Having troubles running Oblivion on GF7800gs+ bliss
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Herman Toothrot




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 15:26    Post subject: Having troubles running Oblivion on GF7800gs+ bliss
errr hi to all. im desperately looking for help with weird stuff that is happening to oblivion on my PC. i tried on another forum so forgive me but ill just paste stuff i already wrote there =)

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right. i hope tehere wasnt any other similiar topic but i dont have time now to serch for it so forgive me if i doubled any topic. heres the deal. my pc specs. are P4 2.6 GHz, GF 7800gs+ bliss 512mb, 1gb ram (hope thats enough) when i play oblivion on the beginning everytging works fine. after i dunno... 15 minutes maybe more, every time something messes up :/ there are artefacts showing up everywhere (ppl without foreheads ^^ ) or game screen turns out black =/ and i can see just HUD and even hear sounds but i cant see anything =/ raraely games restes my pc. is there any solution to make everything right? every advice will be appreciated =)


there were many resposes but nothing helped so far. my pc isnt overclocked i dont have problems with other games (just oblivion is messed up), temepratures are in order... i dunno what to do... ahh one guy on other forum wrote

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Daxter, i have the exact same card; gainward bliss 7800gs+ 512.
i too have also suffered from corrupt facial textures in the chat mode and blackouts.

as for the first i simply restarted the game and it went away. i've only had it once.

i suffer blackouts in every session. if it happens i simply quicksave then reload. blackness gone!

as for the reasons why i could not say. i just work around the probs.
my card is running at 600/1400 in oblivion, so yes it is heavily overclocked.
my cpu and ram are also heavily overclocked.
driver wise im using 92.91.

i have to say though i think this gfx cards days are numbered! unfortunately i ran fraps yesterday and was horrified at the external areas fps!

i did have 1280x1024 with everything maxed. hdr on no aa.
i've since lowered some sliders etc!
oh, regarding the glitches you posted about, i don't think its temperature related. my case is heavily cooled and being winter here in the uk i've been playing in temps of 10 deg c. i think in my case its a combination of running 60 mods. a heavily clocked card, a heavily clocked cpu and ram = occasional glitch. however because i can fix it by simply quick saving and reloading i'd be hesitant to suggest hi temps.


and what? i will have to restart game every 30minutes of fun? nooo waaay... so whats the problem? lame pc or oblivon doesnt run properly on my gpu? please help ! Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 15:34    Post subject:
I ran Oblivion on a 7800GTX 512 with no probs at all.
I would imagine you have the latest vid drivers there, but what about chipset and BIOS?
Had a couple of incidents with other games in the past where the problem was old chipset drivers. Now I try to keep em up to scratch.


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Herman Toothrot




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 16:04    Post subject:
hmm about drivers i cant tell u right now cause im at work Wink i think they are the latest... or actually i have modified one from guru3d.com (had some problems with nvidia ones - i couldnt turn on fastwrites :/ and in game movies like intros were messed up oO ) about bios... my mainbrd is GA-8S655FX -L and im using bios ver F8 (i dunno if there is newer one - not on gigabyte site anyhoo). i had to modify bios manually to turn on fastwrites manually cause as i said... nvidia drvers didnt had that option at all... and chipset hmm that gives me trouble... what is chipset actually Very Happy dont take me wrong... i just cant figure out which computer part it is (in english Razz )


PS... avatar with original captain cox from simpsons was way cooler Razz


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 16:18    Post subject:
"When discussing personal computers (PCs) based on recent Intel Pentium-class systems, the term "chipset" often refers to the two main motherboard chips: northbridge and southbridge. The manufacturer of a chipset often is independent from the manufacturer of the motherboard"

I think in your case the chipset is SiS 655FX. So look for the latest driver and see if that helps.
In my case I just DL from the Nvidia site, but thats another story. I guess they should have the drivers at Gigabytes site.

Maybe its something else, but at least start with the latest drivers to dismiss if thats the problem, then maybe start looking elsewhere.

Yea thanks Wink I keep changing my SIG all the time.


EDIT!: There is 2 vesrions of that MOBO (Rev 1.0) and (Rev 1.1)
These are the links to the drivers
http://www.gigabyte.de/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ProductID=1708
http://www.gigabyte.de/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ProductID=1841

I would aslo try with the ORIG! NV driver just to check if its that modded driver that couses ur prob. Latest official driver is the "Version: 93.71"
The latest Beta is "93.81"

EDIT II :
Read over at the Oblivion forum that you run a 350W PSU...that could be the culprit, but... not 100%


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Herman Toothrot




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 16:42    Post subject:
i know that there are 2 ver of my mobo but hell i cant figure out which one is mine... bioses runs good from both versions getting me more confused Crying or Very sad ahh and one more thing... its like friging nightmare me and pc (i love ps2 [RIP :cry] ) lately i downloaded intel HT test... my processor passed t but chipset and bios didnt... i cant take it any longer Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 16:45    Post subject:
Wow! ok I am sure there must be a way to find out what version u have there. U dont have the manual or the box anymore? Or maybe it says somewhere in the BIOS ?

EDIT! http://no.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/FAQ_Model.aspx?FAQID=2234&ProductID=1840&ClassValue=Motherboard
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The version or revision numbers are printed on the PCB on all range of GIGABYTE's Motherboard. Users can find the corresponding "REV: 1.0" on the top left corner of the Motherboard (Please check reference chart). When user wishes to update either bios or driver please make sure the correct driver or bios is selected to correspond to your Revision of motherboard.

Sorry but it looks like you have to open your case there! Wink


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Herman Toothrot




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 17:04    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
Wow! ok I am sure there must be a way to find out what version u have there. U dont have the manual or the box anymore? Or maybe it says somewhere in the BIOS ?

EDIT! http://no.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/FAQ_Model.aspx?FAQID=2234&ProductID=1840&ClassValue=Motherboard
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The version or revision numbers are printed on the PCB on all range of GIGABYTE's Motherboard. Users can find the corresponding "REV: 1.0" on the top left corner of the Motherboard (Please check reference chart). When user wishes to update either bios or driver please make sure the correct driver or bios is selected to correspond to your Revision of motherboard.

Sorry but it looks like you have to open your case there! Wink


no problemo... its open all the time Wink never had box (bought in media markt or smth as a gift ; ) ) never noticed those rev thingies hm ill chck it out when i come back home. on other forum ppl R saying to me that probably my PSU isnt enough =/ and i dont have money to buy new one right now yhh is there possibilty that i upgraded bios to wrong rev and pc is running but not everything is as it should be?
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 17:11    Post subject:
Well a 350W PSU is sort a border line I would say. But try with those drivers when you get home. You work on a Sunday... Sad tuff guy Wink
And i don't know what probs you had with the standard NV drivers, but i would also try with the latest NV driver like I said, just to be sure.


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 18:00    Post subject:
tuff guy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy thee hee... yeah you know... feakin hipermarkert which is open whole week blah... but hey! i have internet Very Happy i had problems using latest NV drivers cause of this in game movies which were choppy and i couldnt turn on fastwrite option which helped 9thats why i hate pc Wink ) but now i modified my bios and i have that option to turn them on and riva tuner which also allows me to do this... whiout this movies are choppy and game runs like hell. hen fastwrites is on everything runs smooth... im confused with that HT test... like wtf... chipset has wrong drivers? bios is baaad?
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 18:08    Post subject:
Well at least U guys have service, in Germany all shops are closed on Sundays....exept the gas stations. But hey...HT test? thats for Intel stuff right? that Chipset of yours is an SIS 655FX. Never heard about that test so i am not sure here.


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 18:17    Post subject:
yeah its for intel... i have nice sticker on my case... Intel pentium 4 HT Wink soooo i decided to test it and turns out that cpu is indeed P4 HT but chipset and bios isnt Neutral wtf? ehy they sold me pc that cannot pass this test? or this test is maybe indeed for intel cpu, chipset and stuff... hey but gas stations also have booze Very Happy what other shops do you need? Very Happy i asked one guy in cmputer shop what can be wrong... he knew less then i at the moment Very Happy ahh polish service Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 18:27    Post subject:
HEHE, yep the "Vodka" is for sure my main liquid after coffee...a nesescity I would say. Yea sure a MOBO can have a different brand for chipset. My mobo is a EVGA (brand) with a Intel C2D socket, but with a Nvidia Chipset. There is also Intel chipsets etc.
Your is a SIS http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1487
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1487&page=4


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 18:43    Post subject:
so my pc actually works under HT hmm... yay i guess Very Happy right so for the drivers... there wont be any newer than on gigabyte www? and oh... one thing i installed gigabyte update wizard shows as not installed :/ ehhh i dunno what to do now Crying or Very sad so errr what stuff should i do in first place? dont tell me >> reinstall windows Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 18:52    Post subject:
Wow...Ur home or? those update wizards sorta works, but I would just update manually.
1st check out your Mobo version (v1.0) etc. get the corresponding Driver and install the chipset driver. If you need BIOS do that to, not sure if you can flash that from Windows, you might need a floppy for that (check the read me) then I would really try the latest NV driver, maybe they fixed the movie prob, at least try. If none of the above works, well...it might just be that PSU of yours that is not up to it.


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Herman Toothrot




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 19:20    Post subject:
im still at work Very Happy you know... on sundays shops with cell phones arent actually most popular ones Wink oh question Very Happy is there any tility that will safe remove my mobo drivers? i dont wanna format again (i bought ram recently and on of memories was messed up and messed up my files a little - you know restarts etc. so i had like 5 formats in a row Wink ) i flashed bios from windows... thankfully because my floppy disk drive is errr i dunno what it is but it ain't working one Very Happy so much work to do with this freakin pc at home Crying or Very sad so little time Very Happy and i dont wanna spend my free day just to making things right...
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 20:16    Post subject:
Well only done Chipset update with NV drivers, but its all from Windows and I guess they overwrite, so no need to worry really. Just run and you probably have to reboot and thats that.

I am the kind of weirdo that constantly monitors my PC, updates, checks and refine the system the whole time. Its a kind of phobia I guess, but Razz yea I guess I am weird like that. If things don't run like they should even by 2-3 % of "MY" target, I will investigate and fix it... its just how I am.


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Herman Toothrot




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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Jan 2007 14:19    Post subject:
right. forgive me but ill paste my other post from different forum Wink its not disrespect but u know... im at work again Very Happy here goes nothing...

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ok and here is update... i borrowed PSU from my friend to test a little. PSU is from tracer and on 12V it has 15A and now i have 1.5gb ram which runs on 333Hz and stuff is still happening... 18A is absolutely minimum? or maybe i have f***ked up gfx? =/ also since not everything with my pc is fine i have my doubts so i see conspiracy everywhere biggrin.gif so i checked something and it turns out that everywhere 7800gs+ looks like that

http://www.gainward.de/media/files/Specifi...S_datasheet.pdf

and mine looks like that http://www.gainward.de/media/files/Specifi...H_datasheet.pdf

i have box like the first one but i have sticker GOES LIKE HELL like on second box but card looks the same as the second one :/ is this possible that somebody messed with me and gave me wrong card? can i somehow check what card i have? because i cant see that + anywhere =/ its like 7800gs card... except it hasne have any + near its name... i dunno... maybe its just different cooler? or maybe somebody rolled me over and i overpayed and that somebody will die? biggrin.gif


kill me please!


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