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Interesting... Does it matter though? All other files' versions are corresponding to the RTM build.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 19:41 Post subject: |
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Hard to tell, since install.wim is ~90% of the data on the disc in a single file, it could be different by a single byte, or there could a whole bunch of differences, no way to know unless the contents of install.wim are extracted and compared.
It seems that the BillGates release (patched and unpatched) and even the WinBeta release aren't copies of the final RTM files that MS is distributing, since they're not just different becuase of the way it's packed into the iso, there are differences to the actual files 
Anyway, I compiled a list of info about the official MS images confirmed across various sites:
| Code: | English 32-bit ISO
Names: en_windows_vista_x86_dvd_X12-34293.iso // vista_6000.16386.061101-2205_x86fre_client-LRMCFRE_EN_DVD.iso
Size: 2,678,614,016 bytes
CRC-32: 0xC11363AA
MD5: 1008f323d5170c8e614e52ccb85c0491
SHA1: b71e04564ca22e4d9928e59298eff87cf62b382b
CRC-64: 0xFC286B39901AD47D ??
English 64-bit ISO
Names: en_windows_vista_x86_dvd_X12-34293.iso // vista_6000.16386.061101-2205_x64fre_client-LRMCxFRE_EN_DVD.iso
Size: ??
CRC-32: 0xCE211A58
MD5: 11e2010d857fffc47813295e6be6d58d
SHA1: 04671ce6713921983ff23ab9fc3e7a9280712b94
CRC-64: 0x6CDA20BE3666F917 ?? |
The CRC-64 values might be swapped around, I couln't find a second source for them.
Last edited by gobbix on Fri, 17th Nov 2006 19:42; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 19:48 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 19:52 Post subject: |
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| WalkerBoh wrote: | 25h are passed but still 30 days left. Yeahhh it works!!!!
The answer to second question is no. I have installed Vista when was plugged my other HD with XP on. |
So my questions for you are this: Which release did you use? Did you input a key or not? Did you do a full format or a quick format? Were there any other partitions on the drive that you installed to?
Thanks so much.. I'm just trying to clear this up before I try for a third time.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 19:53 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 20:09 Post subject: |
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| nanackle wrote: | | WalkerBoh wrote: | 25h are passed but still 30 days left. Yeahhh it works!!!!
The answer to second question is no. I have installed Vista when was plugged my other HD with XP on. |
So my questions for you are this: Which release did you use? Did you input a key or not? Did you do a full format or a quick format? Were there any other partitions on the drive that you installed to?
Thanks so much.. I'm just trying to clear this up before I try for a third time. |
-BillGates release + msdn patch
-no key inserted
-i don't remeber there was a choice of what format.
-there were no partions i have erased the whole HD.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 20:51 Post subject: |
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| Ne0- wrote: | i got a damn display error when trying to play bf 2142
it flickers the whole time... any ideas? |
I think you should wait for official video drivers, cause there are only betas as far as i know.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 21:07 Post subject: |
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Oh, shit... Activations says now that 29 days are left... I guess it didn't work! 
Bla!
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 21:10 Post subject: |
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it testet now several games and i got display errors in every single goddamn game... so i hope nvidia will release the final forceware as soon as possible
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 21:22 Post subject: |
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I don't know... I tought it worked, had it for more than a day when I checked then, and it was 30. I checked 10 mins. ago and now it's 29 days! But I tried the following: Set the date to 30/11/06 and restarted. It was still 29 days. I just don't know.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 21:55 Post subject: |
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So there is no way to activate vista for 100% sure then is there?
Whats the differnce between the BillGates version and the dvd of winbeta?
greetz
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 21:59 Post subject: |
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Winbeta is an AIO (All in One) with 64bit and 32bit versions. IT has some custom scripts though, and has bugs. BillGates is 32bit only.
I tried changing the date forward in the bios. I set it as 19/11 and it was still 29 days in activation. Very strange indeed...
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 22:07 Post subject: |
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ah i c and does billgates has got bugs to or not so mutch as winbeta rls ?
greetz
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 22:09 Post subject: |
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No bugs in BG release... I use it, with the MSDN patch.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 22:20 Post subject: |
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Vista has a countdown timer that is totally separate from the system clock. Tick tock tik tock...
Get to a command prompt and type slmgr -dli and you will see what I mean.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 22:28 Post subject: |
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No way to restart that counter?
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 22:42 Post subject: |
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the billgates rls, can u select to install the ultimate version to or is it only 1 version like proff. ?
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 22:46 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 23:00 Post subject: |
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| lnatan25 wrote: | Winbeta is an AIO (All in One) with 64bit and 32bit versions. IT has some custom scripts though, and has bugs. BillGates is 32bit only.
I tried changing the date forward in the bios. I set it as 19/11 and it was still 29 days in activation. Very strange indeed... |
have you installed the WinBeta release to see if there are bugs?
how can you tell? where did you read that??
i think you are full of shit cause i have it installed and it works flawlessly
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 23:09 Post subject: |
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isnt that obvious?!
all vista display drivers are in BETA version... both ati and nvidia
you can expect display errors very frequently
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 23:16 Post subject: |
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| anti-flag wrote: | isnt that obvious?!
all vista display drivers are in BETA version... both ati and nvidia
you can expect display errors very frequently |
sure but with vista final microsoft given proper wdm drivers that SHOULD work....
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 23:20 Post subject: |
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anti-flag, the installer is full of bugs! What you install is Vista RTM, the same as BG.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 23:21 Post subject: |
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SHOULD and DO work for windows vista, not for games or other applications you might want to install.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Nov 2006 23:21 Post subject: |
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| Ne0- wrote: | | vna wrote: | | Ne0- wrote: | i got a damn display error when trying to play bf 2142
it flickers the whole time... any ideas? |
Hi!
Try changing V-sync in the options. Sometimes you have to turn it on and sometimes you have to turn it off (eg. NHL 2006 doesn't work if it's disabled). |
thx for hint but it dont work for me
i tried forcing v-sync in nvidia cp but still the same damn display errors |
I had the same with some games and after disabling the shadows the flickering went away. So may u should give it a try.
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Nov 2006 00:11 Post subject: |
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| lnatan25 wrote: | | No way to restart that counter? |
Found this from another site:
slmgr -xpr
shows when vista's initial grace period ends. So, that's another way to tell if the 2099 trick worked or not. This is my 3rd time trying the thing and looks like it does not work on my machine.
Here's another one to reset the re-arm (haven't tried it though):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SL
& set "SkipRearm" to "0".
That's for folks who use the re-arm command (also haven't tried it myself):
slmgr -rearm
Something else I've found that's not been mentioned yet, is the installed date reg key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\InstallDate
I have not tried it yet, but it could be that vista is using this key to know when to count down. But that's a bit too obvious to me. It can't be as simply as changing this value to increase the grace period. Nah, no way. 
What's wierd is when I first run "slmgr -xpr", I get the following:
12/17/2006 9:16:12 AM
when I run it again, I get this:
12/17/2006 9:16:32 AM
WTF? Shouldn't it be counting down not up? Well, 3rd time it shows this:
12/17/2006 9:15:58 AM
Then the 4th time, it shows this (unchanged):
12/17/2006 9:15:58 AM
What is going on here??
My "slmgr -dli" command shows this (after two times running the command):
Time remaining: 42754 minutes(2) (29 day(s))
Time remaining: 42727 minutes(2) (29 day(s))
Note, this is with my 3rd try at the 2099 bios trick.
Update:
The damn thing is confused. Now it reports this:
12/17/2006 9:16:30 AM
At least the dli command is consistent:
Time remaining: 42706 minutes(2) (29 day(s))
Oh, yeah, my registry InstallDate shows:
0xf2a5a012 (4070940690)
January 1st, 2099?  Anyone knows how to decipher that?
Update 2:
Found this while googling:
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InstallDate REG_DWORD Time (in seconds) since 12:00 A.M. on January 1, 1970r
Default: (There is no default value for this entry. The system calculates this value during installation.)
Stores the date and time that the current build of Windows NT was installed.
For example, Monday, January 01, 1996, 12:00:00 AM would be 0x30E76A50 (820,472,400 seconds).
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Update 3:
Holy shit! It is 2099 from 1970 (129 years):
4 070 940 690 seconds = 129.003081 years
Update 4:
After reboot, I ran the "slmgr -dli" command again and guess what:
Time remaining: 42715 minutes(2) (29 day(s))
Vista started counting over again!
But the "slmgr -xpr" command is still confused:
12/17/2006 9:48:13 AM
So, the 2099 method does work. I guess I didn't check all this when I tried it the first 2 times. It probably worked but I didn't know to check. Bastards! I feel stupid now.
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I checked CRC for MSDN patched BILLGATES release.
