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Buddymander
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 20:41    Post subject:
Thank you JBeckman.

Can anyone else make a mini review, it would be nice.


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LarzNFO




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 20:47    Post subject:
Anybody try to install the 1.1 patch of this game yet?
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Bart1983




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 20:48    Post subject:
LarzNFO wrote:
Anybody try to install the 1.1 patch of this game yet?


I have installed it on the german version and run it with the ston3d clone. No problems!
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Civiloid




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 20:51    Post subject:
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Anybody try to install the 1.1 patch of this game yet?

By default you have version 1.4
After patch - 1.7

If you'll launch it in windowed mode you'll see it.
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 20:54    Post subject:
EDIT: Moved this to the Tech Section.




Last edited by CaptainCox on Mon, 16th Oct 2006 21:06; edited 2 times in total
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zozo6015




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 21:01    Post subject:
anyone tried to start a new game after instalation of the patch?


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Bart1983




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 21:03    Post subject:
zozo6015 wrote:
anyone tried to start a new game after instalation of the patch?


yes doesn't work !
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Radamez




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 21:05    Post subject:
What I posted earlier:

1) Mount on virtual drive, wait for autorun popup. Click play. Let check fail
2) Remount on physical drive, wait for autorun. Click play. And it should work.

(For English version with Ston3d image, load via desktop shortcut instead of autorun for step 2)
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zozo6015




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 21:07    Post subject:
Radamez wrote:
What I posted earlier:

1) Mount on virtual drive, wait for autorun popup. Click play. Let check fail
2) Remount on physical drive, wait for autorun. Click play. And it should work.


allready tried that, cannot load the game. I've copied the savegame in C:\Documents and Settings\....\My Documents\gothic3

I see the savegame from the load windows but cannot load it
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Radamez




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 21:10    Post subject:
zozo6015 wrote:
Radamez wrote:
What I posted earlier:

1) Mount on virtual drive, wait for autorun popup. Click play. Let check fail
2) Remount on physical drive, wait for autorun. Click play. And it should work.


allready tried that, cannot load the game. I've copied the savegame in C:\Documents and Settings\....\My Documents\gothic3

I see the savegame from the load windows but cannot load it


That wasn't in response to your problem, sorry. Most likely your savegame version differs from your game version.
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 21:19    Post subject:
[quote="Radamez"]
zozo6015 wrote:
Radamez wrote:
What I posted earlier:

1) Mount on virtual drive, wait for autorun popup. Click play. Let check fail
2) Remount on physical drive, wait for autorun. Click play. And it should work.


allready tried that, cannot load the game. I've copied the savegame in C:\Documents and Settings\....\My Documents\gothic3

I see the savegame from the load windows but cannot load it

download the patch , and update your version then gothic will recognize your save

anyway game is great libereted now Wezel from the lighthouse and Killed all orcs ... 2 towns saved more too go Very Happy ... great game but the AI is so stupid Sad


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gold24




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 21:31    Post subject: who cares
well i can hardly wait for the us release:) im sure the game will be good but before that i think its time someone made a nEW TEMplate for never winter nights 2 which should blow the competion out of the water for all rpg this year
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 21:55    Post subject:
[quote="Hfric"]
Radamez wrote:
zozo6015 wrote:
Radamez wrote:
What I posted earlier:

1) Mount on virtual drive, wait for autorun popup. Click play. Let check fail
2) Remount on physical drive, wait for autorun. Click play. And it should work.


allready tried that, cannot load the game. I've copied the savegame in C:\Documents and Settings\....\My Documents\gothic3

I see the savegame from the load windows but cannot load it

download the patch , and update your version then gothic will recognize your save

anyway game is great libereted now Wezel from the lighthouse and Killed all orcs ... 2 towns saved more too go Very Happy ... great game but the AI is so stupid Sad


how boring Wink im killing all rebels hehehe
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 22:11    Post subject:
Anyway your hero can be a - orc Mercenery , Assasin , Acient Mage (a reall mage not that gay rune mage ) , Thief , Alchemist , Gladiator , Dragon Slayer , Necromancer ... and maybe more and now back to the game

@Epsilon
how much cache did you set up ?


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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 22:30    Post subject:
You have received an infraction at JoWooD Forum.

http://forum.jowood.com/showthread.php?p=1861692

Reason: Very inapropriate behaviour

Gothic 3 Slowdown/Very... 16-10-2006 10:12 16-04-2007 10:12 8 Very inapropriate behaviour Lacni


Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Customer getting treated like utter shit
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ManDark




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 23:25    Post subject:
Ok i got it working with the latest save postet here and with the help postet here.

The game Loooks WERY good even beter tham Oblivion, but the hell performance its a Real Sucker of RAM i have to Upgrade to 2 GB.

I have an Opteron 144 @ 2700MHz, 2 x 512MB, 7900GS and Oblivion Runs smooth like a wind, and this is Bad it slows down even stops in the whole game.
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 23:32    Post subject:
Well, been playing this for 2 H or so...feels like old Gothic...story wise that is, all good etc.
But the weird animations and the poor texture sort of drags the impression down I must say. Looks like Oblivion...the previous Oblivion that is, except for the surrounding which are beautiful .
Also the constant lag when stuff is loading is pretty annoying I must say. I think it don't matter what rig U run here, its simply not optimized yet.

Oh well, I guess the hype was not really worth the amount of hype we saw some days ago Wink , but I give this game some more hours before I throw in the towel.

Actually small thing. As I used the saved game files, I start directly in the village IN THE ORC FIGHT! after that I am told to seek the rebel leader....but no one says where. Did I miss something here? have been doing other stuff around the village to find a clue, but nothing.


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Hfric




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 23:41    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
Well, been playing this for 2 H or so...feels like old Gothic...story wise that is, all good etc.
But the weird animations and the poor texture sort of drags the impression down I must say. Looks like Oblivion...the previous Oblivion that is, except for the surrounding which are beautiful .
Also the constant lag when stuff is loading is pretty annoying I must say. I think it don't
matter what rig U run here, its simply not optimized yet.

Oh well, I guess the hype was not really worth the amount of hype we saw some days ago Wink , but I give this game some more hours before I throw in the towel.

Actually small thing. As I used the saved game files, I start directly in the village IN THE ORC FIGHT! after that I am told to seek the rebel leader....but no one says where. Did I miss something here? have been doing other stuff around the village to find a clue, but nothing.

talk to diego , then go to the beach house and talk to Laslo and the go back again to the villiage and talk to the other dude in your team ... forgot his name Razz
on and Cox you must tweak your game to look better becoz it still uses Pixelshader 2.0 and not 3.0 ... to tweak this game to look more HYPE Razz open ge3.ini in the \INI\ floder

Code:
VegetationAdmin.ViewRange=7000.0 ; war vorher 3500.0

Shader.CurrentShaderVersion=3_0 ; wird komischerweise nur auf 2_0 gestellt. Sieht mit 3_0 DEUTLICH besser aus     

ObjectDetails.fProcessingRangeFadeOutRange_High=500.0 ; vorher: 300.0
ObjectDetails.fRangedBaseLoDOffset_High=500.0 ; vorher: 300.0
ObjectDetails.fProcessingRangeFadeOutRange_Medium=600.0 ; vorher: 500.0

Wink


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acerola




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 23:57    Post subject:
Well, in case you guys don't know, if you edit ge3.ini and replace "German" with "English", the German stoned release becomes English.
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2006 00:00    Post subject:
acerola wrote:
Well, in case you guys don't know, if you edit ge3.ini and replace "German" with "English", the German stoned release becomes English.

wrong file dude its the UserOptions.ini in the Save floder Rolling Eyes
Code:
VoiceLanguage=German
SubtitleLanguage=English
Subtitle=true


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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2006 00:00    Post subject:
acerola wrote:
Well, in case you guys don't know, if you edit ge3.ini and replace "German" with "English", the German stoned release becomes English.


You mean text only? The speech remains in German?
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2006 00:00    Post subject:
Well im just walking arround and kill everybody who pases my way... Very Happy

Anybody knows, how to convert dialogue in to English language ?
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2006 00:01    Post subject:
KrutojPoc wrote:
acerola wrote:
Well, in case you guys don't know, if you edit ge3.ini and replace "German" with "English", the German stoned release becomes English.


You mean text only? The speech remains in German?

yup


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Untouchab1e




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2006 00:11    Post subject:
ive made it work now, built upon something i read earlier in this thread..

.:::::Untouchable's ultimate step-by-step guide for the Gothic.3.VCD8CLONE-ST0N3D release::::.
Part 1:

Step 1: Uninstall D-Tools\120% Alcohol if present (reboot if neccesary)
Step 2: Unpack the gothic3.rar image files
Step 3: Download and install the newest version of Virtual CD 8, get it here
Step 5: Go to my computer, Rightclick the newly created "Virtual DVD-RAM Drive" and click "Insert the selected Virtual CD, and browse and select GOTHIC3.vc6
Step 6: Install the game (no cdkey required)
Step 7: Reboot your computer
Step 8: Now, try starting the game, and wait for the "please insert cd\dvd" error to show, if your computer freezes, reboot and start again
Step 9: Go to my computer, rightclick the "Virtual DVD-RAM Drive" and click "Eject the virtual CD"
Step 10: Rightclick the Virtual CD tray icon, and click exit
Step 11: Go to my computer, right click one of your physical DVD Drives (hope you have one), and click ""Insert the selected Virtual CD", browse and select GOTHIC3.vc6.
Step 12: Try to start it.. This procedure has worked 2 out of 2 attempts, I just made sure i rebooted first.

Now, this may not be all neccesary, and may not even work for everyone. But i like to do a big routine that works instead of a small one that doesnt! So good luck people! Hope you make it work, and hope your german is solid. Actually, its a great way to learn german. Ive studied it for 5 years at school , and i understand mostly everything! Wonderfull way to study!

Note: That released update (get it from the official site, or via the update tool) is highly recommended, and the game still runs.

Part 2:

Now, if you cant start a new game (it just freezes for aprox 5 seconds), you need to fetch a savegame from the beginning of the game. Ive taken the liberty to make it available on my FTP server, however, its also linked to earlier in this thread and below... Download the files and place them in the following dir:
C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\gothic3
(user should be replaced by your windows username)

FTP login Info
user: gothic
pass: save
add: utb-ftp.myftp.org
port: 21

or download from here - links:
http://rapidshare.de/files/36891084/G3_World_01_0004.g3savdat
http://rapidshare.de/files/36891083/G3_World_01_0004.g3sav

Good luck! Just PM with questions or comments! Its a great game!


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acerola




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2006 00:13    Post subject:
Well, I don't know about speech because I didn't talk to anyone yet. BTW, how do I start a dialog?

But, the file is ge3.ini. In the end of it, we have:

; /////////////////////////////

; Supported Languages (voice and subtitle)
[Languages]

Voice.SupportedCount=1
Voice.Entry_0=English

Subtitle.SupportedCount=1
Subtitle.Entry_0=English
; /////////////////////////////

; Active Language (voice and subtitle)
[Language]
Text=English
Audio=English

So I guess it is speech and text. ge3.ini. Check it out.
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acerola




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2006 00:25    Post subject:
Well, speech is mute. So it is only text. But, so far, it is all text (interface, dialogs, everything).
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Weedo




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2006 00:27    Post subject:
Why does everyone think the US version will use Securom? I doubt it. It will be published by Aspyr and they already used Tages for Spellforce 2 and Paraworld, why should they choose something else now for a game that's already protected with Tages in the european version?
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2006 00:33    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
CaptainCox wrote:
Well, been playing this for 2 H or so...feels like old Gothic...story wise that is, all good etc.
But the weird animations and the poor texture sort of drags the impression down I must say. Looks like Oblivion...the previous Oblivion that is, except for the surrounding which are beautiful .
Also the constant lag when stuff is loading is pretty annoying I must say. I think it don't
matter what rig U run here, its simply not optimized yet.

Oh well, I guess the hype was not really worth the amount of hype we saw some days ago Wink , but I give this game some more hours before I throw in the towel.

Actually small thing. As I used the saved game files, I start directly in the village IN THE ORC FIGHT! after that I am told to seek the rebel leader....but no one says where. Did I miss something here? have been doing other stuff around the village to find a clue, but nothing.

talk to diego , then go to the beach house and talk to Laslo and the go back again to the villiage and talk to the other dude in your team ... forgot his name Razz
on and Cox you must tweak your game to look better becoz it still uses Pixelshader 2.0 and not 3.0 ... to tweak this game to look more HYPE Razz open ge3.ini in the \INI\ floder

Code:
VegetationAdmin.ViewRange=7000.0 ; war vorher 3500.0

Shader.CurrentShaderVersion=3_0 ; wird komischerweise nur auf 2_0 gestellt. Sieht mit 3_0 DEUTLICH besser aus     

ObjectDetails.fProcessingRangeFadeOutRange_High=500.0 ; vorher: 300.0
ObjectDetails.fRangedBaseLoDOffset_High=500.0 ; vorher: 300.0
ObjectDetails.fProcessingRangeFadeOutRange_Medium=600.0 ; vorher: 500.0

Wink

Cheers man, looks a bit better I must say, still lagging etc etc, maybe a patch will help here. Running a 4000+, 7800GTX 512, 2Gram...not the best but not bad.

I think there are some really weird bugs in the actual story line. I had talked to all those guys and none wanted to talk to me the 1st time, loaded up my 2nd save and suddenly I could. The guy at the beach started talking...weird. Found the camp and are starting with alot of quests. Anyhow enjoying it...starting to get back the memories of Gothic 1 and 2, a lot of familiar names etc.


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Untouchab1e




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2006 00:33    Post subject:
acerola wrote:
Well, I don't know about speech because I didn't talk to anyone yet. BTW, how do I start a dialog?


Leftclick them!
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acerola




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Oct 2006 00:38    Post subject:
Untouchab1e wrote:
acerola wrote:
Well, I don't know about speech because I didn't talk to anyone yet. BTW, how do I start a dialog?


Leftclick them!


Thanks. Wink I left the initial battle and tried to talk to a guy Lester, but the dialog wouldn't start. After I finished the battle it worked.
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