NV 8000 series line up
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Mar 2007 16:16    Post subject: NV 8000 series line up
GeForce 8600 GTS
- Chiparchitektur: G84
- RAM: 256 MB GDDR3
- Speicherinterface: 128 Bit
- Chiptakt: 700 MHz
- RAM-Takt: 1000 MHz
- Preis: 199 - 249 US-Dollar


GeForce 8600 GT
- Chiparchitektur: G84
- RAM: 256 MB GDDR3
- Speicherinterface: 128 Bit
- Chiptakt: 600 MHz
- RAM-Takt: 700 MHz
- Preis: 149 - 169 US-Dollar


GeForce 8500 GT
- Chiparchitektur: G86
- RAM: 256 MB GDDR2
- Speicherinterface: unbekannt
- Chiptakt: 450 MHz
- RAM-Takt: 400 MHz
- Preis: 79 - 99 US-Dollar

Should be in the shops around 17th of April

The 8300 that will replace the 7300 should arrive end of April.


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Mar 2007 16:30    Post subject:
what is the point in 128bit, just saying i have 8xxx series vcard? Rolling Eyes

how many pipes will it have anyway?
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Mar 2007 16:39    Post subject:
I guess the price for "low-mid end" users. I have no idea regarding the details of these cards. I just found that on a German site. I guess NV will come with something more official as we get closer to April.


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Mar 2007 16:42    Post subject:
Google their prices, it's everywhere.
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Mar 2007 18:01    Post subject:
ELIZ wrote:
what is the point in 128bit, just saying i have 8xxx series vcard? Rolling Eyes

how many pipes will it have anyway?

Not everyone can afford a 384bit card... Rolling Eyes I think it's great that they are pushing the DX10 cards to as many people as possible, as opposed to stupid AMD that is delaying and delaying...
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Mar 2007 21:25    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
ELIZ wrote:
what is the point in 128bit, just saying i have 8xxx series vcard? Rolling Eyes

how many pipes will it have anyway?

Not everyone can afford a 384bit card... Rolling Eyes I think it's great that they are pushing the DX10 cards to as many people as possible, as opposed to stupid AMD that is delaying and delaying...


It's great that they are pushing DX10 cards with no driver support nor supported games...
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Mar 2007 21:36    Post subject:
There are no games because only small fraction of users have DX10 cards...
No drivers, well... FUCKING nVIDIA!
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Mar 2007 21:38    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
There are no games because only small fraction of users have DX10 cards...

The amount of cards being sold has nothing to do with the amount of DX10 games being made.


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Mar 2007 21:44    Post subject:
Well it looks like that 8600GTS or Ultra or whatever it will be called is gonna perform between a 7900GS and 7900GT. It's got half the stream processors or whatever as a 8800GTX. If everyones prediction of it performing within that gap and it retailing at that price then it's gonna be one hell of a card.
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Mar 2007 22:31    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
ELIZ wrote:
what is the point in 128bit, just saying i have 8xxx series vcard? Rolling Eyes

how many pipes will it have anyway?

Not everyone can afford a 384bit card... Rolling Eyes


it's like having 6600GT yes it has ps3.0 so?...it still will perform like shit
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Mar 2007 23:45    Post subject:
Reference to new SKU found in drivers over at vr-zone http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4727

NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0191.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX"
NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0193.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS"
NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0194.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra"
NVIDIA_G80.DEV_019E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600"
NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0400.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS"
NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0402.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT"
NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0421.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT"
NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0422.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS"

To counter R600?
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007 00:59    Post subject:
ELIZ wrote:
LeoNatan wrote:
ELIZ wrote:
what is the point in 128bit, just saying i have 8xxx series vcard? Rolling Eyes

how many pipes will it have anyway?

Not everyone can afford a 384bit card... Rolling Eyes


it's like having 6600GT yes it has ps3.0 so?...it still will perform like shit

Now that's ballony shit! I had a 6600GT for more than a year and loved it very much. It served me very well.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007 02:22    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
ELIZ wrote:
LeoNatan wrote:

Not everyone can afford a 384bit card... Rolling Eyes


it's like having 6600GT yes it has ps3.0 so?...it still will perform like shit

Now that's ballony shit! I had a 6600GT for more than a year and loved it very much. It served me very well.


Yup and I just upgraded from a 7600gt two monthes ago(ran oblivion with nearly everything maxed and hdr), which will be blown away by the new budget card. So performing like 'shit' is very subjective, I am sure those with a budget will not agree with you.


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007 02:35    Post subject:
A 6600GT chokes at 1024x768 with Medium settings, In my opinion it does perform like shit. It's a 9800Pro + 5% performance and SM3.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007 02:41    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
A 6600GT chokes at 1024x768 with Medium settings, In my opinion it does perform like shit. It's a 9800Pro + 5% performance and SM3.


The 6600 gt is a balanced dx9 card at a good price when it came out, it could play all games at max settings 2 years ago. It is pretty much obsolete NOW, don't be confused.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007 03:09    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
A 6600GT chokes at 1024x768 with Medium settings, In my opinion it does perform like shit. It's a 9800Pro + 5% performance and SM3.


The 6600 gt is a balanced dx9 card at a good price when it came out, it could play all games at max settings 2 years ago. It is pretty much obsolete NOW, don't be confused.


Nobody is confused, why debate a cards performance 2 years ago? We are talking about now and it is a shit card now period. What does it matter if it ran your games max settings 24 months ago, it doesn't cut it today end of story.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007 03:28    Post subject:
128bit card no matter how many pipes it will have will choke at high resolutions + some AA, unless someone still using 15" tft's with native 1024x768 resolution, lol even i do not
that was my point and why they still using 128bit when they could at least use 256bit ffs
with price tag 250$ i would go with 7900xx with 256bit with in somewhat already optimizied drivers

still i think upgrade is pointless for gaming that is, there is still gonna be unoptimized games which will require 10 patches to run smoothly and begging for new drivers which will or will not fix some problems, thats how it was and will be always, but that's just my opinion, u boys and girls spend your green on new hw each year and wait another for proper drivers Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007 04:41    Post subject:
Well I ran 16x12@30fps+ with recent games and most settings maxed on a 7600gt, and that still had 128bit interface, believe it or not. And not Everyone out there needs 8xAA+ to play a game. So I do not believe it to be as Huge a bottleneck...from experience. It is just another spec, one of many. Benchmarks will tell the final story.

And if users want dx10 they have more options. Of course if Nvidia prices these cards at the high-end of the spectrum, I wonder why someone wouldn't just grab a 8800gts with 320mb instead of 8600gts. Besides that, seems very reasonable for budget rigs.


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007 05:09    Post subject:
I think they are aiming at the right market with that 128bit bus card they will be offering. It's for the budget concious not the guys who shelled out $800 on a huge display, there is a much larger market for mid to low range cards then there is for the super high end.

Besides the 7600GT of last gen proved that even with a narrow bus it can perform quite well and I believe Nvidia will prove that again with this card.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007 07:44    Post subject:
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And if users want dx10 they have more options. Of course if Nvidia prices these cards at the high-end of the spectrum, I wonder why someone wouldn't just grab a 8800gts with 320mb instead of 8600gts. Besides that, seems very reasonable for budget rigs.


Exactly Im personally getting this in April I do not play at high resolution anyway so I dont really need the additional 320mb ram... And it should be quite a nice graphic card overall.


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007 16:41    Post subject:
bad move fron Nvidia. Who's gonna waste money on a 256mb card when current and futures games will require 512?
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