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 Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 22:52 Post subject: |
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You get ancient knowledge by reading books and stuff. LIke in the camp where you start, there is a stance with a book or something. Itson the second floor of some building (i think its near the blacksmith).
Ive got a question, how the hell do you use up your skill points (the one you earn everytime you level) I have 30 of them but cant figure out how to use it, am i supposed to talk to someone?
Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 22:58 Post subject: |
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| Krest wrote: | You get ancient knowledge by reading books and stuff. LIke in the camp where you start, there is a stance with a book or something. Itson the second floor of some building (i think its near the blacksmith).
Ive got a question, how the hell do you use up your skill points (the one you earn everytime you level) I have 30 of them but cant figure out how to use it, am i supposed to talk to someone? |
yeah, certain people have options like "can you teach me how to fight?"
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 23:13 Post subject: |
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ok so, does anybody know where i can find somone to teach me some spells?
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 23:40 Post subject: |
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this game is just increadible, especially after tweaking the .ini and maxing out the view distance
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 23:43 Post subject: |
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| xxxMrGreenxxx wrote: | | ok so, does anybody know where i can find somone to teach me some spells? |
right b4 teh dildo town ther is a hunter if i rember right right to his huse is a statu u can pray there and ask it to give u magic poweres and spells.
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 23:44 Post subject: |
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tehy found the reson for teh freezing:
Readme point 10:
10. Streaming stalls
On some systems the streaming from hard drive can cause framerate drops and game stalls. Defragmenting your hard drive and lowering the texture quality settings in the game reduces these effects.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 23:48 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 00:01 Post subject: |
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I dont know if it was joowod or not but the game sucks as of right now. Out-of-box Oblivion>>>>>This shit. I hope they'll patch it real soon because i really do like the world, it seems so interesting, but the combat just frustrates me so much, its just not fun. The quests seem good and the characters feel alive. I dont know how it got through with bugs like that. If they spent some more time, this game would easly got above 9, but as of right now for its sadly 3/10. I just dont understand, a game where the combat is one of the main attractions, is so undeveloped.
Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 01:00 Post subject: |
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i installed this, patched, used crack and then when i tried to play it... it gave me the update screen.. even tho i had updated. I kept clicking it off.. then eventually game started up... but after it gave me an error in windows.
anything im doing wrong? it seems as if the crack didnt think the game was updated
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Surray
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 01:12 Post subject: |
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| Krest wrote: | | I just dont understand, a game where the combat is one of the main attractions, is so undeveloped. |
the important thing for an rpg like this is the big world, quests, a good story and freedom, and gothic 3 has that. it may not be as polished as oblivion but it's a good game. if you can't take the combat then just don't play this game and wait for dark messiah or something. your loss.
in the end the combat in an rpg is just a means to an end, not the focus.
I should probably also mention that the game didn't crash for me even once in about 20 hours now.
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Flark
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 01:15 Post subject: |
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Just cancelled my pre-order after testing the pirated version, i enjoyed Oblivion but i just can't get into this game with all the bugs, ill just pick it up when its cheaper and hopefully patched.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 01:40 Post subject: |
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Oh yeah right its all about the quests /sarcasm. Then why the fuck are we given hunderds of weapons, just to look at them and trade them for gold? (even that they didnt get right, i sold all the weapons i found and the freakign merchant didnt even give me the money, he just took my weapons). Cmon dude open your eyes, the combat is bugged. Somehow whenever i attack the freaking monsters, they just move back, there is not animation or anything, he just moves away from my swings, my character probably has some kind of force field around him, too bad it doesnt help against freaking boars.
Sure its an rpg and the quests do matter, but its also an action rpg where freaking combat matters. How do you get better stuff and gold in most rpgs, killing stuff ofcourse. Yeah sure you can trade and stuff, but not why play sim games if you want just trade and talk to npcs.
Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 02:43 Post subject: |
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What the FUCK is this installshield program update CRAP that gothic installs, now the shit runs at startup and doesn't seem to be any uninstall for it!
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 03:18 Post subject: |
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Ehh, why was my post deleted?
It could've helped a lot of people with gfx-issues.
I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 03:42 Post subject: |
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Blasar you should really download the game, dont listen to '
]what we say. Fanboys say the game is perfect,while others say its really bugged (im one of those people). Download it and try it for yourself. I do not recommend buying it because you might regret it. The game has a lot of potential, and if they fix combat, stunlock, and other glaring bugs it will be an awsome game.
Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 04:02 Post subject: |
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| Mumblingidiot wrote: | I know that gameplay and story is 90% of game, but how can I fucking play if i don't see shit?
People used to diss Oblivion for this and that but if this is supposed to be better, engine and all other shitwise there has got to be something wrong with my eyes.
Because this is crap. It looks shittier than game allmost one year older. Fuckit, it looks as bad as games that came in year 2000. I had mods in Morrowind that had better viewdistance than this.
It's my machine you say? Then how come I can run for instance, oblivion in max? (Well.. allmost maxed)
If the case is that I have too old hardware, the reason is in developers, in their lazyness in OPTIMIZING this fucking piece of shit.
Now I do remember why I used to dl games before I buy them. So fuck you Piranha. I knew that I can't get a good game from company that ends it's name in GmBh.
I'm pissed off because I payed full price of this piece of shit. So fuck you and I hope you choke on it.
The problem is'nt the boars and random crashes to fucking oblivion, or the floating rocks and shit in the wild.
It's the
<snip>
And no, I cannot put it to high because it turns in to slideshow. |
Amen for that post!
 The most offenssive thing you can say to a moronic fanboy about a bad game engine is it's not optimized. Game engines are like a taboo for them. "It's your crappy pc", "You have a shit computer", "Don't blame the developer for the crappy pc you have" are common things they'll say blindly. So what if the game looks like a crappy 2003 game (on max)? It's my PC's fault for not running it, even if it runs much better looking and much more demanding games quite well! It's my PC's fault for idiot developers who have no idea how to optimize code, who release a product in beta stage (and by the screens shots I've seen on a few forums, one might even say it's in alpha) because they (or the publisher, but that is irrelevant) set a silly dead-line without thinking ahead... It's all my crappy PC's fault, right?! Right, Epsilon? |
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Baleur
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 04:06 Post subject: |
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WOW everyone here hates the game 
1. Its way better optimized than Oblivion ever was and ever will be, it runs superb. Oblivion doesnt. Think the graphics suck? Try wearing glasses.... The trees are identical to oblivions, the textures are PARALLAX MAPPED, which was supposed to be the case in Oblivion as well, but the developers engine was, shock  , lazy and unoptimized 
Look straight down at a street in the n00bcity, look at the wooden textures on the houses. If you honestly dont think they are the best looking textures and shaders in any game so far, you are probably running in SM2. Period.
Dont let your childish hate for the game and developers interfere with your sensory perception.
2. The combat system, try using tactics instead of just clickin away? Hold the parry button and strafe while throwing quick blows, vary it a bit.
3. The view distance is just fine. The unlimited viewdistance in Oblivion just made the world seem tiny, and in a way unrealistic. It was pathetic to be able to see the imperial city from Bruma. Or hey what do i know, maby the planet Cyrodil is based on is FLAT?
I dont care if you live on Mount Everest, you cant see London from there no matter how big a telescope you use.
4. If you dont like it, dont play nor post here, wont get you anywhere. It wont get you a great patch fixing everything you hate, and it wont get you any peace of mind. Leave the thread to ppl who enjoy the game so we can discuss INGAME stuff. Mmk?
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 04:10 Post subject: |
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| Baleur wrote: | | 1. Its way better optimized than Oblivion ever was and ever will be, it runs superb. Oblivion doesnt. Think the graphics suck? Try wearing glasses.... The trees are identical to oblivions, the textures are PARALLAX MAPPED, which was supposed to be the case in Oblivion as well, but the developers engine was, shock , lazy and unoptimized |
Never said Oblivion was optimised that well, or that it look that good... It was ok, but nothing spectacular. It was a general rant on idiot fanboys. |
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Baleur
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 04:19 Post subject: |
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Ok beleur as soon as you make a video where you tacticly beat two boars at the same time using swords, ill aknowledge that the combat in this game is better than oblivion. I just do not understand how you cant deny that its fucked up (at least vs animals). I dont think developers had in mind boars that once you are hit, increase their attack by 200% and just rip you appart while you cant do jack. Yes you can just quickly hit your attack button hopping that it wont attack you, but once they do you are fucked. Yes you can beat them using bows (thats what i was doing all the time), but what if you are a pure melee, isnt whats rpgs all about, choices?
Not sure about perfermance as i do not have the greatest pc in the world, and it is pretty choppy on medium. Oblivion on the other hand was pretty smooth on high. It's all just my opinion, you cant tell me what and where i can post.
Edit: Tell me how come you can take several orcs at once and defeat all of them even if they hit you multiple times, but you die from a lurker. Orcs are supposed to be (in Gothic) hardcore warriors, masters of weapons. Yet, a freaking unnamred boar owns you. As i said, i really wanna like the game, i think it could be GOTY, but its so fuckin upolished it just kills and frustrates all the fun out of me.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 04:41 Post subject: |
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Baleur=Archetypal fanboy
Go post on the Jowood orum if you have such a hardon for this POS.
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si110
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 05:10 Post subject: |
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Boars are easy, just run away and let someone else take them on. And I for one wouldnt like to take my chances with a wild boar with just a sword, I have spent time hunting them, crossbow is the least I would use, .50 cal rifle would be my preference.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 05:10 Post subject: |
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| Krest wrote: | Ok beleur as soon as you make a video where you tacticly beat two boars at the same time using swords, ill aknowledge that the combat in this game is better than oblivion. I just do not understand how you cant deny that its fucked up (at least vs animals). I dont think developers had in mind boars that once you are hit, increase their attack by 200% and just rip you appart while you cant do jack. Yes you can just quickly hit your attack button hopping that it wont attack you, but once they do you are fucked. Yes you can beat them using bows (thats what i was doing all the time), but what if you are a pure melee, isnt whats rpgs all about, choices?
Not sure about perfermance as i do not have the greatest pc in the world, and it is pretty choppy on medium. Oblivion on the other hand was pretty smooth on high. It's all just my opinion, you cant tell me what and where i can post.
Edit: Tell me how come you can take several orcs at once and defeat all of them even if they hit you multiple times, but you die from a lurker. Orcs are supposed to be (in Gothic) hardcore warriors, masters of weapons. Yet, a freaking unnamred boar owns you. As i said, i really wanna like the game, i think it could be GOTY, but its so fuckin upolished it just kills and frustrates all the fun out of me. |
First, try playing on normal or hard rather then easy. Then the NPC's will be more difficult, the animal difficulty seems unaffected. Secondly, you can beat a boar easily with long range melee weapons.
Since when has it been a law of RPG's that every monster should be beatable with a sword. Yep RPG's are about choices, either just use a sword and die against boars, or adapt and don't.
Maybe you should try using a weapon other then the flaming sword. Because obviously that weapon was left in by accident, so I don't use it. Hence i've never really had a problem with boars using my halberd.
The streaming nature of the engine is unoptimised, but when it's not loading from the hard-drive it actually runs rather well.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 05:27 Post subject: |
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First of all i havent touched the difficulty settings, its on normal since i installed it. Second, yes i do use the bow to kill them, which i dont like because id prefer using the sword. Third i havent even found that stupid flaming sword, im using some poison enchanted blade. I do know that im not supposed to kill everyone at a low level, thats why im not crying about elite orcs handing my ass to me, i know they are much stronger and i accept it. I havent even left the starting grounds, im just walking around and checking what i can find. Shit, you are talking like you freaking know how im playing. It might work for you, but not me, and if you look at the officials boars, MANY MANY others hate the same thing.
And why are you refering to real life si110? I guess you use the same gun killing orcs, oh thats right its a game, a fantasy where everything is possible (even super fast and super strong boars).
sYn, only a real fanboy would say its better than oblivion as of right now. Even though i hated oblivion because of the dumb leveling sistem, still it was polished, ran very well and was pretty fun at the begging. But after a while it just felt the same, i didnt feel like you were getting any stronger.
And as i said, it lags but i understand my system is not the best, even though i could run oblivion on high and here everything is on low and still im lagging hardcore.
Sig too big. -Nothing is too big for Fedor. Expect a nasty armbar.
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 05:31 Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong, I bought the game on release and I love it (not that I am playing it.. im waiting for patches before I even bother..).. I really think a whole lot of the game kills oblivion.. but the little things, the things that oblivion done so well, things that I was promised to be even better in G3.. just.. are not there.. Well not that I have seen so far!
The towns don't feel alive.. they feel as static as any other none expansive RPG since the 80s.. I mean, am i missing something? Have the towns I've been too (only the first 2) been too small? Or is it true to the whole game.. where is my living town?!
As for the fighting system, I do think its better than oblivion.. but it needs work.. some of the balancing is just wrong.
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