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Nec
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You're welcome.
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JBeckman
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Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2006 22:44 Post subject: |
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That one seems to be some new dll file and the old 1.07 files mixed together.
(Atleast from what I see and from what I read about it)
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2006 23:24 Post subject: |
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yeah so? if you manage to start the game at version 1.08 .. who gives a shit if it's a proper crack or no? or are you some scene-obedient whores? ^_^
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2006 23:32 Post subject: |
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In the majority of cases, source-code is compiled into the main EXE (or a large portion of it). When you use an old crack, you use the old code.
Do you give a shit if it's a proper crack now? Learn before posting BS!
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Nov 2006 00:02 Post subject: |
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| lnatan25 wrote: | In the majority of cases, source-code is compiled into the main EXE (or a large portion of it). When you use an old crack, you use the old code.
Do you give a shit if it's a proper crack now? Learn before posting BS! |
Firstly, you may be right, but that doesn't mean that the no-dvd posted on GCW isn't a workaround ( quote: Note: This ain't a proper fix as it is using the v1.07 EXE but it's the best/only solution for now! ..... "solution" does have a meaning, doesn't it? )
Secondly, observe the keyword in my previous post -> "IF"
If i were you i would learn to read and interpret text before flaming someone.. my 2 cents
Anyway, i'll test this later and post info, if someone else doesn't beat me to it 
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Nov 2006 06:46 Post subject: |
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"In the majority of cases, source-code is compiled into the main EXE (or a large portion of it). When you use an old crack, you use the old code.
Do you give a shit if it's a proper crack now? Learn before posting BS!"
That may be true in regard to some new patch by razor but...
With all due respect, that's wrong.
Esspecially in this case. I can confirm, and have been PLAYING gothic 3 v 1.08 for over a week using my posted method. As far as confirmation goes.. I've experienced a 5 FPS average gain, as well as the disappearance of the armor bug, and the stun-lock.
In this case it works. I understand your logic, but these patches from PB don't work that way. I developed this workaround rather easily, and am surprised nobody else thought of the same thing. Perhaps it is because what you say is usuallly true, and no developer would release patches that permit the previous cracked patch to override the protection, while still providing the benefits of a fully patched, fully purchased game.
Still a shame this game is so buggy. Fun stuff if you can put up with the glaring imperfections.
TGIF
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Nov 2006 08:53 Post subject: |
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it doesnt work for real. when you play the crossbows still act like they did(auto reload) with 1.07 patch so dont bother with this.
and your posted method is the same johny2bags.
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Nov 2006 16:37 Post subject: |
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I've been using Johnny's method for a few days now, it works great, the game is more stress free (I don't run away like a little bitch when I come across animals). I still check for an "official" 1.08 crack every day, as I'd just feel better knowing I'm using a real 1.08 .exe. But until one comes out, or until the cracked US version comes out, I'll be doing it Johnny's way.
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Nov 2006 16:51 Post subject: |
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| Johnny2Bags wrote: | "it doesnt work for real. when you play the crossbows still act like they did(auto reload) with 1.07 patch so dont bother with this.
and your posted method is the same johny2bags."
No actually dipshit the crossbows are fixed when done my way. Can tell you actually tried my method....
Of course Crossbows are ALWAYS auto reload, but after the 1.08 patch they are drastically faster, and you can run while reloading where before you couldnt. christ. |
"your method" and the crack at gamecopyworld and basically the same thing, only the crack replaces only the files necessary to play without the dvd... where in your method you need to patch the entire game to 1.07.
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Nov 2006 17:58 Post subject: |
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| anti-flag wrote: | | Johnny2Bags wrote: | "it doesnt work for real. when you play the crossbows still act like they did(auto reload) with 1.07 patch so dont bother with this.
and your posted method is the same johny2bags."
No actually dipshit the crossbows are fixed when done my way. Can tell you actually tried my method....
Of course Crossbows are ALWAYS auto reload, but after the 1.08 patch they are drastically faster, and you can run while reloading where before you couldnt. christ. |
"your method" and the crack at gamecopyworld and basically the same thing, only the crack replaces only the files necessary to play without the dvd... where in your method you need to patch the entire game to 1.07. |
This I know. The patch uses the same basic principal as my homebrew procedure. However, some people in this thread were stating that the crossbow wasn't working with the GCW crack, and that since "my method" was roughly similar (by no means the same) that by default the crossbows weren't working if you did it like I suggested.
The crossbows and indeed everything fixed in patch 1.08 is present and in working order for me.. I came off a bit harsh, but I don't like being associated with some crack that APPARENTLY doesn't work, or at least work the way my suggested way does.
I'm not advocating either one really. The crack is pretty similar.. but if people are experiencing the same problems in 1.08 w/ GCW crack that they were in 1.07 with original crack, then I simply think that they should try my way, as It's really just as easy, and is confirmed.
Either way do what you want. Both work i'm sure. Just don't post slander and spam containing complete BS about the override I posted, as someone did above you.
best regards,
J2B
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Nov 2006 18:00 Post subject: |
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| dataschmuck wrote: | | I've been using Johnny's method for a few days now, it works great, the game is more stress free (I don't run away like a little bitch when I come across animals). I still check for an "official" 1.08 crack every day, as I'd just feel better knowing I'm using a real 1.08 .exe. But until one comes out, or until the cracked US version comes out, I'll be doing it Johnny's way. |
Thanks man, I'm glad the game is working great for you. I to am waiting for an official crack, or better yet, the next Official patch from PB, coupled with a fresh crack would be perfect =)
have fun
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Nov 2006 20:41 Post subject: |
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lags here before 1.08 crack from razor at gamecopyworld.
No more changes for me I´ve seeing.
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Nov 2006 21:30 Post subject: |
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only thing fixed is the boar doesnt waste u away, game still lags every few secs outdoors...
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| Posted: Sat, 4th Nov 2006 22:03 Post subject: |
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| xxxRIPTERxxx wrote: | | only thing fixed is the boar doesnt waste u away, game still lags every few secs outdoors... |
Yeah the game is still pretty unoptimized. A slight bit better than before the patch though, I am guessing depending on your computer you may or may not notice much of a gain.
Armor bug is fixed and crossbow, those were the two game-stoppers for me anyways.
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si110
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Location: Hobart,Australia.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Nov 2006 00:08 Post subject: |
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Crossbows arent auto reload in my 1.08 version, and I cant reload while running. No cracks. With crossbow I need to left click to load and then left click again to shoot.
Once again, NO CRACK APPLIED. So this must be how it is supposed to be.
BF3 = Stompya
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Nov 2006 01:48 Post subject: |
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| si110 wrote: | Crossbows arent auto reload in my 1.08 version, and I cant reload while running. No cracks. With crossbow I need to left click to load and then left click again to shoot.
Once again, NO CRACK APPLIED. So this must be how it is supposed to be. |
The whole point is that they were auto-reload in the pre-patched version. Meaning as soon as you fired a shot you were stuck in place while you reloaded.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Nov 2006 02:07 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | si110 wrote: | Crossbows arent auto reload in my 1.08 version, and I cant reload while running. No cracks. With crossbow I need to left click to load and then left click again to shoot.
Once again, NO CRACK APPLIED. So this must be how it is supposed to be. |
The whole point is that they were auto-reload in the pre-patched version. Meaning as soon as you fired a shot you were stuck in place while you reloaded. |
Yes that's true. It's odd though.. I did a fresh install using the method I posted a way back, and it's like this.
the 1.07 patch left you standing there as animal fodder while it auto-reloaded slow as hell.
The new 1.08 patch FOR ME is the same in terms of auto-reload for me, but you can run around while doing it, and it's about 3 times as fast as the previous patch... I'm more than ok with that =)
It's weird to hear "si110" say that somehow his version of 1.08 is different and he has to do it manually. There's really no explanation, as my method leaves you with the new animation files so i'm at a bit of a loss. Meh.. Either way it's better for us all I guess.
Edit: I'm just curious Si110, I believe you bout your game... just weird. do you have a german version maybe? i dunno.
I"m currently trying to build up my Rebel reputation from 52 to 70'something so i can purchase Paladin armor. I already have the cash! But I don't want to liberate any more towns as that will screw up any future options I might have.
If anyone has any passive and relatively easy methods of building the Rebels reputation I would be much abliged.
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Buddymander
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Location: both dangerously delicious and deliciously dangerous
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Nov 2006 02:20 Post subject: |
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If anyone needs to know where to go or help with a quest just go here.
Gothic 3 Game Guide
Its not a complete giude or anything but its helpful.
| Quote: | | Take everything I say seriously or else |
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Nov 2006 02:27 Post subject: |
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| Buddymander wrote: | If anyone needs to know where to go or help with a quest just go here.
Gothic 3 Game Guide |
Wow thanks, I didn't know they whipped one up yet! I was checking gamefaqs every day or so. Nice =)
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si110
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Location: Hobart,Australia.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Nov 2006 03:12 Post subject: |
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Johhny2Bags, I have the english nrg file to install from, and use the german VCDclone to run it.
I fire of a bolt, I can run around and do stuff but if I want to fire it again I have to left click first to load, then left click again to shoot.
BF3 = Stompya
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Nov 2006 03:28 Post subject: |
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| si110 wrote: | Johhny2Bags, I have the english nrg file to install from, and use the german VCDclone to run it.
I fire of a bolt, I can run around and do stuff but if I want to fire it again I have to left click first to load, then left click again to shoot. |
Wow that's pretty odd? I at one time had all versions of the release. German VCD, English NRG, and english razor at last. I've had and tried almost all combinations of them.. (German VCD with seperate "english_pak" language, 1.08 with VCD clone, etc.)
I can't really explain what you're experiencing.
If you left click for reload, is it faster than the 1.07 shit version? or are you still stuck in one place? I guess either way you could fire a shot, and then run someplace safer to reload, but that doesn't explain how on earth the patch differs for the both of us.
It might have something to do with the Data file that I save from the 1.08 patch, and that coupled with what remains of the "hodgepodge" of the merged patches in my method might result in different animations.
If the manual reload is bothering you I'd suggest copying your save files to a safe location and trying my install method. Couldn't hurt to try, although it would be a pain in the ass if you're already up and running.
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si110
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Location: Hobart,Australia.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Nov 2006 04:30 Post subject: |
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I am at level 10,(restarted game) I can get enough shots into a heavy bandit as he is running towards me to kill him, so reloads are in no way slow, left click mouse, he reaches behind for quarrel, crosshair comes up,left click to shoot. I can move while reloading, not run though. Its just a game but to be quite honest, I prefer it the way its happening,even if its some weird glitch with my game, far as Im concerned you shouldnt be able to recock a crossbow while running. I dont think thats even possible with medieval crossbows??
BF3 = Stompya
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Nov 2006 04:53 Post subject: |
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| si110 wrote: | | I am at level 10,(restarted game) I can get enough shots into a heavy bandit as he is running towards me to kill him, so reloads are in no way slow, left click mouse, he reaches behind for quarrel, crosshair comes up,left click to shoot. I can move while reloading, not run though. Its just a game but to be quite honest, I prefer it the way its happening,even if its some weird glitch with my game, far as Im concerned you shouldnt be able to recock a crossbow while running. I dont think thats even possible with medieval crossbows?? |
I"m happy that it's all working out for you. With the release of Gothic 3, I've witnessed one of the most unstable games ever released to the general public. As long as we've both achieved satisfactory results (regarding the crossbow) then i'm glad.
Have fun, and tell me what faction you end up joining.
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Nov 2006 14:23 Post subject: |
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Keep the shit off the forums guys, 2 temp bans for silly little flames that could have been avoided.
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si110
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Location: Hobart,Australia.
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| Posted: Mon, 6th Nov 2006 05:42 Post subject: |
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| si110 wrote: | Dont know if it helps or not, but I dont get the crashes.I do have 2 gb of ram, but lots of people with 2 are getting it, I have my pagefile set at 2500 min 2500 max, maybe that has something to do with it?
And its good to see you 2 sort things.  |
I have 2.5 gigs A.T.M., but am bringing it up to 3 in a little bit due to a free 512 stick.. I still occasionally get the save-file memory bug, but it has been reduced by lowering the resource cache from High to Medium. I know it sounds outlandish, but trust me, it's caused little to no hit on my performance, while reducing the occurance of the memory bug by about 5 fold estimate.
It just annoys me that this game is so fun to play, while suffering from shit codeing. Honestly , with the amount of Ram we both have we should be able to not only increase the resource cache, but tweak it in the Ini. for an even larger performance boost.
I'll try your recommendation later tonight if I get the chance as i'm busy at the moment.
tnx
J2B
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