Gothic 3
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Krest




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 05:32    Post subject:
Actually its not a big deal, i never said it was, i said it was annoying. Seeing as im not that far in the game, and only fought a few monsters, the boar was the only problem i had. Maybe further in the game there are enemies just as bugged as this one. And im not crying or bitching or anything, the gothic 3 is designed by a small company, who dont have enough man power to produce completly buggless game, so the Europe bacame the bug testers, hopefully they will iron out the us release Smile .


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blahblah121




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 05:34    Post subject:
How did you guys get it to work? I got the game to load but then it freezes when I try to start a new game. Also I tried using that english version save to get it to work but after I load it the screen is just half orange/white although I can see the hotkey bar at the bottom. I don't see how it could be a problem with my computer.
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segobi




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 06:10    Post subject:
where is epsilon Wink playing gothic3 ?
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 06:20    Post subject:
Krest wrote:
Actually its not a big deal, i never said it was, i said it was annoying. Seeing as im not that far in the game, and only fought a few monsters, the boar was the only problem i had. Maybe further in the game there are enemies just as bugged as this one. And im not crying or bitching or anything, the gothic 3 is designed by a small company, who dont have enough man power to produce completly buggless game, so the Europe bacame the bug testers, hopefully they will iron out the us release Smile .


I'm not that far either so i'm also hoping the same thing. It would be lame if a main quest boss is as glitched as the boars.

I expect once you are a fairly high level and have good equipment that the boars will cease to be a problem anyway.

Just imagine they're uber boars which have been magically enhanced or something. Works for me. Very Happy


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Krest




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 06:26    Post subject:
Lol good thing this is not oblivion where everything levels as you do, imagine having super gear and getting owned by a freaking boar. I too am afraid that one of the very hard monsters would be bugged. So without the bug its freaking hard to take him down, but image him attacking you 10 times in a second, and knocking you each time, or even breaking through your attacks.


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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 06:26    Post subject:
Quote:

How did you guys get it to work? I got the game to load but then it freezes when I try to start a new game. Also I tried using that english version save to get it to work but after I load it the screen is just half orange/white although I can see the hotkey bar at the bottom. I don't see how it could be a problem with my computer.


Some other people said this was due to another hidden cd-check and the game does access the cd towards the end of the loading screen - the solution seems to be to use a savegame and I uploaded one on page 1. (mirrored on rapidshare as well on page 2 or 3)
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rekof
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 06:30    Post subject:
reatiVE wrote:
GOTHIC 3 ENGLISH ***WORKING***

Just look at screen!

I install game from english rls and run game from Gothic.3.VCD8CLONE-ST0N3D GERMAN rls.

RUN GREAT!


so you just installed it like mds with daemon tools,.. and than emulated german image,.. and works :Smile) SmART !! WAY TO GO !!
ill play it like that !! At least til december,.. definitly buy it till then

Anyone tryed to make VC8 image out of english release,.. and than just v6 it ?
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Dunge




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 06:43    Post subject:
banned at his first post,.. I don't think he care

btw, what is the name of this english release you talk about? One of the previous "fake"? If I understood correctly, it install great, don't work, but work with german version mounted?
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segobi




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 06:49    Post subject:
Dunge wrote:
banned at his first post,.. I don't think he care

btw, what is the name of this english release you talk about? One of the previous "fake"? If I understood correctly, it install great, don't work, but work with german version mounted?


the vcd8 trick does not work with the german version in usenet - although its also an alcohol clone. For me the german caliban release worked with that trick as described in the german forum of the guys who found it out...
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Rabowke




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 07:44    Post subject:
the ston3d version IS the german version of gothic3. there was a "homemade" ( ind ) rls, but alc120% can't handle tagés. i read that the us version of gothic3 use securom v7, schouldn't be hard to clone or to ... .
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Razacka2




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 07:57    Post subject:
Are there high expectations on this game, i have only heard about the gothic series but i have never known if i should compare it with oblivion or not.
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Buddymander
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 08:19    Post subject:
Yes you should compare it with oblivion, gothic3 is up for the task!


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Rabowke




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 08:29    Post subject:
you shouldn't. gothic is more "realistic fantasy" ... sounds strange, i know. just take a look at the city / camps and compare them with the citys in oblivion, you will see it. i hope >.<

gothic 2 + addon >>> morrowind ... let's see if gothic 3 > oblivion Wink
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 09:12    Post subject:
Gothic 3 Soundtrack-Promo-CD-2006-XARDAS
Very Happy Includes making of! The same for bf2142 plz, rlz rlz =D


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Rabowke




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 09:28    Post subject:
< trash post ... my mistake >


Last edited by Rabowke on Mon, 16th Oct 2006 09:38; edited 1 time in total
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iMiKE




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 09:34    Post subject:
my post was wiped out from forum....
better this than ban Smile

but have anyone tried this crack? Its very interesting for me works or not or its a fake?
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g33b33




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 09:34    Post subject:
iMiKE wrote:
my post was wiped out from forum....
better this than ban Smile

but have anyone tried this crack? Its very interesting for me works or not or its a fake?



It is fake
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skidrow
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 09:37    Post subject:
it said a couple of times. Its fake.

now, drop the razor1911 nfo subject, because from now on they will be deleted.


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zozo6015




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 09:38    Post subject:
has actually someone managed to run this game in english installing from Gothic.3.VCD8CLONE-ST0N3D?


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iMiKE




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 09:44    Post subject:
skidrow wrote:
it said a couple of times. Its fake.

now, drop the razor1911 nfo subject, because from now on they will be deleted.

thanks for answer!
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 09:58    Post subject:
bleh its just the making of the soundtrack, bah


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Rudolph




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 10:14    Post subject:
I am from Germany, so I am interested in running this game in german. I don't want to fuck up my computer using these tools. So I'm going to wait for the US release with Securom 7 and download the german files as I have access to newsgroups. Smile (No showing off!)
I would recommend this method to my german fellas. Wink
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Rabowke




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 10:21    Post subject:
Try buying the game ... could help to "don't fuck up your computer using these tools".

Deutsch:
Das, was du vor hast, wird nicht funktionieren. Es würde mich wirklich wundern, wenn die .exe von der US Version, welche SR7 benutzt, mit der Deutschen Tagés Version kompatible wär. Möglich ist alles, aber ... *g* ... Ich teste heut mal das STON3D Release, VirtualCD ist genauso "gut" bzw. "schlecht" wie Alc120%, von daher ... was willste dir da zerschießen? Außerdem würde ich bei Gothic3 ein Clone immer vorziehen, wer weiß wieviele Patches noch kommen. Da kommen die doch mit dem "cracken" garnicht hinterher. *zwinker*
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BearishSun




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 10:56    Post subject:
rekof wrote:


Well I'm goingo to wait till it gets couple of patches and than buy it,..
I dont understand why nobody did not release english version,.. couse ive played with one of the oldest german images with VC8 rutine,.. Once i get it runing,.. when computer doesent hang itself,.. had to restart atleast 5 times,.. before i made it run,.. Gothic3 is quite stable,.. but could be far mor polished performance wise,.. And fighting is stupid, and unbalanced.. cose in one try I almost killed some reptile,.. and than run away to heal myself,.. he had maby 1/4 left,.. and when I came back to finish it off ,..he nailed me, totaly, and I died... then i retryed it 5 times,.. but now, I could not do any damage to it,..And the replaying part would be ok if it game loaded faster,..



Meni se isto uvijek zamrzne kad pokrenem, mislim da mi nesto nije u redu sa kompom. Ti kazes da ti se zamrzavalo i da su ju uspio pokrenut(Meni se zamrzne na kad se pojavi Gothic 3 riječi na ekranu)

English:
My comp hangs aswell when I run it, I think it's a hardware issue. You're saying you were getting hangs aswell and you managed to run it? (It normally hangs when words Gothic 3 appear on the screen)
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spajdr




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 11:08    Post subject:
Do you guys agree that some spells are made really cheap, fireball, ice spike, surely it could use more work, reminds me of some spell effects from 10 years old game. Some parts are nicely done, while others look really amateur. And crappy fps too Smile)
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 11:21    Post subject:
Regarding crashes and hangs/lockups.

How much memory do you have?

Alot of people, myself included get a "Out of memory" error after some time in the game and for me it usually happens when I try to save the game, probably destroyed about 20 saves so far. (Alt tab reveal that the Gothic3 virtual memory manager crashes)

I have 1GB of memory but the issue has happened on my 2GB machine and one person got the issue on his 3GB system.

I'm currently trying to solve it by experimenting with the cache values in the Ge3.ini but so far nothing has worked or just crashes the game faster.

Part of INI:

Code:

Cache.SizeImage=128000000
Cache.SizeMaterial=40000000
Cache.SizeMesh=70000000
Cache.SizeSound=80000000
Cache.SizeCollisionMesh=40000000
Cache.SizeAnimation=40000000
Cache.SizeSpeedTree=10000000
(Global cache options I think regardless of settings)


ResourceCache.u32ImageMaxMemUsage_TextureQualityHigh=350000000
(I seriously hope the above means 350 MB and not 3.5 GB)

ResourceCache.u32ImageMaxMemUsage_High=96000000
ResourceCache.u32MeshMaxMemUsage_High=96000000
ResourceCache.u32SoundMaxMemUsage_High=20000000
ResourceCache.u32MaterialMaxMemUsage_High=21000
ResourceCache.u32CollisionMeshMaxMemUsage_High=18000000
ResourceCache.u32AnimationMaxMemUsage_High=40000000
ResourceCache.u32SpeedTreeMaxMemUsage_High=100000
ResourceCache.u32ImageMaxMemUsage_Medium=70000000
ResourceCache.u32MeshMaxMemUsage_Medium=40000000
ResourceCache.u32SoundMaxMemUsage_Medium=15000000
ResourceCache.u32MaterialMaxMemUsage_Medium=20000
ResourceCache.u32CollisionMeshMaxMemUsage_Medium=16000000
ResourceCache.u32AnimationMaxMemUsage_Medium=30000000
ResourceCache.u32SpeedTreeMaxMemUsage_Medium=750000
ResourceCache.u32ImageMaxMemUsage_Low=32000000
ResourceCache.u32MeshMaxMemUsage_Low=30000000
ResourceCache.u32SoundMaxMemUsage_Low=10000000
ResourceCache.u32MaterialMaxMemUsage_Low=18000
ResourceCache.u32CollisionMeshMaxMemUsage_Low=13000000
ResourceCache.u32AnimationMaxMemUsage_Low=25000000
ResourceCache.u32SpeedTreeMaxMemUsage_Low=500000

(I don't know all of these commands but it's the amount of memory avaivible at different settings)



You can also lower or increase the view distance with these commands.

VegetationAdmin.ViewRange=3500.0
(Vegetation distance)

Camera.ZFar=10000.0
Camera.ZFarLowPoly=70000.0
(Draw distance for detailed and low detailed world)

Entity.ROI=4000.0
(NPC view and possibly ai distance)

Render.EnableDOF=true
Render.DOFStart=1000.0
Render.DOFEnd=8000.0
(If you use Depth of Field)

So far the best is to either double or halve them.
(Can seriously mess up the far away landscape and horizon with odd settings)

You can also enable the console by either typing Marvin or changing
TestMode=false to true.
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Gothicbear
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 11:23    Post subject:
I played Gothic 3 now! The world looks very nice but the distance view isn't the best! The performance is really ok! It just laggs every 30-60secs for 1-3seconds! But that's ok.....
What I don't like is the fighting system for now! I'm not a good gothicfighter Very Happy
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steren




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 11:39    Post subject:
Does anyone know what files are ruquired from the english rls for the voices to be in english.Rather than downing 7 gb,i`d want to snatch the voice files and put them in the german gothic folder.
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EagleSH




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 11:41    Post subject:
steren wrote:
Does anyone know what files are ruquired from the english rls for the voices to be in english.Rather than downing 7 gb,i`d want to snatch the voice files and put them in the german gothic folder.

Speech_English.pak
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Oct 2006 11:41    Post subject:
Speech_English.pak

Guess this version has Speech_Germam.pak instead and adding the english pak would probably work.

(Assuming you change the langauge settings in the INI file)

EDIT: I'm slow today.
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