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Arcks




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007 23:57    Post subject:
This delusional fanboy bullshit is really starting to annoy me. If the fucking combat system is so perfect and all, why there's many complaints about it?
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Krest




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:01    Post subject:
Oh thanks vodka, ignore the PM. Well now i gotta find that place as i already passed it a long time ago.
Spoilers:
The place where the first underground lab is located, go on the roof of that building and you can find an RPG in there, just one rocket though but still can take out a heli.


Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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Vodka-Redbull




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:02    Post subject:
Arcks wrote:
This delusional fanboy bullshit is really starting to annoy me. If the fucking combat system is so perfect and all, why there's many complaints about it?


Nobody said it's perfect. It's just realistic and thus the complaints.

P.S. fanboying is when you just yell the game is perfect without explaining why ))
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getthehellout




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:02    Post subject:
some screenies of my own

high detail @ 1280*1024, AA & AF almost max.

http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-05-30_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-06-51_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-08-10_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-28-17_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-49-53_(l01_escape).jpg

hf


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Vodka-Redbull




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:03    Post subject:
Krest wrote:
Oh thanks vodka, ignore the PM. Well now i gotta find that place as i already passed it a long time ago.
Spoilers:
The place where the first underground lab is located, go on the roof of that building and you can find an RPG in there, just one rocket though but still can take out a heli.


There's also an RPG in the trainyard map where you help the scientist - a soldier hits the Mi-24 Hind chopper and still has the weapon and 1 rocket on him.
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Radamez




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:04    Post subject:
Most of the guns at the start are pretty inaccurate, I almost always use single shot and aim for the head and about 1/10 hit with an AK or equivalent.

However upon reaching "experienced" and participating in the Arena matches, I was able to use a "TRs 301", fought 6 bandits with it in the match and they all went down instantly to perfectly placed headshots Smile Managed to go out and buy one from one of the guys in the Freedom base, love it.

By the way, maybe I'm not far enough into the game yet (Just finished X-18 lab) but, how do you join Factions? Like Duty, Freedom etc? I assume it's possible?
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revdirty




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:04    Post subject:
does this game have coop or will it be added as a patch ......if not i hope a coop mod is made real soon


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Smurf Stomper




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:04    Post subject:
realistic accuracy makes for a more enjoyable experience, anyone who's used actual firearms knows that movies and games that display high accuracy and minimize recoil effects diminish the believability of the simulation, which diminishes immersion. One of the reasons why Deus Ex and Brothers in Arms were/are so popular is that shooting mechanics behave realistically, forcing the player to use their brains over raw firepower, adding to the enjoyment.

So it comes down to taste and player preference. The industry standard however, is leaning more towards brains than raw firepower, which is why games like this are doing better in all aspects than say, Infernal.


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Vodka-Redbull




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:06    Post subject:
Smurf Stomper wrote:
So it comes down to taste and player preference. The industry standard however, is leaning more towards brains than raw firepower, which is why games like this are doing better in all aspects than say, Infernal.


Can't agree on this one. The battle is long lost to consoles and I ain't seeing much brains in console arcade style shooters.. (
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Krest




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:06    Post subject:
Yeah but they are so heavy, i just hide them in a nearby boxes. So many weapons i want to loot and carry at the same time, too bad you can only carry 50kg. Most of those 50 kg are bullets, and only one type of gun. Also another cool gun is located right near that shotgun you are supposed to find for a guy in the BAR, the pistol looks like a desert eagle.


Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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Arcks




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:09    Post subject:
Vodka-Redbull wrote:


Nobody said it's perfect. It's just realistic and thus the complaints.

P.S. fanboying is when you just yell the game is perfect without explaining why ))


Oh, since when has realistic meant good? And you apparently easily can call people who don't happen to like it mainstreamers. Yes, that's fanboy bullshit. Don't try to deny it.
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:09    Post subject:
getthehellout wrote:
some screenies of my own

high detail @ 1280*1024, AA & AF almost max.

http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-05-30_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-06-51_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-08-10_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-28-17_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-49-53_(l01_escape).jpg

hf

They don't have any AA and looks like no AF too, check your eyes.


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Krest




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:11    Post subject:
What about games like Arma and Flashpoint, those games are pretty realistic and have big fan base which means they are good. Stalker is somewhere in the middle, not totally extreme sim but also not totally arcadish.


Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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Arcks




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:14    Post subject:
Krest wrote:
What about games like Arma and Flashpoint, those games are pretty realistic and have big fan base which means they are good. Stalker is somewhere in the middle, not totally extreme sim but also not totally arcadish.


Well, in those games you can actually hit something with ironsights to farther then 10 meters. Yeah, even with you first rifle.
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Shantotto




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:16    Post subject:
Quick questions, if you stash your stuff in boxes and whatnot, won't other STALKERs come loot it? Or are the boxes 'safe' from that so to speak?

I still suck bad at this game, but I'm getting a bit better I think. A thing that kinda annoys me is that there are so many animals out in the wilderness (dogs, boars). I think the Zone feels a bit to packed with life, I could've done with a bit less.

A small cool thing I enjoyed a lot for some reason was when I encountered a pack of dogs that had surrounded and killed a STALKER. I wanted to loot his stuff, and eventually the dogs attacked me. I was getting ready to run away, but I dropped 2 or 3 dogs, and the other ones temporarily retreated. Which enabled me to run quickly to the corpse, get his stuff, and get out of there before the dogs were feeling brave again.
Small thing, but it felt rather cool for some reason.
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Krest




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:17    Post subject:
Yeah but in Arma you already a somebody, US military with good guns. In stalker you are a no one, so you gotta work you way up. YOu start up with shitty guns and then you progress to more powerfull ones. ANd i dont know, but i can hit shit with ironsight, sure not always but it gets the job done. THen you get the scopet for your AK, and in single shot it is pretty accurate close-mid distances.
Shantatto: I think its pretty safe to leave your stuff in the boxes, sometimes other people even add something. I left alot of stuff in a lot of boxes everywhere and it was always there when i came back. Also if you dont want to deal with the dogs, use the roads, usually the mutants do not attack you while you are on the road because they dont see you.


Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.


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getthehellout




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:17    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
getthehellout wrote:
some screenies of my own

high detail @ 1280*1024, AA & AF almost max.

http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-05-30_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-06-51_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-08-10_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-28-17_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-49-53_(l01_escape).jpg

hf

They don't have any AA and looks like no AF too, check your eyes.


Like I said, AA & AF not @ max


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Vodka-Redbull




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:18    Post subject:
Arcks wrote:
Krest wrote:
What about games like Arma and Flashpoint, those games are pretty realistic and have big fan base which means they are good. Stalker is somewhere in the middle, not totally extreme sim but also not totally arcadish.


Well, in those games you can actually hit something with ironsights to farther then 10 meters. Yeah, even with you first rifle.


Never were you able to shoot anything with one shot and sights in OFP from good distance. It has pretty much the same ballistics, btw.
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Arcks




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:21    Post subject:
Krest wrote:
Yeah but in Arma you already a somebody, US military with good guns. In stalker you are a no one, so you gotta work you way up. YOu start up with shitty guns and then you progress to more powerfull ones. ANd i dont know, but i can hit shit with ironsight, sure not always but it gets the job done. THen you get the scopet for your AK, and in single shot it is pretty accurate close-mid distances.


Yeah, I would understand, and it's shame that your characterer progression is practically binded to equipment. It really doesn't make sense that you suddenly can shoot fly from 100 meters when you get better advanced rifle, but you still fuck at shooting with ye olde ak.

Vodka-Redbull wrote:


Never were you able to shoot anything with one shot and sights in OFP from good distance. It has pretty much the same ballistics, btw.


Well, that's strange, because I were very much able to such things in OFP. Or maybe it's just that stalker has enemies that can take rifle bullets in chest in two digits. Or enemies that just don't seem to care that you filled his chest with couple bullets.


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Maxession




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:21    Post subject:
In the release: "S.T.A.L.K.E.R.Shadow.of.Chernobyl.EMUDVD-Unleashed", there's an vitality.nfo inside, but it has the title: "Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific (c) Ubisoft" in it, is this a wrong version or just a mistake? Confused
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Beffe




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:23    Post subject:
Don't know what is wrong but after I have played for about 5 min the "food Icon" show up and goes red in about 40 sec, then I "starve" to death in about 10 sec.

Any one know why it does this or any way to fix it ?
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VonStrahlen




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:24    Post subject:
DJSatane wrote:
VonStrahlen wrote:
alas.away wrote:
no quick save option in the game


Yeah there is, F6.


Can anyone confirm F6 is in fact quick save option?


Jesus fucking christ.. I JUST confirmed it.. What else do you want.
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S.S.S




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:24    Post subject:
getthehellout wrote:
Glottis wrote:
getthehellout wrote:
some screenies of my own

high detail @ 1280*1024, AA & AF almost max.

http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-05-30_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-06-51_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-08-10_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-28-17_(l01_escape).jpg
http://gr3c0.dommel.be/ss_gr3c0_03-19-07_23-49-53_(l01_escape).jpg

hf

They don't have any AA and looks like no AF too, check your eyes.


Like I said, AA & AF not @ max


Yeah but there seem to be no AA at all on the last screenshot.Look at the bridge , it's a jaggy mess Surprised .I get better AA than that on only the first level.Glottis is right , something is wrong with your AA.
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S.S.S




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:25    Post subject:
VonStrahlen wrote:
DJSatane wrote:
VonStrahlen wrote:


Yeah there is, F6.


Can anyone confirm F6 is in fact quick save option?


Jesus fucking christ.. I JUST confirmed it.. What else do you want.


Laughing
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Krest




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:27    Post subject:
Well you can be a freaking sharpshooter and hit a dime miles away, but it wont matter how good you are if the gun itself is inacurate. So its understandble that you miss using ak even if you have a scope. Having a scope doesnt guarantee 100% acuracy. If olde ak could do that, why not just use it everytime, why develop Dragunov.
Beffe eat some food like sausages, bread, or can food.


Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.


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streetunder




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:28    Post subject:
how do i buy weapons and ammo, and trade stuff ?
can i sell the artifacts?
how do i join factions?

anyone knows?
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Vodka-Redbull




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:29    Post subject:
VonStrahlen wrote:
DJSatane wrote:
VonStrahlen wrote:


Yeah there is, F6.


Can anyone confirm F6 is in fact quick save option?


Jesus fucking christ.. I JUST confirmed it.. What else do you want.


Just imagine - that guy was sitting there, not starting the game and waiting impatiently for you to confirm. You wouldn't dare launching it without being 100% sure.

God, some people need counseling...
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Parallax_
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:29    Post subject:
VonStrahlen wrote:
Jesus fucking christ.. I JUST confirmed it.. What else do you want.

What's the quick-load button? F5? Razz


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Krest




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:30    Post subject:
Not everyone buys everything, only the start up and the guy in the BAR can buy everything and have unlimited money. When you see a character press F and below the chat box you'll see TRADE click on it. You can seel the artifacts, and you should they are everywhere and are pretty expensive, a good way to make money. Not sure about factions.


Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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Arcks




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Mar 2007 00:33    Post subject:
Krest wrote:
Well you can be a freaking sharpshooter and hit a dime miles away, but it wont matter how good you are if the gun itself is inacurate. So its understandble that you miss using ak even if you have a scope. Having a scope doesnt guarantee 100% acuracy. If olde ak could do that, why not just use it everytime, why develop Dragunov.


Well, that's not point, the point is that the character still doesn't get good using old weapons. Ever.
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