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YourGod
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 01:26    Post subject:
Godlikez* wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
lol yourgod makes me lol. He MUST be American.


All Americans cant be as retarded as him if not.................god help us all Razz



Or muslim like you. Wink


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TheGame110011001
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 03:44    Post subject:
russia saved us. americans helped ... but it whas mostly russians..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

United States[52] 418,500
Soviet Union[48] 23,200,000


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YourGod
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 03:53    Post subject:
Ya, they fought the Japs. And Italians. And were supplied by America, and Stalin killed 20,000,000 before the war, and didn't care how many of his own people died.


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feyenoord4ever




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 04:36    Post subject:
CRA$HH110011001 wrote:
russia saved us. americans helped ... but it whas mostly russians..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

United States[52] 418,500
Soviet Union[48] 23,200,000


It happens when you send Russians to Berlin without a weapon... Razz
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Macknu




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 09:11    Post subject:
YourGod wrote:
There was more to WW2 than Germany, And USA supplied USSR and England and fought the Japs. And it wasn't our freaken WAR. Maybe US should have been neutral, like all the brave Sweds are now. Very Happy

And after WW1 USA wasn't ready to fight another war. But we still did. Wink


True, and there was more then usforces that fought the other countrys like japs. USA sold things during the war, they saw a big business oppertunity and they took it and thats not really helping, its just business. And it was your war as much as anyone elses, they wouldnt have stopped.
Sweden wouldnt even have hindered the naziforce so why even try and send lots of people to their death? If you know anything about ww2 then you maybe even now that sweden wasnt as neutral as you think.

And was other countrys ready? Probably not Wink


To numero: True we cant really know, but since the war was pretty much won when usa entered im sure we still would have won. We might have lost more or maybe less.
Im not saying usa didnt help, they were a part of the alliance as many others, but saying they saved our asses is just laughable, especially when i hear it in movie Laughing amd pity the other countrys that fough besida usa and get discredited like that.
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Stanni




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 09:24    Post subject:
The USA just didn't want the battleground on their own land. The Nazi's had to be stopped while they still could... Hitler was a threat for the whole world.
As I told before, I'm from Belgium, and that's exactly here where most men died and where you can see spoils of the two World wars everyday...
When Germany attacked us, we didn't stand a chance, they thought that they would conquer us in one day, but we managed to hold them back for two weeks.
Ofcourse we needed the "help" of the US, as much as we also needed help from the Russians, the British and the Canadians. (and more)
It's not fair that you guys want all the credit. In fact it was to save your own asses, and to make fine business. You're not the only ones who died in those wars...
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IpwnU
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 11:32    Post subject:
Saying '' damn+americans+prevented+hitler+from+killing+jews'' is the worst keystroke combination ever , i dont even think someone with a brain would type this shit. Jews are people too and they needed to be saved , no matter what they do now.

@for those who think all americans are as retarded as yourgod

''every generalization is wrong , including this one. ''
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oxyeL




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 11:47    Post subject:
We can't underestimate any country that fought this war. Every country has dead young soldiers who gave their life for the victory and shouldn't be forgotten.
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PistolWhip




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 14:18    Post subject:
@ YourGod

You must be joking, no one can be that fucking Retarded.
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Mutantius
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 14:20    Post subject:
PistolWhip wrote:
@ YourGod

You must be joking, no one can be that fucking Retarded.


Im afraid not, try visit world news sometimes Razz


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TheGame110011001
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 17:43    Post subject:
feyenoord4ever wrote:
CRA$HH110011001 wrote:
russia saved us. americans helped ... but it whas mostly russians..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

United States[52] 418,500
Soviet Union[48] 23,200,000


It happens when you send Russians to Berlin without a weapon... Razz


like you know anything of history? please.......... gayenoord dat niet eens van een amateur clupje kan winnen... plz


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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 17:46    Post subject:
Macknu wrote:
YourGod wrote:
There was more to WW2 than Germany, And USA supplied USSR and England and fought the Japs. And it wasn't our freaken WAR. Maybe US should have been neutral, like all the brave Sweds are now. :D

And after WW1 USA wasn't ready to fight another war. But we still did. :wink:


True, and there was more then usforces that fought the other countrys like japs. USA sold things during the war, they saw a big business oppertunity and they took it and thats not really helping, its just business. And it was your war as much as anyone elses, they wouldnt have stopped.
Sweden wouldnt even have hindered the naziforce so why even try and send lots of people to their death? If you know anything about ww2 then you maybe even now that sweden wasnt as neutral as you think.

And was other countrys ready? Probably not :wink:


To numero: True we cant really know, but since the war was pretty much won when usa entered im sure we still would have won. We might have lost more or maybe less.
Im not saying usa didnt help, they were a part of the alliance as many others, but saying they saved our asses is just laughable, especially when i hear it in movie :lol: amd pity the other countrys that fough besida usa and get discredited like that.


swedes were cowards during ww2. When soviet union attacked finland, with major force compared to finnish one. the finns wouldnt just stand there and wait, they fought and kept their independence. the only help swedes gave to finland was that they took some children and women for safety. Of course, finland had major help from nazis - without their help things might had end differently.

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Macknu




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 18:57    Post subject:
numero wrote:
Macknu wrote:
YourGod wrote:
There was more to WW2 than Germany, And USA supplied USSR and England and fought the Japs. And it wasn't our freaken WAR. Maybe US should have been neutral, like all the brave Sweds are now. Very Happy

And after WW1 USA wasn't ready to fight another war. But we still did. Wink


True, and there was more then usforces that fought the other countrys like japs. USA sold things during the war, they saw a big business oppertunity and they took it and thats not really helping, its just business. And it was your war as much as anyone elses, they wouldnt have stopped.
Sweden wouldnt even have hindered the naziforce so why even try and send lots of people to their death? If you know anything about ww2 then you maybe even now that sweden wasnt as neutral as you think.

And was other countrys ready? Probably not Wink


To numero: True we cant really know, but since the war was pretty much won when usa entered im sure we still would have won. We might have lost more or maybe less.
Im not saying usa didnt help, they were a part of the alliance as many others, but saying they saved our asses is just laughable, especially when i hear it in movie Laughing amd pity the other countrys that fough besida usa and get discredited like that.


swedes were cowards during ww2. When soviet union attacked finland, with major force compared to finnish one. the finns wouldnt just stand there and wait, they fought and kept their independence. the only help swedes gave to finland was that they took some children and women for safety. Of course, finland had major help from nazis - without their help things might had end differently.



Could be called cowards if you like (im not swede so not trying to defend my country or anything), but what military force do sweden have?
Instead of meeting nazis straight on and loosing thousands of lifes they stayed neutral and helped norwiegans and finns by taking many of them to security.
I wouldnt call it cowerdly for a small country with like 4million inhabitants (was something like that back then i think) cowards becouse they didnt fight against a force like nazis, they helped in only way they could and that by helping countrys like norway with taking lots of people to safety.
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 21:33    Post subject:
Macknu wrote:
numero wrote:
Macknu wrote:


True, and there was more then usforces that fought the other countrys like japs. USA sold things during the war, they saw a big business oppertunity and they took it and thats not really helping, its just business. And it was your war as much as anyone elses, they wouldnt have stopped.
Sweden wouldnt even have hindered the naziforce so why even try and send lots of people to their death? If you know anything about ww2 then you maybe even now that sweden wasnt as neutral as you think.

And was other countrys ready? Probably not :wink:


To numero: True we cant really know, but since the war was pretty much won when usa entered im sure we still would have won. We might have lost more or maybe less.
Im not saying usa didnt help, they were a part of the alliance as many others, but saying they saved our asses is just laughable, especially when i hear it in movie :lol: amd pity the other countrys that fough besida usa and get discredited like that.


swedes were cowards during ww2. When soviet union attacked finland, with major force compared to finnish one. the finns wouldnt just stand there and wait, they fought and kept their independence. the only help swedes gave to finland was that they took some children and women for safety. Of course, finland had major help from nazis - without their help things might had end differently.



Could be called cowards if you like (im not swede so not trying to defend my country or anything), but what military force do sweden have?
Instead of meeting nazis straight on and loosing thousands of lifes they stayed neutral and helped norwiegans and finns by taking many of them to security.
I wouldnt call it cowerdly for a small country with like 4million inhabitants (was something like that back then i think) cowards becouse they didnt fight against a force like nazis, they helped in only way they could and that by helping countrys like norway with taking lots of people to safety.


finland had 3.5 million people, soviet union 150 000 000 people. During continuation war, finland lost 66000 dead, soviet union 188000. The missing and wounded are not included. Small countries cannot decide to be neutral in world wars.
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Macknu




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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Jul 2006 22:02    Post subject:
numero wrote:
Macknu wrote:
numero wrote:


swedes were cowards during ww2. When soviet union attacked finland, with major force compared to finnish one. the finns wouldnt just stand there and wait, they fought and kept their independence. the only help swedes gave to finland was that they took some children and women for safety. Of course, finland had major help from nazis - without their help things might had end differently.



Could be called cowards if you like (im not swede so not trying to defend my country or anything), but what military force do sweden have?
Instead of meeting nazis straight on and loosing thousands of lifes they stayed neutral and helped norwiegans and finns by taking many of them to security.
I wouldnt call it cowerdly for a small country with like 4million inhabitants (was something like that back then i think) cowards becouse they didnt fight against a force like nazis, they helped in only way they could and that by helping countrys like norway with taking lots of people to safety.


finland had 3.5 million people, soviet union 150 000 000 people. During continuation war, finland lost 66000 dead, soviet union 188000. The missing and wounded are not included. Small countries cannot decide to be neutral in world wars.


Finland also has terrible terrain to defend from, which is the only reason it went so good for them. Sweden is a bit flat like a skinny girl.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006 08:39    Post subject:
Macknu wrote:
numero wrote:
Macknu wrote:


Could be called cowards if you like (im not swede so not trying to defend my country or anything), but what military force do sweden have?
Instead of meeting nazis straight on and loosing thousands of lifes they stayed neutral and helped norwiegans and finns by taking many of them to security.
I wouldnt call it cowerdly for a small country with like 4million inhabitants (was something like that back then i think) cowards becouse they didnt fight against a force like nazis, they helped in only way they could and that by helping countrys like norway with taking lots of people to safety.


finland had 3.5 million people, soviet union 150 000 000 people. During continuation war, finland lost 66000 dead, soviet union 188000. The missing and wounded are not included. Small countries cannot decide to be neutral in world wars.


Finland also has terrible terrain to defend from, which is the only reason it went so good for them. Sweden is a bit flat like a skinny girl.


what are you talking about, it is same kind of terrain. it was about the men. finland actually captured st.petersburg, which is in soviet unions land.

sweden denied to give ANY kind of armory help (supplying weapons etc.) and warned finland not to request any help from them, while soviet union attacked finland. looking at the facts of the war, i can honestly say sweden were cowards. you just dont let someone to walk to your country and conquer it, like denmark and norway.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006 16:04    Post subject:
WW2 was a joint effort...

Without American industry the Soviet Union would have fallen and europe would have been fucked

Without Soviet Union manpower ... europe was fucked.. and WW2 would have gone on for many many many years

America was big.... but WW2 turned it into a giant Razz

not *once* during the entire war did the the entire axis gdp go near the american GDP.. by the end of the war the american gdp was *MASSIVE* .... eg equal to the rest of the world combined
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006 16:18    Post subject:
actually, the plan for without soviet union, might have been sending the third bomb to somewhere in europe, for the nazis. i think united states actually planned using atombomb in europe. speaking of which, recent discovery shows that nazis also had plan and prints for abomb.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jul 2006 16:29    Post subject:
numero wrote:
actually, the plan for without soviet union, might have been sending the third bomb to somewhere in europe, for the nazis. i think united states actually planned using atombomb in europe. speaking of which, recent discovery shows that nazis also had plan and prints for abomb.


none of us really know what would happen... just remember germany would have been huge if the soviets had fallen...
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