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| Posted: Wed, 25th Aug 2004 19:52 Post subject: |
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for people complainin about games not being realistic.
Im pretty sure u dont lag in real life..
Swat member 1 *Oh noes john lagged and fell off the ladder and got haxed!*
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Aug 2004 19:54 Post subject: |
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so they say.
remember this?
sept 30th 2003?
he shoots... HE SCORES!
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Aug 2004 20:15 Post subject: |
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mYslead
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 01:13 Post subject: |
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| Injurious wrote: | Half life 2 preload is useless! Half life 2 sux0rs. Css? Ooooh i know i know! It's AWESOME!
Half life 2 preload is useless (that's my starting line... this was meant as a reply to the hl2 thread but I went on and on and well it's a bitch post now I loves drugs!)
WRONG! IT'S ALL WRONG!
Half Life Two preload is important. Without it you would be forced to preload over two gigabytes the day half life two was released. Now think of this; three thousand (plus) people preloading over two gigabytes at the same time. Sure three thousand doesn't seem like a big number but the two gigabytes is. Servers would lag up. Counter-strike source was only three hundred and fifty seven megabytes (I’m guessing) and the day it came out their servers were busy seventy percent of the time. Now that doesn't seem right. Multiply the counter strike source file size by ten fold and preload it. Their servers wouldn't handle it. Now if they did enable the preload as promised people would download the two plus gigs of textures/audios/models etc over the span of three/four weeks and when the d-day pops up you would just have to download the engine and few files to be able to run the game.
The preload is not a stupid idea. But seeing the state of counter-strike source beta they can't be close to releasing a final product. Valve is good at breaking promises. It’s funny that people are giving valve the credit for counter-strike. A community based mod bought by valve only to see its day with upgraded graphics, shoddy net code and repetitive game that reintroduces us to the term “repetitive” when the most anticipated beta, of the most favored/highly played online game, comes with only one map. Valve does nothing for the community, for gods’ sake they bought counter strike. The day counter strike gained the valve logo the game went down hill. From reducing fun and inducing realism the game just went from great waste of time to just a mindless chore.
Counter-strike source isn’t fun anymore. They fucked it all up. They removed the realism counter-strike had, they reduced gun strength, reduced bullet piercing. Fuck when I played counter-strike you could easily stand in front of the enemy and fire endlessly until he/she was dead. In counter-strike source you stand in front of them they stand in front of you. You move to the left they move to the right but your gun is still aimed at them. So you hold the mouse button until the number indicating your ammunition turns to 0 and still none of the bullets hit the enemy in front of you.
A) From any experience any shot of the head from any gun would kill. In counter-strike source I have to shoot twice if not thrice to get a head shot even if their blood splattered against the wall.
B) Grenades: I’m not sure if this is true, I never played with live grenades, but unless the grenade falls one the ground, not in front of you, you would sustain some kind of damage. But if the grenade the falls right at your feet you would suffer a lot of damage which could actually kill you. In counter-strike source you need two grenades at your feet to kill you. (Realistic!)
C) De_Dust possesses several items that demonstrate physics of the source engine. But when the entire map is filled with useless rubbish and you see things that could easily move but they don’t alas a lot of disappointment. You see a stack of bricks that should/could move. But they don’t. You see barrels filled with sand type thing but you shoot them yet nothing pours out, the lids don’t open. Nothing! You just have barrels that block your way, buckets that force you off your track and useless cans that do nothing. Christ! Dust is the worst map to test the source engine. You have no reflection demonstrations, no true physics demos, nothing. Just a bunch of sand, barrels and for fucks sake cans that force people to waste ammunition just so they can move.
I remember back in the day (few weeks ago) I saw a video on gamespot/gamespy that detailed the online component in ways I’ve never heard before. You could block your opponents by blocking doorways. That got me interested. Now that’s one big thing sounds AWESOME! And you can’t do that in counter-strike source. You can’t even pick up the useless objects. Blocking opponents, blocking doorways? Ha! I laugh at that! If blocking a door means directing a barrel by shooting it towards the door then they have succeeded. But how many times can you do that and have it bite you back on your ass? Blocking door ways is impossible, half of the things valve promised, some of them I’ve forgotten, aren’t even here. I’d love to have a sneak peak at the final product. See how it’s filled with rubbish just so you can shoot objects and be amazed at valves way of creative interactive levels.
That’s what they meant by interactive. Filling a level with shit you can shoot and tip over! BRILLIANT! 
Hahaha none of it makes any sense! VALVE SUCKS!
I love writing while being sedated with narcotics. It's makes words float off the page. The more I write the more vaginal warts fly at my face! YAY!
It’s crunchy!
AND THAT’S MY SLOGAN! |
mmm you played the full version of Counter Strike : Source ?
WOW WHERE DID YOU GET IT
:rolleyes:
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 04:42 Post subject: |
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| mYslead wrote: |
mmm you played the full version of Counter Strike : Source ?
WOW WHERE DID YOU GET IT
:rolleyes: |
Christ! Darling I have sated that what is obvious in the beta. Stating such a profound insult toward my post by saying something has not been said and by speculating what has not yet been thought of. If anything your insult is laughable. I reckon you simply skimmed through the entire post and just focused your pupils at the faults in my lengthy yet “retarded” post.
Well dear sir I beg of you to reconsider that statement of yours. What I have stated is simply that counter-strike source will fall far behind from what you have thought/believed counter-strike is/was. Inaccurate rifles not due to anything but faulty hit boxes. Sky walking that can be fixed by either re-mapping the map or simply increasing the gravity, not a well thought of solution but the only one at the moment, the gravity one of course, but laughed at. We all know valve did not create counter-strike but we know that they hold in their vaults the very essence that is counter-strike. They will not remodel the maps and they will not do anything to please their public.
Anything of the sort that will put valve in the benches shall be considered a sin. Remodeling a map to remove sky walking? Well that's absurd why would anyone do that? It's not like the entire community frowns upon the entire idea of strolling through a map without being seen. Grenades should kill no matter how fast you die in the game. The laughable added content to each map should be removed and for fucks sake valve doesn’t want anyone meddling with the maps, because after all such a thing is indeed illegal! But aren’t illegal things fun? Isn’t it enjoyable when a thirteen year old virgin is locked in a cellar and every night she calls for her mommy as the elderly man quietly comforts her in the most unthinkable yet sickening manner?
Valve cannot and will not be treated with respect. Anyone to do is happens to be so far up valve’s ass that they are blinded by the glorious graphics of an outdated game. Read the forums on steam. One child, ONE CHILD! insults counter-strike source and this child is laughed at because css is a beta. Bugs that shouldn’t exist do exist. Faults that shouldn’t have been are. For Christ’s sake from playing the beta you can see how great the source engine really is. They have been working on counter-strike source for quite some time now (this has been stated and can and will be backed up if questioned) and you can see what they brought to the table. A used condom selling for the price of two, an aborted fetus promising to cure cancer and a worthless life thrown in the dungeon because he/she does not agree with the shit community that is counter-strike. Most importantly valve brought to the table a beta that is laughable.
I can’t wait till the final release is out. People will still play the original 1.6 when css is out. People will still play cs:cz when css is out. Valve made a mistake they re-moded a mod they never created. If you looked at the bug fixes in each update they simply removed the annoyance bugs but nothing major that should have been removed. They removed grenade jumping, they removed shake, orange box bug and many more but I haven’t seen them address the hit box issue and many other bugs that are obvious every time you play the beta.
What is valve?
Valve is a company that makes promises.
Valve is a company that breaks promises.
Valve is a company that denies the promises they have made and broken
Valve is a company that states that what they said was wrong, a misconception, and they apologize. Dearly!
Valve is a company that gives out a release date and delays it twenty four hours before it reaches the deadline.
What is valve?
Valve a bunch of lying fucks out to make a dollar and it’s despicable!
The end... the sugar rush ended and my head is spinning 
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hahe
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 05:39 Post subject: |
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| Injurious wrote: |
Grenades should kill no matter how fast you die in the game.
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Still dont agree with this, I have been playing Frag Op's alot lately, and in that game grenades insta kill if they nail you, but the difference is its harder to throw those grenades, if you press the throw button you must take the pin out then throw it, it requires that extra time to get it out of your hands, and you have a chance to die while doing this.
Now in CS, you just hold down the button, and you can hold onto the unpinned nade all you want, thats realistic because as long as you dont let go of the trigger it wont blow, but its not fair, because you can intsa throw them whenever you want, and if they did 100+ dmg, you could wipe out entire teams with just nades.
another thing about CS nades is that you can switch to another gun even after unpinning your nade, and it wont be used up at all, if your guys putting the pin back in he sure does it quickly.
Also I think your too caught up on this "valve has done a great injustice too me and I hate them" shit. Your forgetting the core factor here, this is their game, and they are making it for yours, and others entertainment. I think you need to just take a deep breath and calm down, because the game is comming out soon, and its nothing new to delay a game for a year.
From all the movies and CS:S gameplay and HL2 beta gameplay its obvious they have crafted a real gem of a game, instead of bashing on them all the time you need to either shut up and forget all about HL2, or have some respect for all the work they are putting into it, and wait patiently for its release.
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 14:44 Post subject: |
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EB games showing the release date as 1st of Novemeber, why the f*ck has it been delayed AGAIN!
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 15:08 Post subject: |
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| xxxMrGreenxxx wrote: | | EB games showing the release date as 1st of Novemeber, why the f*ck has it been delayed AGAIN! |
Look. Valve have only said one date (30th Sep 2003), they admitted that was an unrealistic deadline and have come clean.
NO OTHER OFFICIAL DATE HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED BY VALVE
Until you get official dates from valve, then it has not been delayed. Also for those people thinking that its going to suprisingly come out next week or whenever, think again. There has been very little advertising (unlike DOOM3 and its leadup) of Half-Life 2 beyond these forum posts. When you start seeing banners on every site and in every mag, THEN you know it will be coming out soon.
Sorry to break it to you people, but outside of the rumors that spread from one forum to another, nothing has been announced.
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 15:19 Post subject: |
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then they should keep their traps shut about the game reaching gold status, except a few bug fixes, they know they are getting the hopes up of many thousands of people who read such things, same with the preload bull#$%@, they announce it, but has it started yet?
I for sure wont buy the game anymore, I will warez it now, they can go and kiss their collective asses
greetz,
KrackHead
| AngryS wrote: | | xxxMrGreenxxx wrote: | | EB games showing the release date as 1st of Novemeber, why the f*ck has it been delayed AGAIN! |
Look. Valve have only said one date (30th Sep 2003), they admitted that was an unrealistic deadline and have come clean.
NO OTHER OFFICIAL DATE HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED BY VALVE
Until you get official dates from valve, then it has not been delayed. Also for those people thinking that its going to suprisingly come out next week or whenever, think again. There has been very little advertising (unlike DOOM3 and its leadup) of Half-Life 2 beyond these forum posts. When you start seeing banners on every site and in every mag, THEN you know it will be coming out soon.
Sorry to break it to you people, but outside of the rumors that spread from one forum to another, nothing has been announced. |
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 15:26 Post subject: |
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your inferior reasoning only shows your lack of comprehension when it comes to game development, krackhead
there are more honest reasons for warezing, it ll only make you look like a whiny kid. Perhaps you should consider buying this tshirt:
http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=312
Now for the good news. Valve is still on time to delay the game for a whole year like they did with halflife. Do you hear me mad max?
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 15:54 Post subject: |
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 16:21 Post subject: |
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hehehe, dissapointment doesnt come from the game developers but from your own expectations, krackhead
Just because they try to hype their product, doestn mean you have to fall for their advertisement tricks. And if you do adn get dissapointed then that s not a real reason, at least in my opinion, to not buy a product...
and yes, i too whine from time to time here. I guess i just searched for a victim so i could point out the glory of that t-shirt
And I still dont see honesty in not buying a game because the developers didnt meet your expectations before it even is released. Thats a good reason to not buy a game after it was released and it didnt match your expectations and i bet that you just dont want to shell out the money. But be that as it may, do what thou wilt
btw. I ll buy this one for sure...
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damnet
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 20:04 Post subject: |
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but the mods are gonna be the same gameplay, you will get bored
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 20:08 Post subject: |
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| HarryB wrote: | | but the mods are gonna be the same gameplay, you will get bored |
I wouldn't...
"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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hahe
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 21:03 Post subject: |
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when a game developer does not take the gamers serious, and even lies to them, aka code theft *cough* and a year pulls the same stunt almost also everybody buying a nice graphics card from ati with voucher that still wait for the game(and have to buy a new card), getting hopes up, for me it is a reason not to buy it, not because I do not have the money
I buy games I like and half life 2 seems a fine game to me, but I have had enough with Valve, Duke Nukem Forever I will not buy either for the same reason
Greetz,
KrackHead
| Lutzifer wrote: | hehehe, dissapointment doesnt come from the game developers but from your own expectations, krackhead
Just because they try to hype their product, doestn mean you have to fall for their advertisement tricks. And if you do adn get dissapointed then that s not a real reason, at least in my opinion, to not buy a product...
and yes, i too whine from time to time here. I guess i just searched for a victim so i could point out the glory of that t-shirt
And I still dont see honesty in not buying a game because the developers didnt meet your expectations before it even is released. Thats a good reason to not buy a game after it was released and it didnt match your expectations and i bet that you just dont want to shell out the money. But be that as it may, do what thou wilt
btw. I ll buy this one for sure... |
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hahe
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 21:05 Post subject: |
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Uhhhh didn't they arrest the people that did the code theft? So if they're lying about the code theft so what did they do? Arrest innocent people?
Also about the buy a new video card thing. I bought a new one a year ago for HL2. Even though HL2 got delayed I'm still very happy that I bought it. I had a Geforce 2 GTS so with that I wouldn't be able to play games like Far Cry, BF NAM, and Doom 3.
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 21:06 Post subject: |
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everybody knows about the code theft, and sure it was real but not the reason for the enormous delay
| hahe wrote: | | Uhhhh didn't they arrest the people that did the code theft? So if they're lying about the code theft so what did they do? Arrest innocent people? |
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004 01:30 Post subject: |
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make that 6 months, hehehehe
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004 01:36 Post subject: |
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hahaha, no
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004 01:38 Post subject: |
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what is preload is this the full game or what ?
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004 01:48 Post subject: |
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no, just the non-changing parts, see four posts above of yours
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that is untill the game really comes out 
