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 Posted: Wed, 1st Nov 2006 11:29 Post subject: [Wii] "An Overglocked Gamecube with a DVD Player" |
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Interesting read here
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061031-8112.html
thought the 'running on a gamecube' E3 rumours were false but it seems theres probably more truth to it than I thought. Diaapointing really, thought they packed a punch, maybe not a 360 or ps3 punch but I'd expect more than an "Overclocked gamecube with a dvd drive"
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Supino
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Nov 2006 11:36 Post subject: |
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In my opinion cpu power and Wii isn't an issue. Just as with the DS.
What is more concerning is how well received the new controller will be..
It's as simple as this:
Wii = consol version of DS
PS3 = consol version of PSP
now what device do you enjoy the most today?
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Surray
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Nov 2006 11:37 Post subject: |
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all these spec wars really suck, who cares about that, the games look good enough and the wii has other aspects that make up for the less powerful hardware.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Nov 2006 13:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2006 23:17 Post subject: |
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but why is the console itself so expensive? its more than the x0 core.
also heard some being critical to the wii contollers. that it changes depending on how close/far you are from the tv, and that the reaction time is a bit slow.
dont know if this is true yet of course. soon its out and we will know more.
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| Posted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2006 23:34 Post subject: |
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Technical bullet points aside, the Broadway may be a supercharged Gekko... but its the ATI graphics core that puts it above Gamecube, Xbox and PS2.
Like others have mentioned... F*** Graphics. Give me INNOVATION!!! GIVE ME GAMEPLAY!!!!!
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upstart_69
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2006 06:17 Post subject: |
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It is as simple as this: if there is great games for the system it will dominate just like the DS has. Nobody(that matters, ie the mainstream consumer) pays for a gaming system's hardware, just like the lackluster sales of the PSP demonstrate. Everyone thought the DS was a gimmick and underpowered joke when it first arrived too. And now who wouldn't kill to be the one who thought that joke system up?
As far as Nintendo always being for kids and silly, well isn't that a response to gaming in general? I mean if you take that approach to a thing, then why play games at all? There will always be people who say it is a childish activity and a waste of time. In that case I don't really think there would be any difference in reaction to a gamer sitting dormant in a couch for 2-3 hrs holding a gamepad and staring vacantly into a tv as opposed to a gamer waving around a different-shaped controller. Except maybe, just maybe, in the latter case there might be some interest since it wouldn't resemble video gaming in the traditional sense.
Anyways I guess I just don't "get" the older gamer thing. I am nearly 30 and to tell the truth, all these games with flashy graphics, bouncing virtual boobs, and same old run 'n gun gameplay are boring me to death. If that is what an 'adult' game should be like, count me out. I'd much rather play something fun.
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2006 10:03 Post subject: |
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N64 and Gamecube have always had a minority share of the market. I expect it will be the same with the Wii.
Theres about as much chance of the Wii 'dominating' as there is of Sega getting back in the console war.
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nerrd
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2006 17:22 Post subject: |
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Great reply upstart_69, I'm with you all the way. I always thought that people who call an xbox or ps2 a more "mature" console sound rather silly.
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2006 17:59 Post subject: |
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is there NO "normal" controller planed ??
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upstart_69
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2006 19:27 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | N64 and Gamecube have always had a minority share of the market. I expect it will be the same with the Wii.
Theres about as much chance of the Wii 'dominating' as there is of Sega getting back in the console war. |
That's not what is coming from countless industry insiders' mouthes about the system, do you know more than them perhaps? Besides you missed my point completely, not surprisingly. My point was, it is futile speculating how well a console will do based on hardware specs. Only hardcore gamers dwell on specs. It is the breadth and quality of games produced over the console's lifespan that will determine its success. So if there are great games(especially by 3rd parties) it will do well. If not, it will do poorly. I am not a psychic so I won't predict whether 3rd parties will keep up with the system or not, however from the launch it looks very positive.
And in this case if Nintendo even regains a small chunk of market share from the giants, the company will in fact be 'dominating.' The other companies are putting so much resources on the line they cannot afford to lose any. They are in a much bigger gamble with their high priced systems than Nintendo is. Afterall, last generation Nintendo was a close second in profits from the home system, even coming in dead last in system sales. Not too shabby for being the 'loser' eh?
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Nov 2006 20:37 Post subject: |
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Just to correct the thread title - the system doesnt have a dvd player.
Also if you've ever seen comparison shots, the system is not an overclocked GC.
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Cheez-It
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Nov 2006 23:50 Post subject: |
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1.) Regarding controller issues: Wired, IGN, and many others have pointed out that it was quite comfortable to play 10 hours of Zelda with it. In fact, Wired pointed out that it was MORE comfortable, as you don't need to have your arms stuck in front on the controller, you can have your left hand relaxing (while still controlling perfectly) and right hand on your leg.
2.) Regarding Power: Reduced cost of system. Reduced power drain (More cost). Graphics are at the point where there won't be a huge difference for MOST people. Consoles have done fine against PC's which have been extraordinarilly more powerful, more so than the difference between Wii and PS3 for ages... Not many people have an HD. Of those, there aren't a huge amount of gamers. Smaller market. Insert many other arguments here... Ultimately, if you NEED the best graphics, DONT GET A WII. I sincerely DOUBT you will have an iota of an impact on Nintendo's success or failure.
3.) Regarding Player Ages: I think saying Nintendo is going for kids is a HUGE mistake. Yes, Kids will be a big market... But how about women? Married men who sort of enjoy games but don't have the time or money to justify paying the 600$ for a system, 2000$+ for a decent HDTV, etc.. I have heard many women excited to play the new Wii, including my fiance who wanted me to preorder it. Her last console? An NES. I think Nintendo could do huge things in getting non-gamers into the fray, and I am quite excited about it.
Personally...
If I had unlimited funds and time, I would buy them all.
Seeing that I don't have an HDTV, or a shitload of money to spend on a hobby, the Wii is perfect for me. The fact that my fiance will help pay and play it with me is even better!
Lastly. To any graphics whores. Shut the FUCK up. You are the same dipshits arguing that your shitty ass consoles were fine despite their shitty ass power compared to a computer. You define hypocritical.
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Mike.83
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| Posted: Mon, 6th Nov 2006 01:03 Post subject: |
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Having got a DS a few months ago, I now can't wait for teh Wii, Nintendo just make the coolest games.
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| Posted: Mon, 6th Nov 2006 02:43 Post subject: |
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I just got a DS too. I gotta say... I honestly havent had as much fun with these so-called "next-gen" games we all pay 50 or even 60 dollars for as I have with 15 or even 20 dollar DS titles. Having played the DS finally I am looking forward to the Wii more than ever.
I have one of these on the way too. ;D
http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-ds-dsxt4.html
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| Posted: Mon, 6th Nov 2006 14:27 Post subject: |
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| Boognish wrote: | I just got a DS too. I gotta say... I honestly havent had as much fun with these so-called "next-gen" games we all pay 50 or even 60 dollars for as I have with 15 or even 20 dollar DS titles. Having played the DS finally I am looking forward to the Wii more than ever.
I have one of these on the way too. ;D
http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-ds-dsxt4.html |
I second that! I got DS with M3 SD adapter , and I started playing CASTLEVANIA DOS , and Castlevania games from GBA ..and them,, I AM HOOKED!
I havent go so much fun since I played PIRATES ! and ELITE! on old C64, ( I am 30 y. old).
I dump all games like Oblivion , NFS , Scarface because of this ..its just..MORE FUN!
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TiHKAL
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Nov 2006 18:35 Post subject: Wii |
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Is it even possible to pre-order one of these or did I wait too long? 
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upstart_69
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Nov 2006 19:47 Post subject: |
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Too long to pre-order. Personally, I plan to stop by every target, best buy, toys'r'us, walmart, and circuit city on midnight/sunday morning to try to snatch one up, though. I figure the chances of finding one are decent enough.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Nov 2006 03:56 Post subject: |
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| Evil Undead Dolphin wrote: | | Boognish wrote: | I just got a DS too. I gotta say... I honestly havent had as much fun with these so-called "next-gen" games we all pay 50 or even 60 dollars for as I have with 15 or even 20 dollar DS titles. Having played the DS finally I am looking forward to the Wii more than ever.
I have one of these on the way too. ;D
http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-ds-dsxt4.html |
I second that! I got DS with M3 SD adapter , and I started playing CASTLEVANIA DOS , and Castlevania games from GBA ..and them,, I AM HOOKED!
I havent go so much fun since I played PIRATES ! and ELITE! on old C64, ( I am 30 y. old).
I dump all games like Oblivion , NFS , Scarface because of this ..its just..MORE FUN! |
Yay ! I played all the Castlevania's on GBA, then all again on GBA SP & now am doing them on DS  .
Am currently experiencing Sexy Liquid Eplosions in my underpants over latest Portrait of Ruin videos - salivate, salivate
Me loves my precioussss Nintendo 
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