08:35    Post subject:
RubberChicken wrote:
scanberg_ wrote:
Fuck yes a Russian - the only decent thing about eastern europe,
Hope this release will have kids and shit to mow down.
otherwise meh.


Doubt it....


Why the hell would people be interested in killing kids in a game?

WTF killing adults is not enough or something? You people have issues.

I remember people asking the same shit when Boiling Point came out. Same idiots saying can you kill kids? There were people even trying to find the config file that contained the actual command to disable the god mode that was enabled on the kids in that game. So they could not be killed at all no matter what.

This game wont have kids in it. Thankfully. You sick bastards.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Apr 2007 09:02    Post subject:
Who-CareZ wrote:
RubberChicken wrote:
scanberg_ wrote:
Fuck yes a Russian - the only decent thing about eastern europe,
Hope this release will have kids and shit to mow down.
otherwise meh.


Doubt it....


Why the hell would people be interested in killing kids in a game?

WTF killing adults is not enough or something? You people have issues.

I remember people asking the same shit when Boiling Point came out. Same idiots saying can you kill kids? There were people even trying to find the config file that contained the actual command to disable the god mode that was enabled on the kids in that game. So they could not be killed at all no matter what.

This game wont have kids in it. Thankfully. You sick bastards.


calm down its just a game Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Apr 2007 09:10    Post subject:
skidrow wrote:
Who-CareZ wrote:
RubberChicken wrote:


Doubt it....


Why the hell would people be interested in killing kids in a game?

WTF killing adults is not enough or something? You people have issues.

I remember people asking the same shit when Boiling Point came out. Same idiots saying can you kill kids? There were people even trying to find the config file that contained the actual command to disable the god mode that was enabled on the kids in that game. So they could not be killed at all no matter what.

This game wont have kids in it. Thankfully. You sick bastards.


calm down its just a game Rolling Eyes


I know its just a game. But whats next? People asking why cant we rape women in GTA? Then saying damn you cant rape anyone, Meh! Game sucks. Wanting to kill kids in a game. Give me a break.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Apr 2007 10:06    Post subject:
i want to kill cats and dogs Very Happy
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