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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 20:36    Post subject:
hm performance etc seems to be bugi... waiting for some patches before I'm going to give it another go

and its seems that this game has vsync enabled by default.. that would explain why the fps doesn't go over 60 .....

graphically this game looks OK. (played on normal, dint try the high) and the view distance is quite lovely... but it runs like crap if you compare how it looks. Seems to me its badly optimized or shit like that


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pikachupi




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 20:39    Post subject:
Quote:
Tell me you're joking.
This isn't BF2 you dimwitted nut. ArmA accounts for wind, ballistics, gravity, etc. - sniping actually takes some thought, not just twitching at the right moment.


i see...so..as i said, its too realistic for me :/
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Butt_Surfer




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 20:47    Post subject:
dominae wrote:
pikachupi wrote:
dunno...i played it for hour +-..graphic is ok (dunno if the best ,but i loved the view)

gameplay is too realistic for me and sometimes strange and i mean, when i snipe soldiers that stand with no movement, i had to spend full magazine to kill one damn soldier..now this is not realistic, this is bug (and i am not bling and use g5 mouse)

also thing that made me mad a bit is the climbing a ladder animation..the hands are in the air pretending like holding the ladder..i mean come on...this is 2007.

i understood the idea of the game..be more realistic army sim...but i am not sure they did it well.


Tell me you're joking.
This isn't BF2 you dimwitted nut. ArmA accounts for wind, ballistics, gravity, etc. - sniping actually takes some thought, not just twitching at the right moment.


So it's definitely much more complex than OFP right? I don't remember wind and gravity being taken into account.
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Rakrul




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 21:03    Post subject:
Guys, BIS has said that Arma is just an upgraded OFP. Look at it as OFP 1.5. They made this so we would have something to play with until the true sequel is comming out. Its current workname is just Game2. It will have alot of the features that can be found in VBS and it is the true sequel to OFP.

When it comes to Arma, it still has lots of bugs and is unstable. This was due to publishers pushing for a release (Morphicon and Lem). Right now it's a fanboy release and unless you're a fanboy you won't enjoy it for another 2-3 patches. Those who played (and enjoyed) OFP finds the graphics stunning. Those who expect Quake 8 or whatever version its in now, will be disapointed. Here the game-engine is in focus, not the gfx-engine as you'll find in many FPS games. Unless you enjoy combat sims, (and BF2 is not a sim) you won't enjoy the game. I don't understand why people are getting so worked up about this.

Anyways, moving on to my problem. Smile I used the Procyon version to install, entered my german key and had the german (original) DVD in. Arma then turned german on me. Reading the nfo, they refer to a tools dir, but that's not there so I don't have the loader that hides Daemon Tools from SecuROM. Can anyone tell me what the tool is called?
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deelix
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 21:08    Post subject:
Don't you guys remember how unoptimized and buggy OFP was when it first came.. give it some months Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 21:17    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Don't you guys remember how unoptimized and buggy OFP was when it first came.. give it some months Wink

Yes, I do. But I would also like to think that developers learn from their mistakes - obviously not the case with Bohemia.


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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 21:18    Post subject:
@ Rakrul

This happens all the time....when PROCYON refers to a loader,they mean YASU!!! ppl don't seem to understand this.
And for me anyway...it's in the tools folder.Smile


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Rakrul




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 21:32    Post subject:
Thanks proekaan. I mounted the image, but there's no tools folder on the image. Seems like I'm misunderstanding something but I'll DL YASU.
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 22:01    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Don't you guys remember how unoptimized and buggy OFP was when it first came.. give it some months Wink

You say that like it's acceptable to release unoptimized crap like this... Sorry, I think this is unacceptable! Because of people like you, EA and UBI thrive with success!
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 22:04    Post subject:
Wtf !!!!!

I get a "Parameter is incorrect" eror .
And yes, latest DT ( with 1.39 ), Yasu 1.07 etc, etc...


I ve played Chezc version with no probs now this ..... Mad

Any hints ?
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 22:06    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
deelix wrote:
Don't you guys remember how unoptimized and buggy OFP was when it first came.. give it some months Wink

You say that like it's acceptable to release unoptimized crap like this... Sorry, I think this is unacceptable! Because of people like you, EA and UBI thrive with success!
Not really, i would never pay for it. I think its really wrong to just release it like it is now, but I guess it was a act of saving their own ass from being bank corrupted and keeping dates and stuff.
Lots of people will buy it because of the name... and hope for good patches.
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 22:15    Post subject:
A lot of people will buy it because despite the bugs it's still the best game in it's genre. You weigh the pro's and con's and no matter what you throw at Armed Assault you're going to come away with egg on your face; other than Operation Flashpoint and VBS1 there isn't any competition.


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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 22:20    Post subject:
VBS1?
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 22:22    Post subject:
Virtual Battle Space or something. OFP made for the army...
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 22:36    Post subject:
there *will* be patches and shitloads of community updates/mods/addons..same as operation flashpoint, the games tend to be either the kinda game you love(and put up with minor bugs) or dont like at all , i havent really seen anyone who just thinks it and opfla as just *ok*

personally opfla and ArmA,for me-are damn good games,flawed on release,but with a wealth of community support (kinda like the raven shield games/ghost recon *used* to be like-but lets not go there)


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matisto21




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 22:54    Post subject:
so can someone give review of this game is it any good?
or give link to review
ty
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KaiserSoze666




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 23:19    Post subject:
matisto21 wrote:
so can someone give review of this game is it any good?
or give link to review
ty

UK review http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=157308
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s13




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 23:32    Post subject:
sorry to intrude so late.. but with the amount of attention this game recieves here, i really want to check out my self.. sadly (till the retail ver comes out) my computer disagrees with me..
Using the procyon release, DT 4.08 HE + SPTD 1.38 and yasu 1.07 i still have the "Conflict with Emu S/w detected" error..
I know that this has been talked about endless amounts of time but if someone could throw a hint my way i would be most grateful..
I really enjoyed OFP so im eager to play this one..
Thanks.
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thyttel




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 23:36    Post subject:
Anyone been able to actually create a valid key for online play with Armed_Assault_Keygen-RazorDOX like they claim you do when making keys with their keygen?

Ive yet to find a key that doesnt give me "invalid key" when trying to connect to a server.

Is it me or was RazorDOX on drugs when making this claim?
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brewskybeer




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Feb 2007 23:51    Post subject:
thyttel wrote:
Anyone been able to actually create a valid key for online play with Armed_Assault_Keygen-RazorDOX like they claim you do when making keys with their keygen?

Ive yet to find a key that doesnt give me "invalid key" when trying to connect to a server.

Is it me or was RazorDOX on drugs when making this claim?


Maybe they meant that you can play online with their keygen, but you must be using a private server?
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Rakrul




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Feb 2007 00:03    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
]Not really, i would never pay for it. I think its really wrong to just release it like it is now, but I guess it was a act of saving their own ass from being bank corrupted and keeping dates and stuff.


Heh do you honestly belive they have survived 4-5 years on OFP/OFP:Elite alone? Their main income is from VBS where their customers are amongst others the USMC.

Seriously though, being a hardcore OFP fan I'm glad the release was pre-mature. I'm playing alot of Arma despite crashing once an hour. The sad thing about it is that it might discourage people from playing/buying it when it is ... presentable I guess. A public beta with proper debug-reporting and a worldwide release certainly would be preferred but I'm sure they had their reasons.
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HunterHare




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Feb 2007 00:35    Post subject:
I don't know what you all are talking about when you say this game is full of bugs and unfinished... I've been playing it for hours today and hours yeterday and last night... and I've only ran into 1 bug and it was simply resolved by restarting the mission. oh and sometimes the waypoint of your next move will disappear but this is resolved by looking at the map and then returning to game.

It's obvious that the game isn't optimized as good as it could be, especially seeing the devs are working on the next patch to improve the overall smoothness of the game.

I have all the settings on very high and the game runs fine, it gets a little choppy sometimes but like i said the devs are working on a patch to fix this. come on now before the game is even released in the US the improvements will be added and the product as you see will be 'finished' (just optimized to run on your medi-core systems).
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Feb 2007 02:29    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
deelix wrote:
Don't you guys remember how unoptimized and buggy OFP was when it first came.. give it some months Wink

Yes, I do. But I would also like to think that developers learn from their mistakes - obviously not the case with Bohemia.


Man you seem to spout alot of worthless arguements without backing anything up. What mistakes? That they aren't sellouts that can keep a game in development for years, costing literally millions of dollars, because they aren't backed by EA or UBI or someone else telling them how to do things and paying the bills? In which case the "hardcore simulation" part of the game would be the first to get the axe. And hell even companies who are sucking on the cocks of bigger companies put out buggier POS games than this one. Besides that I don't see any mistakes, besides maybe not catering to the huge audience that buys the mindless shooters that look so pretty but do nothing that hasn't been done 10^100000 times before. At least with OFP, it has only been once before.

Anyways I just started playing this, haven't been talking about it or even interested until I played it so it's not like I am a Bohemia fanboy-except maybe for buying the original? In which case I'm a fan of alot of games I bought and played for like 2 seconds. Actually when I saw the first screenshots, I thought it looked like shit and would be shit. Just shows how wrong screenshots can be. I think this is a fitting follow-up to a game which practically invented its own genre. And that is saying something.


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KeyserSoeze




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Feb 2007 05:03    Post subject:
I got some weird error msg when i tried to start.

I havent patched it and used some crack.

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aaaf3.jpg

Any ide what can be done about it?

I have a ATi x1900XT, newest drivers..
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HunterHare




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Feb 2007 05:45    Post subject:
KeyserSoeze wrote:
I got some weird error msg when i tried to start.

I havent patched it and used some crack.

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aaaf3.jpg

Any ide what can be done about it?

I have a ATi x1900XT, newest drivers..


don't know much about ATI cards but my guess is that your card maybe doesn't support pixel shader 2.0 which is required to run this game... just a guess.
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mike-




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Feb 2007 06:02    Post subject:
HunterHare wrote:
KeyserSoeze wrote:
I got some weird error msg when i tried to start.

I havent patched it and used some crack.

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aaaf3.jpg

Any ide what can be done about it?

I have a ATi x1900XT, newest drivers..


don't know much about ATI cards but my guess is that your card maybe doesn't support pixel shader 2.0 which is required to run this game... just a guess.

lol, 1900 is one of the more recent cards... im pretty sure it supports up to 3.0
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HunterHare




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Feb 2007 06:06    Post subject:
mike- wrote:

lol, 1900 is one of the more recent cards... im pretty sure it supports up to 3.0


I guess that's not the problem then Embarassed
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KeyserSoeze




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Feb 2007 07:42    Post subject:
Yes 1900 supports 3.0 so its not that hmm :/ This is weird.
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BONGMACHINERY




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Feb 2007 08:43    Post subject:
KeyserSoeze wrote:
I got some weird error msg when i tried to start.

I havent patched it and used some crack.

http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aaaf3.jpg

Any ide what can be done about it?

I have a ATi x1900XT, newest drivers..


I have an X800XL and got this same problem, however only after installing the czech-2-english patch. I have restored the original language files and am not getting this problem anymore. However I'm not gonna play this game in Czech obviously. Waiting for a fix for this here.

EDIT: Have reinstalled the game, this time in english. Use the key provided in the nfo and the game will be installed in english (1st time around I used a googled key, obviously coming from a Czech version of the game). Time to test this.
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Feb 2007 15:09    Post subject:
Wanted to post a quick tip for anyone who's getting the annoying: Emulation Software conflict error even tho you have the latest YASU & Daemon Tools 4.08HE....the problem is that you probably have OTHER emu software installed and need to disable or uninstall it. All you have to do is follow the blue link in Securom's message (they're so helpful sometimes) and it will tell you exactly what software is causing the problem. Sure enough I had blind write installed and one of its components was causing the problem. Hope it helps.
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