War: EU vs. USA
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jan 2007 06:02    Post subject:
MikiMouse wrote:
Whata stupid topic you can discuss USA vs Mars in case aliens attack with same luck.


mars FTW!!! Razz
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BearishSun




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jan 2007 09:36    Post subject:
MikiMouse wrote:
Whata stupid topic you can discuss USA vs Mars in case aliens attack with same luck.


Thanks for the idea
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Siddhartha




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PostPosted: Thu, 11th Jan 2007 18:39    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
Siddhartha wrote:
This thread is an amusing one. While I would like to think the USA would win, I think it would depend on a number of factors:
1) Would the combatants use nuclear weapons or would this be a purely conventional war?
2) Would both sides mobilize all of their capabilities unselfishly (i.e. would Poland be able to contribue to the EU war effort as well as Britain and France could? Would other states chip in to help the poorer countries mobilize?)
3) Would the EU generals take into account that some countries' forces would be weaker and less trained than others, or would they be politically correct and risk losing battles to appease the politicians?
4) What neutral parties (China, Russia, India, Africa, Canada, Mexico, etc.) would involve themselves and what sort of support would they provide?
5) Would one or both parties resort to the no-holds-barred kind of warfare needed to dominate an enemy or would they fight the war politically?

I think the most important questions are #1 and #2. I don't see either side winning a nuclear war. As for EU mobilization and commitment of troops, the EU as a country would have to worry that specific member states would ignore the demand for troops to appease their own citizens, particularly if they felt their country's troops were dying/being sent to the most dangerous places unfairly. If the EU truly combined in the face of a common threat, you could be an awesome force. Right now, the EU lacks the unity to win a struggle. The EU reminds me of the Austro-Hungarian Empire fighting in WW1, and their diversity and lack of unity hurt their combat effectiveness.



What about the Canadian Role???? Very Happy Razz


I think Canada would probably stay neutral, due to strong ties to both UK and US. (factoring the UK in with the EU, otherwise there is a stronger chance it would join the US and UK). Canada would be in a better position to assist in a war against the EU than against the US. The threat from the EU would be far less than from the US because Canada shares such a large undefended border with the US and is vastly weaker militarily. Occupying Canada would be difficult, however, due to the number of guns available in the country.
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jan 2007 12:53    Post subject:
1 of the 17 US nuclear submarines with each 17x 100 mt nuke power would destroy europe alone I feel sorry for the people who actualy think europe can win such a war. even with Russia on Europe side or the whole world probably nobody would win. tens of thousands nukes could be launched. from both sides
my point of view it ain't gonna happen. if US would realy be such an evil regime as some of you think some nations would already have interfene Russia ,china , mather of fact is they don't realy have such an big issiue with the US as long as US won't invade or bomb either one of them they will be silent.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jan 2007 12:59    Post subject:
Highstuff - nobody know if a war between Europe/US would turn into a nuclear war. Im pretty sure US would hesitate using nukes as there are more countries who's got them and who might retaliate. Using nukes would proberbly get you aggro from every other country on this planet imo.


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Noob
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jan 2007 20:30    Post subject:
MAD - no one wins.

You guys not seen War Games?!
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