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Cohen
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 Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 19:16 Post subject: extremes of porn. (disturbing warning!) |
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Hi.. im writing this partly for my masters degree.. and partly to discuss and find out peoples views and opinions. I have been an internet user for MANY years now as im sure so many of you guys have too. I have noticed just lately the large increase in pornogrophy over the years, its increased in quantity and became more diverse in its genres and types.
Sex and porn is all about taste, This i know full well and i will not criisise ANYONE or their views and tastes. I notice also that the ammount of NFO's posted for porn DVDs is huge and has a very large weekly update.
Anyway, more to the point i don't want to bore people. I came across an advert for "extreme and all new hardcore porn, Supercore!" on a random but well known site the other day, curiosity drew me in. It came to a site named ClubGape. Now this site takes porn to the ultimate extreme, women are treated literally as objects and holes for guys to tear apart and abuse. I find this type of pornogrophy incredibly hard to stomach, as its quite clear that the actresses are not enjoying themselves. If you wish to find the site yourself to have a look at the stuff im getting at, google for clubgape (one word).
Anyway. This site depicts serious degradation of women in its sickest possible form, one episode of the site is named "oh ****, my ass fell out". It showcases a girl being viciously penetrated with various objects and male actors, and even to the point of which her anus is petruding sorely out about 6 inches. She is clearly in pain as the sex continues, my question is this, how is this kind of stuff "tasteful" to anyone?
It is quite literally abuse. Just because a woman is being payed and willing to act out the scene, doesnt mean she should be used in this way. It sickens me that there are really no laws whatsoever preventing this. Such forms of porn are quite rightly illegal, such as rape, child porn etc. So why is seriously abusing a woman legal? Shes putting her health at risk also..
Its not just this site i mention, other sites such as MaxHardcore also show extreme abuse of women who are deliberately made out to look young or under-age.
So my question is this. Is this kind of porn acceptable?
I myself think its disgraceful..
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 19:30 Post subject: |
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If you think such sites are the most extreme then you are wrong. There are much more extreme sites. Also it isnt considered as rape since they are paid and agree on that.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 19:40 Post subject: |
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you are right. but one should remember, there wouldnt be this stuff is someone wouldnt watch it. i dont know about the actresses, but there might be ones who likes it? maybe? no?
would it be childish to think that no mature woman wouldnt sign up for this, if she wouldnt want?
but its not the website or internet, this stuff has always been out there. like in japan culture, female are generally liked to be in pain.
but you dont have to watch.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 19:46 Post subject: |
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We live in a sick world, or atleast some of the world is sick.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 19:51 Post subject: |
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What about midget and clown porn? That stuff always freaks me out.
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nerrd
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 20:27 Post subject: |
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I dont know about that anus falling out bit, but leave Max out of this. He's an old fucker and you should have more respect for elders. Besides, he's a valued member in the community.
But all joking aside, I think it's all up to the individuals involved. If you are a healthy, willing adult, you should be able to let your imagination go. Some things are definitely off limits, like animals, children, metally ill people, since none of them can make a rational decision.
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werdercanuck
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 20:28 Post subject: |
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my oppinion is, that the women in those movies/episodes agree voluntarily to that. im pretty sure they have to sign a 20 page contract or similar, in case something happens. they are grown ups, sure on some sites they look rather young, but nevertheless, they are old enough to decide wether to do it or not. and if they agree and want to get paid for these sort of things, its their choice, and nobody should really judge them for that. but i agree, imo its not tasteful nor 'arousing' in any way like good ol' basic porn  i cant even watch a normal porn movie with my wife if there is anal in any way included, it just sickens me. and nowadays its really difficult to find tasteful porn without anal, except those specialty movies that only have blowjobs....
long story short, imo it shouldnt be illgal, its their choice to do it, nobody forces them (i hope) and too many guys get off on that, so there will always be a market
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 20:53 Post subject: |
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I'm pretty much against porn. Mind, I'm not against producing and people watching it. I'm just against watching it personally on principle.
It degrades women by making them appear like objects, and degrades men by making them appear like sex crazed animals. (Which truly most of us are not, even though some claim we are to appear 'cool')
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 21:06 Post subject: |
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| nerrd wrote: | | I dont know about that anus falling out bit, but leave Max out of this. He's an old fucker and you should have more respect for elders. Besides, he's a valued member in the community.:twisted. |
holy crap! this guy is a perv!
| Quote: | In some of his films, usually only available to the European market, Hardcore urinates in the mouths of the actresses. Graphic anal sex predominates over vaginal intercourse in his films, and anal to oral activity is common. One unique feature of his films is a setup where he inserts a test tube-shaped cylinder in a woman's anus. A long plastic tube connects the cylinder to her mouth. Hardcore then urinates in the cylinder while the woman sucks the urine out into her mouth through the tube, or she simply siphons out Hardcore's ejaculation.
Other films involve deep throating and vomiting. The actresses vomit and sometimes collect it in a large glass bowl, sometimes visible throughout the scene. In some scenes, Hardcore draws lipstick across the face, vagina, or anus of the actress. Infrequenty, he or another actress slaps the face of an actress.
The plots of Hardcore's videos usually involve him deriding the young women, calling them sluts and whores, and often involves him "tricking" them into performing with the promise of a modeling contract or by playing to their vanity. He not only physically humiliates them, he (according to his characters) makes them revel in their worthlessness as people. He usually has the actresses refer to him as Mister.
Hardcore, who often appears wearing nothing but socks and his signature cowboy hat, is usually the only male actor in his films. The actresses who appear in his films often sport pigtails and almost always wear loud, garish clothes (meant to imply a child's idea of slutty clothing). Most of the sex scenes take place upon a bright yellow leather couch.
While widely seen as an outlaw and the 'unacceptable face of porn' within the industry, it is worth noting that Hardcore's trademark scenarios, dialogue and positions have redefined American pornography, bringing anal sex, anal gaping, spitting, gagging, drooling and the unabashed degradation of female performers into the mainstream. |
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Cohen
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 21:47 Post subject: |
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its for a psycology masters degree. Im studying the sexual appetite of humans, and next i am going to do some surveys. Maybe you guys will be willing to take part?
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 22:03 Post subject: |
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i dont want to be part of your films, mr Hardcore.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 22:30 Post subject: |
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nouseforaname
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Oct 2006 00:46 Post subject: |
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I dont care for porns that degrade women either.
I dont think normal porn is degrading. Its the womans choice and she's makin decent money.
I dont consider sex taboo.
But i do have a problem with video's that inflict undesired pain and or videos that clearly put the woman down.
There are some bang bros vids ive seen wear they treat the girls like complete whores and with so respect...impossible to get off to
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Oct 2006 00:51 Post subject: |
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nerrd
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Oct 2006 01:20 Post subject: |
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| numero wrote: | | i dont want to be part of your films, mr Hardcore. |
Thats too bad, im sure he would be attracted to that young pink flower of yours. *points at your aviator"
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Oct 2006 18:06 Post subject: |
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Well i think it disgraceful as well. But this is just my opineon, and i donot feel that i have the right to tell a girl she cannot do what ever she wants. These girls in these movies know well in advance of what they are being paid to do, and they still are lining up to do it. This porn isnt my cup of tea, but it obviously sells since these guys are still doing it right?
I have no right to tell a woman what she can and cant do as an adult. Freedom of choice is a value i would fight to the death over. Now, would i hunt down and kill they guy if say my dauther was in one of these films, %100 yes.
But should we impose laws to govern what consenting adults are allowed to do, %100 no.
I would never, ever watch or support these movie producers. And the thought of some things meantioned in your thread truly make me sick.
I may sound insensitive to these girls, but they have been told in advance what they are expected to do, and they decide to do it. So they are no being expolited; IMHO they are just whores, that will do anything for money, Filmed or not.
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Oct 2006 19:21 Post subject: |
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Perhaps having controlled extremes leads to a healthier society than if these extremes were banned outright. For some, watching fantasy acts as a venting mechanism and may prevent them carrying out these fetishes in real life.
Alternatively you could argue that these extreme acts lead to real life actions. There is some truth to this also as those caught doing illigal activities such as rape tend to also have related porn.
Personally, I think such porn should be allowed but not as widely spread and easy to find as it is becoming.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Oct 2006 15:32 Post subject: |
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Dude thats nothing compared to the porn those japanese peoplea are in to!! Oh and that wierd fetish thing i read about where asian women kill pets while getting naked.... a girl stomped on a little kittys head while wearing high heels then broke the kittys neck and got naked.....
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kumkss
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Oct 2006 17:48 Post subject: |
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well... overall are sick people. sexual depraved ones, and people who sees them as a good business.
there is nothing illigal about doing porn films in all of their genders, even the most deprvated and perverted ones.
alltrough, there may be turn illigal if for example, torture animals as JahLux describes... only for the matter about cruelty against animals, not for pervertion.
there are other issues regarding the ilegality of this activitys... for example, i have the strong feeling that many of the girls "used" on this kind of films, are not entire free willed there. they are somehow forced to do it, for example, they are illigal inmigrants in the country where the film is made, or they are forced to do it by some sort of coerssion, for example, by not paying them the promised money if they don't do some sick depravated stuff... and the girls have no chance to do otherwise, because, as they are illegal on that country, they can't go to the Laboral Justice for example.
other crime involved may be the so called "prostitution easyness", or "white treatement" that is involved with the traffic of human beeings for sexual purposes.
other crime involved may be drugs consumption, by forcing the girls to take them (thats the crime)...
ways to erradicate them?
by don't consume those sick films...
on the other hand, i've got no problems with a more traditional porn. there are many good movies, hot ones, good storys, such as the Pirates XXX one (most expensive porn movie made so far)  where the girls acting there are clearly free willded and enjoy themselves.
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