Neverwinter Nights 2
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 13:54    Post subject:
Leishar wrote:
Fallout is can be finished without firing a single weapon except for the last boss...


Depends on - not fallout 2...unless you manage to get pass the rats in the beginning Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 13:58    Post subject:
Hey, correct my quote! Razz I edited my post because of that nasty sentence Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 13:59    Post subject:
hehe Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 14:01    Post subject:
What class are you going to play? any ideas? I was aiming for cleric or a mage type, but since they removed timestop i'll probably go cleric... And in the future, blackguard. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 14:01    Post subject:
Dunno yet - only time will tell. I will proberbly go through them all - and force my daughter to play it too! lol Very Happy


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Leishar




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 14:02    Post subject:
poor child... instead of playing sims 2 - pets she'll have to save neverwinter from an awful evil Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 14:03    Post subject:
Anthirs wrote:
csebal wrote:
I wrote about three versions of a page long post arguing with your opinion about PnP DnD. But decided to go for the short version instead. You are wrong, as you forget the first rule of PnP RPG: You are only limited by your own imagination. If you can't see past the rules, fine. I only use the rules as tools to shape my game. For that, DnD is an excellent toolbox.


I dont fully agree. I know what you mean about the tool part - but 99% of the creatures in their "monster manual" has crappy background and their behaviour is abit like "attacks at sight"'


Again you stick to what is written in a book. The background is - again - just a guideline for the DM, and the behavior is based on the DM as well. I just don't get it: You look at a book, and tell me it is a boring game, because the book says Orcs attack you on sight.

I would like to stress again, that the best part of playing PnP RPG is that we are not bound by the rules. I can make an orc nation if i want, where everyone is fairly friendly unless you piss them off ofc, but hey.. a pissed off human and orc arent that different.

They provide the tools in the form of books. Give some tips, provide ideas and rules you can use in various circumstances. It is the DMs task to take these tools, and make an enjoyable game with them.

Once you start to look past the text and start to use the game how it was intended to use, it'll get a lot less restricting or boring. If you are the kind unable to break out of the box, if you can't ignore the rules, if they are written in a book for you, then i agree.. DnD quickly gets dull and boring.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 14:09    Post subject:
You seem unable to get my point. I've got 26 years of experience from p&p rpg's so I do know what your talking about. But the d&d is just really dull and sterile compared to like warhammer. Anyway, lets agree that we don't agree and if you wan't to continue this discussion I suggest we do it somewhere else than in the nwn2 thread Smile


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Leishar




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 14:10    Post subject:
The best thing about P&P are the dialogs... I can actually say what I really want to say! Very Happy

Edit: Warlock class in NWN2. http://www.nwn2wiki.org/Warlock
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csebal




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 14:55    Post subject:
Anthirs wrote:
You seem unable to get my point. I've got 26 years of experience from p&p rpg's so I do know what your talking about. But the d&d is just really dull and sterile compared to like warhammer. Anyway, lets agree that we don't agree and if you wan't to continue this discussion I suggest we do it somewhere else than in the nwn2 thread Smile


Agreed, let's stay on topic, though i agree with you that i don't seem to get your point. With 26 years of p&p rpg experience, you should know better than to call any system sterile. It is as good as you make it.

Bah.. im starting again. ignore that last one.

On NWN2, I think i'll go for a magic user type first. Warlock seems to be an interesting choice for example, but it is more probable that i'll go for the big classic, the wizard. Probably some specialist.

What i will not try until i've beaten the game at least once is the drow. I just don't feel like playing drizzt do'urrden anymore Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 15:03    Post subject:
What about multiplayer? High expectations? What kind of server? Roleplay, tavern, pvp, etc?

I'll go for a strict roleplay server
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csebal




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 15:30    Post subject:
Leishar wrote:
What about multiplayer? High expectations? What kind of server? Roleplay, tavern, pvp, etc?

I'll go for a strict roleplay server


I'll stick to PnP RPG for multiplayer. But i'm hoping for a KOTORish storyline for the SP campaign. One that would make me go 'just one more minute' Smile
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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 15:42    Post subject:
csebal wrote:
Leishar wrote:
What about multiplayer? High expectations? What kind of server? Roleplay, tavern, pvp, etc?

I'll go for a strict roleplay server


I'll stick to PnP RPG for multiplayer. But i'm hoping for a KOTORish storyline for the SP campaign. One that would make me go 'just one more minute' Smile

Same here...KOTOR 1 had one of the best stories ever! The twists were awesome!
Hope NWN 2 has a decent storyline, a more "personal" story would be a nice change form all the "save the world" stories we've had so far...but I doubt its gonna be the way I want it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 16:07    Post subject:
crossmr wrote:
Quote:
the thing that bugs me in d&d series are that it takes to bloody long to be able to get a good hitrate, and a good spellrate. Compared to games where you use mana as ammo (point here is that you are quite dependent on items)

im currently playing a half-elf wizard and is having a blast even though i dont have that many usefull spells that i can spam (well 4burst of fire and 2 fireballs and 1-2 acid arrow) but its still fun! u get a nice tingling sensation when u open a door and some mobs starts to run at you and you let one fireball explode infront of them causing the lot to die in a fiery death!


That is because D&D was developed as a roleplaying system, not a hack n slash diablo like clone. If you want to play a diablo clone go play one. I don't bitch that I can't drive a car in Neverwinter nights I just go play GTA.

[start sarcasm]
Well Duh!
Thank you for pointing out the plain obvious, it is 2 different games using 2 different set of rules. Yea i think i got that....
I just thought that EVERY game with rpg in it should be like d2 otherwise its not an rpg!!
[end sarcasm]

It wasnt meant to be a "bitch fit" just a observation, i like the way nwn is played, i just think it is slow to exp and its abit annoying to rest every other step.(thank tfsm for scrolls though)But i still play it because it is a good game, just takes a little while to get used to it

I´m fairly sure that you can drive a car in nwn, just need to mod it correctly ^^ (shapeshift in too hummer, 4d20+20 Vs humanoids & animals - 40 speed if driving on sidewalk)

ive played too much d2 in my times, its fun for awhile but then it gets extremely boring due to low rpg context, And almost every other character looks alike.

Muppet wrote:


Aces High, if you've got both expansions and you want a hack and slash style experience, try the PRC. About 8 new base classes, 60-70 prestige classes - some pure RP, but others like the Psychic Warrior give you the whole Diablo style experience.


Yea im going to give that a try later, can´t for now as my discs are locked in the attic and my pick lock skills are to low. And nwn2 is going to be released soon so i doubt that i´ll go to the attic anytime soon to remove the lock. (well i have to anyways need to get the winter tires out of the attic so its "safe to drive around")

Nwn2 is going to be great! (i hope)
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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 16:14    Post subject:
Aces High wrote:
Yea im going to give that a try later, can´t for now as my discs are locked in the attic and my pick lock skills are to low. And nwn2 is going to be released soon so i doubt that i´ll go to the attic anytime soon to remove the lock. (well i have to anyways need to get the winter tires out of the attic so its "safe to drive around")

You seriously need to cut down on your rpgs. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 14:55    Post subject:
PC Format UK 91 / 100
Looks like we have a winner! Very Happy
Finally, a good rpg...


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 15:04    Post subject:
hot dog we have a wiener
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 15:46    Post subject:
I don't need some stinky magazine reviews bought by the publisher to know this game is going to rock. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 16:05    Post subject:
is the combat turn based like KOTOR, dice throwing+stats to decide outcome?


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 16:08    Post subject:
pumbertot1 wrote:
is the combat turn based like KOTOR, dice throwing+stats to decide outcome?

Yup! Actually KOTOR was based on the NWN system... Wink


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 16:13    Post subject:
BaronOfHell wrote:
pumbertot1 wrote:
is the combat turn based like KOTOR, dice throwing+stats to decide outcome?

Yup! Actually KOTOR was based on the NWN system... Wink


not usually my cup of tea, i used to avoid those sort of games. but after KOTOR, having loved the game and this looks damn good then yes thatll do nicely.
are the conversations in this going to be deep?is the game world quite large?
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gold24




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006 00:46    Post subject: the winner
just watch this screens can any rpg out there match this graphics it looks truly amazing
the true winner for rpg this year for sure
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006 08:00    Post subject:
release date ?
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006 10:05    Post subject:
31st October
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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 11:43    Post subject:
Read that its already out on Direct2Drive...


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 12:03    Post subject:
BaronOfHell wrote:
Read that its already out on Direct2Drive...


link????
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strm




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 12:06    Post subject:
you can pre-order and preload the game from D2D, but you'll still have to wait till release date I guess


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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 12:17    Post subject:
zerstorer wrote:
BaronOfHell wrote:
Read that its already out on Direct2Drive...


link????

http://www.direct2drive.com/1431/product/Buy-Neverwinter-Nights-2-(Pre-Order-and-Pre-Load)-Download
Like strm said, think you'll have to wait till 31st to play it.

EDIT: Is it against the rules to post this link?


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 12:29    Post subject:
only availabe to stinking americans :/
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 14:14    Post subject:
kenny64 wrote:
only availabe to stinking americans :/


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