Gothic 3
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 18:03    Post subject:
Barz00n wrote:
someone said he tricket tages with locking vcd and using 1x speed.
could u like tell me what version or image u used ? ST0n3D or the 1st version (Gothic 3_mit_OST_blabla)?
please tell me cuz i actualy downloaded the 1st image and im pretty pissed @ this BS.


ST0n3D or the 1st version (Gothic 3_mit_OST_blabla) is the same image but ST0n3D remade the german Alcohol image in Vcd8 and they added the VC6 file and renamed it to VC4
(more info how to convert the Mds image here http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27298&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1230 )

and yes my Indian name is Someone Laughing


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Barz00n




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 18:08    Post subject:
so.....the 1st version will like never ever work will it?god dammit il have to download the ston3d now?ffs.....if u know how you could save me from downlaoding 3 days, please tell me, im a Gothic fan (just dont got enough... fund to buy it , not working nor legal of age to do so Razz)
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 18:12    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
Check out this review, it's 100% accurate in my opinion.

http://www.honestgamers.com/systems/content.php?console_id=13&review_id=5166&game_id=22368

O come on. How is that accurate if no mention is made of the bugs. I'm sure the game is worth 9/10 after patches, but it's not even worth a 7 at this point.

I advise again to everyone who's trying to get this to work, just wait for the US version. It'll be Securom and hopefully complete. Don't ruin the game by playing the beta. Just be patient.


Did you read it? He's does mention the bugs.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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A-A




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 18:14    Post subject:
Sure he does, but with that it should no fucking way get 9/10...

Fanboyism is bad!
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 18:17    Post subject:
"There's still a small degree of bugs to work out of the game like poor AI pathfinding that sends NPCs walking into -- and sometimes through -- walls and the odd graphical hiccup, but with the last patch released fixing the major bugs like the constant crashing, I have faith that sooner rather than later, this will be remedied too."


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Praetori




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 18:19    Post subject:
Wow, and so many of you were looking forward to it.

No offense, but why are German made international games usually so buggy?
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Barz00n




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 18:42    Post subject:
ok, i realy realy need soem help Smile) i have the german version by FZR seeker of darkness which is an image called gothic3.mdf ! ive read some tutorial of how to somehow clone it using alcohol but i cant! could some like explain all of this liek to a 5 year old? id be foreveer grateful Smile
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accountbroken
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 18:51    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
Check out this review, it's 100% accurate in my opinion.

http://www.honestgamers.com/systems/content.php?console_id=13&review_id=5166&game_id=22368

O come on. How is that accurate if no mention is made of the bugs. I'm sure the game is worth 9/10 after patches, but it's not even worth a 7 at this point.

I advise again to everyone who's trying to get this to work, just wait for the US version. It'll be Securom and hopefully complete. Don't ruin the game by playing the beta. Just be patient.


Hey Mister_s, here at nforce as well Wink U'd better wait if ur penis grows 'cause the USA release won't have securom. Wishfull thinking Rolling Eyes Play the game like this or u won't be able to play it for a loooong time 'cause razor and rld ain't working on this one atm. Just grab it from the usenet as normally Laughing


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 18:57    Post subject:
A-A wrote:
Sure he does, but with that it should no fucking way get 9/10...

Fanboyism is bad!


If he was a fanboy he would deny the bugs existed. The fact is none of the bugs i've encountered are really that detrimental to the game. I'm not sure if you guys are all playing the pre-patched version or there is something going on with the copy protection that makes it worse on the warez version but it's nowhere near as bad as you describe.

The only bugs i've encountered so far are some minor graphical ones, such as landscape tearing and things poking through other objects and the wildlife being uber. Although this can be gotten past with the right weapons.

I expect the pathfinding issues are there aswell because there were issues in the previous two games although i've never encountered them in Gothic 3.

Maybe it has something to do with expectations. Having played the previous two games I was expecting it to be rough around the edges but fundamentally a fantastic RPG. I'm not sure what others were expecting. Maybe something completely different from the previous games.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 19:16    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
If he was a fanboy he would deny the bugs existed. The fact is none of the bugs i've encountered are really that detrimental to the game. I'm not sure if you guys are all playing the pre-patched version or there is something going on with the copy protection that makes it worse on the warez version but it's nowhere near as bad as you describe.

The only bugs i've encountered so far are some minor graphical ones, such as landscape tearing and things poking through other objects and the wildlife being uber. Although this can be gotten past with the right weapons.

I expect the pathfinding issues are there aswell because there were issues in the previous two games although i've never encountered them in Gothic 3.

Maybe it has something to do with expectations. Having played the previous two games I was expecting it to be rough around the edges but fundamentally a fantastic RPG. I'm not sure what others were expecting. Maybe something completely different from the previous games.

Well, looks like most of em prefer a more polished games over a game that actually delivers. In other words, they were looking for another Oblivion. Rolling Eyes
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Barz00n




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 19:34    Post subject:
guys i just converted my gothic image to an image called gothic3.vc4 . what do i do next?im so noobish amagad
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 19:41    Post subject:
I've read the bugreports on Jowood's forum and after reading through them the only really critical bug would be the savegame memory bug, though the game has quite a few other bugs that should hopefully be fixed in the next patch. (From what I read it's confirmed that they are working on it, seems to be some AI improvements as well as regular fixes)

EDIT: Patch information.
http://www.eurogamer.de/article.php?article_id=68679
(Third text block, don't know that much german but I kinda understand it)


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immylatus




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 19:49    Post subject:
It's cool because by the time this game actually gets cracked (or is released in the U S A!!!) it might actually be playable through patches. Again, europe is just the beta grounds!!


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Bart1983




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 19:57    Post subject:
immylatus wrote:
It's cool because by the time this game actually gets cracked (or is released in the U S A!!!) it might actually be playable through patches. Again, europe is just the beta grounds!!


What was the release dat in the US 24-11?
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greymann
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 19:57    Post subject:
BaronOfHell wrote:

Well, looks like most of em prefer a more polished games over a game that actually delivers. In other words, they were looking for another Oblivion. Rolling Eyes


God, like we should have to choose one or the other. Shouldn't every game be polished before release? Sounds like the graphics verses gameplay arguement. Why not demand it all?
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 20:06    Post subject:
greymann wrote:
BaronOfHell wrote:

Well, looks like most of em prefer a more polished games over a game that actually delivers. In other words, they were looking for another Oblivion. Rolling Eyes


God, like we should have to choose one or the other. Shouldn't every game be polished before release? Sounds like the graphics verses gameplay arguement. Why not demand it all?


I think what he's trying to say is, enjoy the game for what it is, not what it sin't. Sure, everyone wants a game with not only great gameplay, but also perfect stability. But sometimes you have to look past minor faults and see the big picture.

How did people react to the original Hidden and dangerous? That was buggy yet also a classic. This is the same.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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zozo6015




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 20:09    Post subject:
That's a new one. I've downloaded an English version of Gothic3 I've uninstalled the old version with all it's features. I mount the mds file in Virtual CD. The game starts but the menu is still in german. I've verified the english language pack and it is there as it supposed to be.


I haven't lost my mind. I know exactly where I left it.
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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 20:10    Post subject:
greymann wrote:
God, like we should have to choose one or the other. Shouldn't every game be polished before release? Sounds like the graphics verses gameplay arguement. Why not demand it all?

Sadly, it doesnt always work that way.
Some ppl who have the right ideas dont have the resources to execute it, like PB which is made up of 18-20 ppl...unlike Beth which has become a faceless money-making corporation.
Although there are a few games that have managed to get both gameplay and graphics right but that rarely happend/happens in the rpg genre....
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 20:32    Post subject:
accountbroken wrote:
Mister_s wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
Check out this review, it's 100% accurate in my opinion.

http://www.honestgamers.com/systems/content.php?console_id=13&review_id=5166&game_id=22368

O come on. How is that accurate if no mention is made of the bugs. I'm sure the game is worth 9/10 after patches, but it's not even worth a 7 at this point.

I advise again to everyone who's trying to get this to work, just wait for the US version. It'll be Securom and hopefully complete. Don't ruin the game by playing the beta. Just be patient.


Hey Mister_s, here at nforce as well Wink U'd better wait if ur penis grows 'cause the USA release won't have securom. Wishfull thinking Rolling Eyes Play the game like this or u won't be able to play it for a loooong time 'cause razor and rld ain't working on this one atm. Just grab it from the usenet as normally Laughing

I bought the game, so no other option than waiting for patches. I'm everywhere Very Happy
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Rintin




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 20:56    Post subject:
Hey guys i can help you run this relese every time 100%.

Sorry for bad english i dont know this language only i whant help you :>.

1.Download demo! virtual cd v8.0.0.4
2.Mount image to cd drive one of three! start game when is fail eject image from this virtual drive
3.Then put image to virtual drive who stand alone (first of four drives) check perefernces this dirve you see your real drive put on you real drive some disk(not empty) close drive and run gothic 3.When you system hang (i have sometmise this problem) dont put any cd only eject you real drive and start game.

This method works every time!! 100% tested Smile.

You can translate this text on real english when you try my trick Smile.
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Fiddle
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 20:57    Post subject:
question

how do I finnish someone after they fall down? they just keep getting up after a whole? Whats the key combo for this move?
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 21:00    Post subject:
Fiddle wrote:
question

how do I finnish someone after they fall down? they just keep getting up after a whole? Whats the key combo for this move?


DynaQuest wrote:
iconized wrote:
Hfric wrote:
and one thing that pissed me alot was the killing blow that you must give your enemy to kill him , in the gothic 1 and 2 this was easy but now ...damn its imposible to make it... RMB then LMB and move down ... and with some luck you kill him , thats why i recomend to anyone to FIND A POISON sword NO more killing strike Very Happy


Hmmz i don't get this. How should i make a killing blow?


Let ya girlfriend make a killing blow ... Very Happy

Laughing Very Happy its a figure of speech , when your enemy is on the ground and has no energy , select him by pressing and holding the RightMouseButton and then Press and hold the LeftMouseButton and move your mouse down - the your hero should finaly kill him by stabbing him with the sword


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Fiddle
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 21:03    Post subject:
thx mate
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Dunge




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 21:10    Post subject:
I ain't got the game yet, I though I would do anything to get it working on the first release but not now. After reading this thread: http://forum.jowood.com/showthread.php?t=125079 I realized it's quite bad, bugs that even AnimalMother can't deny. Not only the boars thing but also armor ineffectiveness, save game corruption, memory leaks, path finding, unfinishable quests, burning sword making the whole character burn when in the back, and much more.

Now my opinion is I'll wait for a proper english US release instead of trying to play with german speech and english text, and by this time let's hope a good patch is out.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 21:20    Post subject:
Dunge wrote:
I ain't got the game yet, I though I would do anything to get it working on the first release but not now. After reading this thread: http://forum.jowood.com/showthread.php?t=125079 I realized it's quite bad, bugs that even AnimalMother can't deny. Not only the boars thing but also armor ineffectiveness, save game corruption, memory leaks, path finding, unfinishable quests, burning sword making the whole character burn when in the back, and much more.

Now my opinion is I'll wait for a proper english US release instead of trying to play with german speech and english text, and by this time let's hope a good patch is out.

Read the buglisting thread, that'll make you happy.
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 21:27    Post subject:
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=142669
That's from the German Forum. Now that's not me being a whiner that's just a lot of bugs.


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steren




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 21:28    Post subject:
Can anyone post another savegame,preferably one used with the english version?
I installed tha gema with the english vers and it says unknown date.I can`t start the game with new game so a savegame is my only shot.Please post!
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zozo6015




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 21:36    Post subject:
steren wrote:
Can anyone post another savegame,preferably one used with the english version?
I installed tha gema with the english vers and it says unknown date.I can`t start the game with new game so a savegame is my only shot.Please post!


I am using the savegame from the first page with the english version and it work just fine.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 21:36    Post subject:
Dunge wrote:
I ain't got the game yet, I though I would do anything to get it working on the first release but not now. After reading this thread: http://forum.jowood.com/showthread.php?t=125079 I realized it's quite bad, bugs that even AnimalMother can't deny. Not only the boars thing but also armor ineffectiveness, save game corruption, memory leaks, path finding, unfinishable quests, burning sword making the whole character burn when in the back, and much more.

Now my opinion is I'll wait for a proper english US release instead of trying to play with german speech and english text, and by this time let's hope a good patch is out.


Armor is percentage based, the guy who has spread the idea that it's bugged is retarded. He thinks that armor directly subtracts damage, i.e. If you have armor on that has a value of 40 and a boar hits you for 50 damage you should only take 10 damage. In fact 40 armor only reduces damage by 20 percent, so for a 50 damage hit you would still take 40 damage. Only that guy is too much of idiot to realise that and so he claims it's bugged. Other people who haven't even tested it just jump on the bashing bandwagon.

The other things have only affected a small percentage of people, but of course those are the people who are going to immediately seek out the forum to complain. So it looks bad if you read the forum. I've not noticed any other bugs apart from those that I mentioned.

I would tell you to try it and see, but to be honest I don't give a shit if one more person decides not to download the warez version, so i'm pretty much done defending it on these forums. You're missing out, it's as simple as that.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Oct 2006 22:12    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:

Armor is percentage based, the guy who has spread the idea that it's bugged is retarded. He thinks that armor directly subtracts damage, i.e. If you have armor on that has a value of 40 and a boar hits you for 50 damage you should only take 10 damage. In fact 40 armor only reduces damage by 20 percent, so for a 50 damage hit you would still take 40 damage. Only that guy is too much of idiot to realise that and so he claims it's bugged. Other people who haven't even tested it just jump on the bashing bandwagon.

The other things have only affected a small percentage of people, but of course those are the people who are going to immediately seek out the forum to complain. So it looks bad if you read the forum. I've not noticed any other bugs apart from those that I mentioned.

I would tell you to try it and see, but to be honest I don't give a shit if one more person decides not to download the warez version, so i'm pretty much done defending it on these forums. You're missing out, it's as simple as that.

I don't understand. Either you're very lucky and got a different version or you should put down your fanboy glasses. The difference between crap armor and expensive armor is almost nothing. You could just wear your t-shirt instead of you're uber armor without much difference. And how can you say the other problems have affected a small percentage of gamers? These are not random bugs. Most of the gameplay bugs can be reproduced. There's definately something wrong with the game. The good story and atmosphere doesn't save it.
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