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dekgol10




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 09:40    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
high vs ultra

http://imgur.com/a/7WKxw

I don't see any difference between high and supposedly ultra except for VRAM usage Very Happy . I have HD pack enabled and installed in properties. The game has to be restarted after you change texture settings so positioning is a bit different.


What about Medium ? Can you see differents between high and medium?
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 09:46    Post subject:
int looks terrible for a HDULTRATEXTUREPACK6GBVRAM2xxx/2xxxRESOLUTION Laughing

crysis looks better PC Master Race
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 09:50    Post subject:
dekgol10 wrote:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
high vs ultra

http://imgur.com/a/7WKxw

I don't see any difference between high and supposedly ultra except for VRAM usage Very Happy . I have HD pack enabled and installed in properties. The game has to be restarted after you change texture settings so positioning is a bit different.


What about Medium ? Can you see differents between high and medium?
What do you think? Laughing
...if not, the devs are complete idiots
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 09:53    Post subject:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Mittelerde-Mordors-Schatten-PC-258069/Specials/Hands-on-Test-Ultra-Texturen-1137689/

Performance comparison and they also test the ultra textures.

EDIT: In one of the config files the HD Pack is called "; High Mip Archives" so it might be that it only enhances the mip-map of the textures which means objects further away from the player / camera.


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Steelone




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 09:59    Post subject:
How is the character progression in this game? Do you get passively stronger, better equipment etc, or is it all new abilities/actives?
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MiB




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:09    Post subject:
lol.. the size.. omg..
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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:09    Post subject:
@JBeckman
do you see any difference? I don't. Very Happy

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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:10    Post subject:
Yeah I just edited my post a bit since I discovered the comment for the texture pack is " ; High Mip Archives " as such it is possible only the mi-maps are enhanced and that means stuff further away from the player.
(Texture resolution being halved after a certain distance and then halved again a certain distance from that and so on, means you would see the full texture detail further out but near texture detail remains identical since it's already at full resolution.)
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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:15    Post subject:
@JBeckman

Damn.. I say they fucked us big time. Laughing What I see on the screen having ultra textures enabled regardless of distance doesn't warrant 5-5.5GB VRAM usage at 1080p

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Gobass




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:17    Post subject:
just test this on my rig i5 3.40 and gigabyte 780
1920/1080
all max except texture on HIGH

Max:226.26
Average: 71.84
Min: 38.14

and with texture on ultra

Max:227.21
Average: 70.55
Min: 35.17

no much of a differences between high and ultra !

hehe my bad Very Happy


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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:18    Post subject:
Quote:
Max:71.84
Average: 226.26
Min: 38.14


Mind Is Full Of Fuck
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Divvy




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:20    Post subject:
Textures going above your VRAM limit usually doesn't manifest in lowered framerates, but rather intermittent stutters.
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:20    Post subject:
Any way to disable intros?

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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:21    Post subject:
So in other words Ultra textures only affects to VRAM usage not image quality (since you cant see even to the distance). Its like Crysis 2 invisible water tesselation Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:21    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Quote:
Max:71.84
Average: 226.26
Min: 38.14


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good test man

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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:23    Post subject:
Lol dat high vs ultra Reaction

I also don't get the people saying it looks amazing.. imo it's passable at best, i personally think that witcher2 looks better.

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dekgol10




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:28    Post subject:
Why no one talks about medium vs high (80% of the gamers still have 2GB card).
How it looks?
Please answer.
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:29    Post subject:
So what exactly does it need all that VRAM for? Aside from the fact that it's obviously just a mip-map change, the actual textures themselves are fucking horrible. CoD: Ghosts called, it wants its joke back.
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:32    Post subject:
I didn't notice it at first but when you select Ultra preset it sets AO to high, not ultra and when you switch it to ultra it has a noticeable fps drop..

@dekgol10 gimme me a minute, I'll make some screenshots Wink

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Casus




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:34    Post subject:
Average FPS and so forth isn't necessarily best for this test. If Ultra "needs" 6GB VRAM, we can expect stuttering as it loads and processes textures more than anything.

So, is there stuttering?
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:40    Post subject:
man fuck the vram, what about the fucking game?

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Vikerness




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:42    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
man fuck the vram, what about the fucking game?
fuck the game man, we need more on vram usage and texture quality

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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:43    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
man fuck the vram, what about the fucking game?


Game apparently is super fun according to reviews, so let's go back to talking about those shitty textures and visuals Cool Face
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dekgol10




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:43    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
I didn't notice it at first but when you select Ultra preset it sets AO to high, not ultra and when you switch it to ultra it has a noticeable fps drop..

@dekgol10 gimme me a minute, I'll make some screenshots Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:44    Post subject:
Laughing
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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:50    Post subject:
@dekgol10

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit


something weird has happened.. I had to restart my PC and now when I launch steam it doesn't detect that I have SOM installed already WTF!?
any way to fix it?
sorry m8 lol I'll have to reinstall it first, it will take ~50 minutes

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HIz




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:51    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
man fuck the vram, what about the fucking game?


game is fun
if you like AssCreed and Batman Arkham you'll like this.

Werelds wrote:
So what exactly does it need all that VRAM for?


NVDIIIAAAHHH $ Laughing
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:56    Post subject:
HIz wrote:
Werelds wrote:
So what exactly does it need all that VRAM for?


NVDIIIAAAHHH $ Laughing

your conspiracy theory doesn't make any sense whatsoever. nvidia just released cards that are 4GB, if anything this is bad for nvidia and customers who just bought 4GB cards might be angry.
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:57    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
So what exactly does it need all that VRAM for? Aside from the fact that it's obviously just a mip-map change, the actual textures themselves are fucking horrible. CoD: Ghosts called, it wants its joke back.


Well they could be better but I find them to be OK although for the VRAM amount they do use they could look a lot better. Very Happy

Some screens, for the intro sequence the game often moves between in-game and pre-rendered which looks a bit jarring since those seem to be ~720P only.
 Spoiler:
 


EDIT: Framerate is around ~40 or so but I am using everything at max (Including the HD pack of "mip-maps" or whatever it does.) and a screen scale of 150% or 2880x1600 but downsampled.
(Tried 200% but 3840x2400 causes the framerate to drop below 30 which I'm trying to avoid.)


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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 10:57    Post subject:
Why would people get angry? If it was some super amazing omg looking game with huge differences between high and ultra someone might give a fuck.. but this? Laughing

Also someone tested it on a 980 on ultra textures and no stuttering. I'd test it as well but not gonna waste time downloading and installing this to uninstall 2mins later Sad

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