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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 00:20    Post subject:
How do you run the stress test?


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 01:05    Post subject:
default wrote:
Any updated benchmarks with the 6800ultra vs x800 platinum? Last one I saw the 6800 ultra slightly had an edge, but that was the beta. Kind of funny if the 6800's end up being faster after ATI had put so much hopes on the X800s performance in HL2.


Not sure where you got that from. The X800XT owns the 6800 Ultra in HL2.
This is using the offical stress test.



Similar to Nvidia in Doom 3.


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 07:03    Post subject:
Dunno if this Article have been posted before:

http://www.whutdufuk.com/?post=632287876827187500


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 07:24    Post subject: it´s tuesday...
I hate valve. These incompetent bastards couldnt make it in time...i knew it. But i'm just wondering... Why the hell do they say preloading will start monday ??? Why don't they just say it will be delayed??
Why making promises and then break them...

This is just stupid...

I think i´m gonna sell that fuckin coupon at ebay...
Just decided, I' m not gonna pay for halflife2

From now on:

PROUD TO BE WAREZING HL2

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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 08:12    Post subject: Re: it´s tuesday...
weird0 wrote:

I think i´m gonna sell that fuckin coupon at ebay...
Just decided, I' m not gonna pay for halflife2


....uhhh you weren't paying for HL2. You were getting it for free with that coupon.

And they haven't really made any promises. They just say when they think they're gonna be done with it.

I'm a HUGE fan of HL and I'm not mad at Valve at all. I don't care if it gets delayed another year. I'm still buying it. The less bugs the better.

And I'll say PROUD TO BE BUYING HL2
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 10:12    Post subject:
so..still no preload? man this is sucks!!!Sad
the game is ready and we all know it so i just think that after all the shit we eat from valve its time to release the fucking game.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 11:45    Post subject:
i bought doom3 and i will buy hl2 although i m pretty bancrupt at the moment...
what i cant understand is all the fuzz about which game is better as there can be no true answer to that as it solely depends on personal taste.
The only thing worth mentioning would be that id at least have a secure network at their headquaters and that they dont have an eating disorder like some competitors and they didnt fuck over their fans with a coupon thingy while they must have known that they wouldnt make it in time...
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 12:02    Post subject: Re: it´s tuesday...
weird0 wrote:
I hate valve. These incompetent bastards couldnt make it in time...i knew it. But i'm just wondering... Why the hell do they say preloading will start monday ??? Why don't they just say it will be delayed??
Why making promises and then break them...

This is just stupid...

I think i´m gonna sell that fuckin coupon at ebay...
Just decided, I' m not gonna pay for halflife2

From now on:

PROUD TO BE WAREZING HL2

Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 12:11    Post subject:
Those who bought a radeon with the coupon for free halflife 2.. um isn't that offer to be done still? Can't they be sued for giving out false information or false advertisement? Because if it comes out and I do not get my free copy of it when i have my coupon,etc. I will sure as hell be mad......
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 12:51    Post subject:
ah nice new moviez, will download asap, thanks

greetz KrackHead

Flark wrote:
http://www.gamershell.com/download_6806.shtml

http://www.gamershell.com/download_6807.shtml
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 13:36    Post subject:
lol why do people say "I will warez this game cause valve delayed the game"

VERY VERY VERy few games are not delayed
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 13:52    Post subject:
its just another hypocritical reason like all the others. I warez games because i can and because i hate playtesting beta-ware and demos normally dont do the products justice. If i love a game i ll shell out the money for it, often even i played it through already, just because i want to give something back to the developers. But since most games suck, i dont really often buy one...
...people should be more aware of what they use as justifications for breaking copyrights and what are the true reasons, like shitty software for too high a price, shitty software for too high a price, crippled software that didnt get any decent testing so you have to wait for patches that sometimes never come, because people noticed the shittyness and brought the game right back, stupid distribution patterns, where one can grab an iso from the u.s. a month or more earlier and doesnt have to wait for a localized release (come on, its not so hard to coordinate releases worldwide, now is it? in cinema it works fine nowadays for the big productions, so go game-distributors go) and above all the missing price differentiation between good and bad games i.e. shitty software for too high a price.

and i hope steam will be a success for valve as that might be one of the good countermeasures against the worldwide release problems. w00t. But we have to wait and see, i guess valve can fuck that up too still.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 17:01    Post subject:
Preload

http://www.steampowered.com/marketing/hl2_preload/english.html


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 18:07    Post subject:
And I've seen that pre-load thing since I think last Wednesday.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 19:15    Post subject:
True. It's old. I'm also getting tired of Valve ******** us around. I know that a preload is not that important, but can't they just shut the **** up and stop promising things that they can't acheive. On the other hand the preload is a good sign that everything is on schedule and that the game may be close to gold, but now this doesn't look like that. I think many are pissed of right now of their lies.

And no HL2 was not free for those who bought an XT card from ATI. It's included in the price because ATI payed Valve a very big amount of money for it. It does not say it costs but it's like a hidden pricetag. That could be why the XT cards are so expensive when not acheiving so much performance over the pro cards.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 19:59    Post subject:
I got my coupon with my pro card so that doesn't make sense.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 20:45    Post subject:
Half life 2 preload is useless! Half life 2 sux0rs. Css? Ooooh i know i know! It's AWESOME!

Half life 2 preload is useless (that's my starting line... this was meant as a reply to the hl2 thread but I went on and on and well it's a bitch post now I loves drugs!)


WRONG! IT'S ALL WRONG!


Half Life Two preload is important. Without it you would be forced to preload over two gigabytes the day half life two was released. Now think of this; three thousand (plus) people preloading over two gigabytes at the same time. Sure three thousand doesn't seem like a big number but the two gigabytes is. Servers would lag up. Counter-strike source was only three hundred and fifty seven megabytes (I’m guessing) and the day it came out their servers were busy seventy percent of the time. Now that doesn't seem right. Multiply the counter strike source file size by ten fold and preload it. Their servers wouldn't handle it. Now if they did enable the preload as promised people would download the two plus gigs of textures/audios/models etc over the span of three/four weeks and when the d-day pops up you would just have to download the engine and few files to be able to run the game.

The preload is not a stupid idea. But seeing the state of counter-strike source beta they can't be close to releasing a final product. Valve is good at breaking promises. It’s funny that people are giving valve the credit for counter-strike. A community based mod bought by valve only to see its day with upgraded graphics, shoddy net code and repetitive game that reintroduces us to the term “repetitive” when the most anticipated beta, of the most favored/highly played online game, comes with only one map. Valve does nothing for the community, for gods’ sake they bought counter strike. The day counter strike gained the valve logo the game went down hill. From reducing fun and inducing realism the game just went from great waste of time to just a mindless chore.

Counter-strike source isn’t fun anymore. They fucked it all up. They removed the realism counter-strike had, they reduced gun strength, reduced bullet piercing. Fuck when I played counter-strike you could easily stand in front of the enemy and fire endlessly until he/she was dead. In counter-strike source you stand in front of them they stand in front of you. You move to the left they move to the right but your gun is still aimed at them. So you hold the mouse button until the number indicating your ammunition turns to 0 and still none of the bullets hit the enemy in front of you.

A) From any experience any shot of the head from any gun would kill. In counter-strike source I have to shoot twice if not thrice to get a head shot even if their blood splattered against the wall.

B) Grenades: I’m not sure if this is true, I never played with live grenades, but unless the grenade falls one the ground, not in front of you, you would sustain some kind of damage. But if the grenade the falls right at your feet you would suffer a lot of damage which could actually kill you. In counter-strike source you need two grenades at your feet to kill you. (Realistic!)

C) De_Dust possesses several items that demonstrate physics of the source engine. But when the entire map is filled with useless rubbish and you see things that could easily move but they don’t alas a lot of disappointment. You see a stack of bricks that should/could move. But they don’t. You see barrels filled with sand type thing but you shoot them yet nothing pours out, the lids don’t open. Nothing! You just have barrels that block your way, buckets that force you off your track and useless cans that do nothing. Christ! Dust is the worst map to test the source engine. You have no reflection demonstrations, no true physics demos, nothing. Just a bunch of sand, barrels and for fucks sake cans that force people to waste ammunition just so they can move.

I remember back in the day (few weeks ago) I saw a video on gamespot/gamespy that detailed the online component in ways I’ve never heard before. You could block your opponents by blocking doorways. That got me interested. Now that’s one big thing sounds AWESOME! And you can’t do that in counter-strike source. You can’t even pick up the useless objects. Blocking opponents, blocking doorways? Ha! I laugh at that! If blocking a door means directing a barrel by shooting it towards the door then they have succeeded. But how many times can you do that and have it bite you back on your ass? Blocking door ways is impossible, half of the things valve promised, some of them I’ve forgotten, aren’t even here. I’d love to have a sneak peak at the final product. See how it’s filled with rubbish just so you can shoot objects and be amazed at valves way of creative interactive levels.

Shocked

That’s what they meant by interactive. Filling a level with shit you can shoot and tip over! BRILLIANT! Razz

Hahaha none of it makes any sense! VALVE SUCKS!

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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 21:01    Post subject:
hey dryan...i didn't steal Rolling Eyes

to quote a famous director/write/actor aka QT: "It's an hommage"

to hahe:

I did pay for hl2 because i bought that coupon at ebay...

and to injurious:

You really like writing Laughing

...got to figure out how that quoting works, so i did it that way

please flame me Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 21:22    Post subject:
weird0 wrote:
to hahe:

I did pay for hl2 because i bought that coupon at ebay...



But really the thing I find funny is that you're selling it just because Valve isn't on time.
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Man, i aint getting this over steam Cool i want a good clean box for the sequel to my favourite game Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 21:26    Post subject:
Oh no they delayed the preload, I wont be able to fill my HD with something I cant play for weeks!

Seriously...get over it, they are going to preload before release, who cares WHEN, cause it makes no difference to you now does it, you cant play it regardless!

Injurious I like to use scout alot in CS and when I get a headshot, they die instantly, so dont know what your talking about there. If your using a automatic rifle it depends on the gun, oobviously an AK is going to insta kill, but some of those guns like the Defender might take two headshots...wow this game would sure be great if EVERY gun insta killed with headshot, cause you know how fun it is to die to those!

Grenades NEVER insta killed in CS, its been like that since as long as I can remember, and SHOULD be like that, I'm sure it would make so many players happy if they rush into the tunnel and BOOM 100 hp to 0 from one grenade...wait till next round cause your dead from something you couldnt avoid!
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2004 23:24    Post subject:
D4rkKnight wrote:

Grenades NEVER insta killed in CS, its been like that since as long as I can remember, and SHOULD be like that, I'm sure it would make so many players happy if they rush into the tunnel and BOOM 100 hp to 0 from one grenade...wait till next round cause your dead from something you couldnt avoid!


You already die quick in CS so yea it should be like that in CS. I find it funny at times though when I get killed by a nade. In like SOF2 I'll just be sitting there and a nade lands right in front of me. I'll just be like "Ah shi-" BOOM I'm dead. Heh I was playing BF: NAM the other day and I was in a room and I saw an object out of the corner of my eye. I was just like "Was that a nade?" BOOM, "Yep."
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2004 06:07    Post subject:
Injurious wrote:
So you hold the mouse button until the number indicating your ammunition turns to 0 and still none of the bullets hit the enemy in front of you.


man that's because you suck... you should NEVER hold the mouse button that's called spraying and that's what is different in CS from other games you really need to use burst fire since the recoil is more important (and realist). If you take a M4/AK and aim carefully one bullet in the head even if the guy is really really far it will kill him... but if he is just in front of you and spray all your bullets its pretty sure you won't kill him.

I agree for the nades though... and dust isn't a good map for this engine
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2004 12:37    Post subject:
I’m not talking in front of you as in 10 meters + I’m talking so close you can see them blink! But I’m sure the reality of me just starting to play counter strike has a lot to do with this. Though I have seen a lot of people complaining about this as well. More noobs? I think so too but it is quite sickening when the gun is pointed at them, the crosshair paints a big red X on their face and yet when you repeatedly fire the pistol you miss. (When the server lags up) Last night I played the test_speakers map and it was an 8 people constant frag fest. Now test_speakers is a small map but when you are in front of the enemy and fire slow or fast you still manage to miss. How/Why? Noob? Can't shoot? Maybe but it's still a bitch when you know a shot that should count doesn't. But what do I know? I just started playing counter-strike as if it were cocaine. I’m hooked *gulp*!
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2004 13:09    Post subject:
If your holding an M4 rifle and your standing 7ft. away from someone and hold the trigger, you would not miss (which i did in CSS). The M4 is very light and the recoil is almost nonexistant.

Plus that AK if far to accurate. The AK is the worst gun you could use for long distances. Not even big, heavy, trained army personel can cope with that recoil.
But still i fing myself sniping Counter Terrorists on the other side of the tunnel.

Plus i hate that you can aim behind a guy when hes running and shoot, and kill him. Even though i didnt ami at him.
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2004 14:59    Post subject:
"O noes!" to quote jbrow Razz Shocked

steam forum: Knuckles on 08-16-2004 wrote:

Man Valve, nice hitboxes...

http://www.myplayonline.net/css/1.jpg

http://www.myplayonline.net/css/2.jpg

http://www.myplayonline.net/css/3.jpg

If you don't believe these pictures go ingame on lan or when you get it on cz and type sv_cheats 1 and sv_showhitboxes 1 and put thridperson on.

Nice improvement vavle, things will register just as good as 1.6 =/

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He shoots... he SCORES!!

It’s old I know I’m sure it was fixed by now but boy o boy Razz just makes me laugh how great the beta was in it's prime Very Happy now it's just bleh Very Happy until further updates come I’ll stick to watching my pornographic cartoons Very Happy get it? Stick? HA! LOLZ!! And one day a big elephant jumped on the bouncy pig and we had pig sized elephant babies roaming the streets. oh the glory days of porno induced animal planet. Mmm and that's the way the cookie crumbles! but then who's going to eat it? I've never seen an uneaten cookie! WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO AHHHH! hahaha i'm going to go take my pills now
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2004 17:33    Post subject:
A few online shops now give November 2004 as a release date, I hope this isnt true:

Walmart (11/02/2004)
DVDEmpire (11/05/2004)

EBgames gives 09/01/2004 (which I do not believe, later in the month I think)
Bestbuy gives 11/5-11/10/2004 (closer to what I think)

my guess the end of september, but you can expect anything with Valve, they seem to push back everything they announce lately.

Greetz,

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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2004 18:15    Post subject:
well...i think september will bring some great stuff so we will have some funn even without hl2 or may i call him the late game Smile
anyway full spectrum wariors ,and one of the vietnam shooters(forgot witch) will come this sep and the call of duty addon will come this sep too and some others so...we will have good time i guess;)
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