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 Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006 18:57 Post subject: |
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This whole topic is absurd. The Qur'an is about as relevent to scientific method as the bible.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006 20:17 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | This whole topic is absurd. The Qur'an is about as relevent to scientific method as the bible. |
But the Bible is the truth?!!!    |
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006 22:16 Post subject: |
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| swingman wrote: |
You reallly shouldn't use the common practices in those times to justify mohamed's behaviour if you consider him to be a prophet. I mean if a man cannot see the wrong in his own actions how can he preach to the masses. |
<thats where I stopped reading>
How can it be wrong if the rest of the society accepts it? Now, it is wrong. Then, it wasn't.
| WaldoJ wrote: | | In fact the whole foundation of the koran seems to be based on one morally corrupt individual who should be punished by laws (real ones) better than those laid down by himself. Where would we be if the criminals could lay down the law. Case in point is the stupid paedophile party in the Netherlands trying to legalize child-sex. Sick. |
Which laws? Of other cultures? That's like going to china and yelling at them for not being american or french. That's just idiotic. Each culture has their own set of laws and values. You cannot just go and tell them to accept your ‘perfect’ values because their values are silly.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006 23:25 Post subject: |
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Unless your awareness of things beyond your eyes can be used to make better decisions regarding the situations you find yourself in .. its a deviation from your own life .. feel free to gain awareness of things .. gain knowledge .. but remember you gained organically .. don’t expect to be able to share .. each of us finds out what we go looking for .. trying to make someone else be aware of what you are aware of is like trying to share a shooting star .. you have to accept it, its just for you ..
You want to share .. share your awareness .. not how you gained it .. because its yours .. only you see with it .. each of us has our own view . .some see with it .. some don’t . . meh
Honesty is the best policy IMO .. seems to me that way .. you more lightly to notice the truth when you perceive it ..
"Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in & out of favor." ~ Frost
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006 23:33 Post subject: |
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Truth is often scary 
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006 00:02 Post subject: |
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Someone said to me once .. "The truth burns & love is often severe" .. cheerful stuff ..
"Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in & out of favor." ~ Frost
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006 00:31 Post subject: |
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It's the kind of stuff that makes the bottle run dry rather quickly!
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006 04:53 Post subject: |
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| ChinUp wrote: | | Someone said to me once .. "The truth burns & love is often sever" .. cheerful stuff .. |
true tho.
Your a deep brotha eh chin?  |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006 05:51 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006 09:57 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Which laws? Of other cultures? That's like going to china and yelling at them for not being american or french. That's just idiotic. Each culture has their own set of laws and values. You cannot just go and tell them to accept your ‘perfect’ values because their values are silly. |
But Islam is an absolutist religion, not a relativist set of moral beliefs - if Mohammed said it was OK to fuck 9 year olds then, then it's OK to fuck 9 year olds now, since Allahs will doesn't change to account for differing cultural norms.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006 16:23 Post subject: |
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My point of religion is simple.
Religion is fine, as long as people only "use" it for them selves, to find strenght in trubled times or what not.
The second it goes beyond individuals it's no longer fine and should be forbidden, punisherble by death, yes death, not because I think believe in god is a horrible crime but there is no other way to stop religious people, jail or anything else wont change it.
As for my personal view on god(s)
There are no gods, what there are are imaginative figures of unending power that people who do not have enough faith in themselves can use as a crutch.
Life sucks ?, blame god
You need good grades ?, ask god
Truble ?, ask god
Things go bad ?, blame god
You do something stupid ? , blame god
You need a reason for an atrocity ?, God!
It's a way for people who wont or can't take responsibility for their own lives to put it on someone else.
And not just someone else like their father/mother/friend who can take the blame or be put to the test, no soem figure that noone can touch, bring to justice or question
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 14:06 Post subject: |
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was mohammad doing silly rabbit tricks?
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Oct 2006 17:10 Post subject: |
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Why the fuck did someone even bother to make a website about it.
It's so shitty I crapped my pants! The MOST vague sentence is used to describe a super specific scientific theory.
Geez, total and utter bullshit.
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." ~Berthold Auerbach
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Oct 2006 01:04 Post subject: |
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Religion is waaaay overrated meh
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Oct 2006 01:17 Post subject: |
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| JahLux wrote: | | Religion is waaaay overrated meh |
So is drug induced 'insightfulness'.
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Oct 2006 03:27 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | JahLux wrote: | | Religion is waaaay overrated meh |
So is drug induced 'insightfulness'. |
those highs are the greatest. Where all your doing is shit talking and coming up with shit that really doesnt make sense, but because everyone's fucked it does make sense....thats the greatest
Seriously tho, its fun to listen and watch stoned/drunk people go on about something they know jack shit about. I always take a few minutes when im partying to listen to the shit around me. Sometimes people come up with the most mind boggling shit
You should give it a try man, losen up. You can be both analytical and smart while being a fun person to party with |
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Oct 2006 04:42 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: |
So is drug induced 'insightfulness'. |
those highs are the greatest. Where all your doing is shit talking and coming up with shit that really doesnt make sense, but because everyone's fucked it does make sense....thats the greatest
Seriously tho, its fun to listen and watch stoned/drunk people go on about something they know jack shit about. I always take a few minutes when im partying to listen to the shit around me. Sometimes people come up with the most mind boggling shit
You should give it a try man, losen up. You can be both analytical and smart while being a fun person to party with |
Hey man I know. I love that too. If you're all on the same shit it seems everything everyone is saying makes perfect sense. It's just so funny if you take videos and watch them the next day and realise how retarded your conversations were.
What I don't like is when people think they what they experienced while under the influence of the drugs (or any other altered state of mind) actually applies to real life. It's almost always complete bollocks concocted by an overstimulated brain. But some people base their beliefs on it. That annoys me, i've had a couple of ex friends become almost incapable of functioning in normal society because they think they have some sort of 'special insight'.
I think when it comes to 'highs' you should just take them for what they are. A good night. Nothing more. |
I agree.
Aside from one or two good songs, nothing really productive ever came out of a nite of gettin stoned...well, aside from fun and pleasure. Its enough for me tho |
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Flexible value systems ftw.
They were wrong. And it took one really exceptional man to swim against the current to set things right. Wouldn't have happend if he had been a mindless part of the herd
